Rassa Farlander Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 I guess Im just confused Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smunisto Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 So...if I install this and use it with Yargnit's custom tech tree...will it screw up KW? Like parts not showing etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhaosCorp Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 So...if I install this and use it with Yargnit's custom tech tree...will it screw up KW? Like parts not showing etc?and so it begins =P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smunisto Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Yeah, just like you have voiced your concerns in other threads...I share them completely.I want to use a custom tech tree(which as far as I understand still has just parts reorganized, nodes can't be created yet), with other mods.Does it work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhaosCorp Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 For now it should, since the mod has yet to support custom nodes, but thats a guess tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwaster Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 and so it begins =PThe avalanche has started, it is too late for the pebbles to vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtualgenius Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Why would you delete the stock parts when you know they update the versions isnt that just asking for a massive headache especially as it takes the mod guys a week or two to adjust there products if it has broken something major Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobhendly Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Should I get this or Novapunch2?I have FAR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NathanKell Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Both. And AIES. It's the only answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratzap Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Both. And AIES. It's the only answer. Indeed, install ALL the mods. Personally I like to mix NP, KW and AIES - they all have bits that are 'best of' for a particular role. Speaking of which, I wonder when AIES or Korda RTGs will come out for 0.22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthesis Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 (edited) Another vote for AIES and this. Both necessities in my book.EDIT: I downloaded from the front page link and, strangely, when installed don't have a tech tree. I assume I did something wrong, but just to check, are there further mods needed for that? Edited October 18, 2013 by Synthesis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaius Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 No mods needed at all for the tech tree, it's just part of the base game. You do need to be playing in career mode for it, though -- there's no tech tree in sandbox mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Why would you delete the stock parts when you know they update the versions isnt that just asking for a massive headache especially as it takes the mod guys a week or two to adjust there products if it has broken something majorI simply wait a few days until my favorites are up to date. No headaches on my side.I delete most of the stock parts for 3 main reasons:1. I don't use them, ever.2. More parts = more loading time.3. They clutter the parts catalog.What I keep is things like solar panels, batteries (although I prefer the AIES battery for being less cartoonish and smaller...), Pods and things like lights. The rest like all engines, all tanks, all airplane parts etc. go straight into the litter bin.No headaches at all.I wonder why some people struggle to see the point in that or even declare actions like this a "problem". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthesis Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 No mods needed at all for the tech tree, it's just part of the base game. You do need to be playing in career mode for it, though -- there's no tech tree in sandbox mode.I think I grabbed the old ZIP, I downloaded it again and it worked flawlessly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smunisto Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 So, I downloaded KW, installed it, no old versions etc., started a clean save specifically to avoid already unlocked node problems with the tech tree.Loaded Yargnit's tech tree in the beginning of the game...I don't see any KW Rocketry parts in the tree...and I have the 1.25m fuel tank, its short version and the smallest SRB showing up in my VAB, but greyed out, saying the famous "Part model requires an entry purchase in R&D". However I can't see any KW Rocketry parts under the tech tree nodes, and I have unlocked the first 5 or so.Seems like in the end custom tech trees and mods don't mix that well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovek Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 (edited) 2.5.4 seems to have goofed and reverted the engines to older versions. Still have emissives, but the thrust is all scaled back, such as the Griffon XX is back to 3800.....Edit: This is a problem with the "no auto-shrouds" config.... I went into it on a hunch and looked at the specs, sure enough, the Griffon XX is showing at 3800 vs the 4900 for the original with auto-shrouds Edited October 19, 2013 by Sovek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kickasskyle Posted October 19, 2013 Author Share Posted October 19, 2013 2.5.4 seems to have goofed and reverted the engines to older versions. Still have emissives, but the thrust is all scaled back, such as the Griffon XX is back to 3800.....I just went and checked both downloads and they're all fine and up to date. I have no idea how you have the GriffonXX at 3800 thrust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kickasskyle Posted October 19, 2013 Author Share Posted October 19, 2013 2.5.4 seems to have goofed and reverted the engines to older versions. Still have emissives, but the thrust is all scaled back, such as the Griffon XX is back to 3800.....Edit: This is a problem with the "no auto-shrouds" config.... I went into it on a hunch and looked at the specs, sure enough, the Griffon XX is showing at 3800 vs the 4900 for the original with auto-shroudsHmm, I did change those, but I guess I might have reverted them by accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovek Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Hmm, I did change those, but I guess I might have reverted them by accident.You did on the earlier version as I had modified my apollo replica and found that four Maverick 5s were simply too much thrust for the first stage, and the Griffon XX was just enough. However, when I updated to 2.5.4 (was using the no-auto-shrouds for both) my rocket barely seem to make it off the pad. Perplexed I went back to the VAB and noticed the older thrust values on the engines, including the Maverick 5.Also, couple of suggestions. The grey pancakes really kinda take away from the looks of rockets and don't fit with the rest of the aesthetics of the other parts. Would be nice if they were white/black like the rest of the parts. Saddly I'm not a graphic designer so I really don't want to touch them. Also, the Ullage motors are used for stage sep correct? If so, dont you think they look a tad more powerful than they do? and possibly a little more thrust and fuel to go with it, specially when dealing with heavy stages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhaosCorp Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Umm wow...sure would like to see the kinda stage where a few ullage motors are not enough...those things are beast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasmic Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 I wonder why some people struggle to see the point in that or even declare actions like this a "problem".You know, you've just said that people are stupid if they don't see things your way. You might not have intended to do it, but many people could easily get offended by that line.I generally use the stock parts along with mod parts - I kinda like to have different styles to choose from, and the stock wings beat the B9 wings by far for small delta-wings. But if you don't use them, I don't see why you shouldn't delete them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhaosCorp Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Until KSP becomes 64bit I fully condone deleting any and every part you dont use...stock or not. With such limited space why waste it on stuff that just gathers dust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovek Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Umm wow...sure would like to see the kinda stage where a few ullage motors are not enough...those things are beast!say about 160t of rocket? and that's actually half the weight of the rocket right there in the second and third stages... but my main concern is making them actually look like they are doing something, not glorified sepetrons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhaosCorp Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 But ullage motors are glorified seperatrons....and you can drop more weight reliably with seps than 160tons. 160Tons is not even that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kickasskyle Posted October 20, 2013 Author Share Posted October 20, 2013 You did on the earlier version as I had modified my apollo replica and found that four Maverick 5s were simply too much thrust for the first stage, and the Griffon XX was just enough. However, when I updated to 2.5.4 (was using the no-auto-shrouds for both) my rocket barely seem to make it off the pad. Perplexed I went back to the VAB and noticed the older thrust values on the engines, including the Maverick 5.I'll go fix the config oversight soon enough. If you want to have the correct stats you can just load up the autoshrouded configs go through the engine files and delete the module jettison part from it assuming you're confident enough with that sort of thing.Also, couple of suggestions. The grey pancakes really kinda take away from the looks of rockets and don't fit with the rest of the aesthetics of the other parts. Would be nice if they were white/black like the rest of the parts. Saddly I'm not a graphic designer so I really don't want to touch them. Also, the Ullage motors are used for stage sep correct? If so, dont you think they look a tad more powerful than they do? and possibly a little more thrust and fuel to go with it, specially when dealing with heavy stages.The grey tanks are made more for upperstage/space based ventures so I'm inclined to leave them as is. That said I might look into making some more standardized smaller tanks.Also, the Ullage motors are used for stage sep correct? If so, dont you think they look a tad more powerful than they do? and possibly a little more thrust and fuel to go with it, specially when dealing with heavy stages.Pretty much this:But ullage motors are glorified seperatrons..They're designed to be a touch more powerful and longer lasting, while being sleeker and sexier seperatrons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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