[PLUGIN][ALPHA-10] City Lights and Clouds on Kerbin/Others

[rbray89]

I did not delete the last build I had installed (7) and now my clouds are all flickering:

Btw if its a bug, dont eliminate it fully, adapt it and throw some lightning textures on em instead

hmmm... I would try deleting the old build. If not, was there anything else you did you recreate this?

[rbray89]

Ok, created a new release... I think it should fix at least the flicker issues.

[Lucchese]

hmmm... I would try deleting the old build. If not, was there anything else you did you recreate this?

So I just removed the BoulderCo folder and extracted it again, still the same problem.

I did not do anything else, I installed the mod, went ingame, built a small rocket and launched it.

Edit: oh!

Remove old, then install new or...?

Also, could you please name your archive something else then GameData (ie BoulderCo) so I can identify whats in it in the future

Edited October 29, 2013 by Lucchese

[Tw1]

Could you provide some info on what you did to re-create this? Did you alter the config? Lack's changes are built into this build.

Turns out I somehow had a second gamedata file inside the first one, that possibly was the cause of problems both with this, and ioncross life support. All is functioning normally, and looking wonderful.

Question. If I was to put the city light details texture into GIMP, make the lines a little more squiggly, is there any chance that could cause a bug?

Edit: Actually, I spotted a seem kind of seem thing happening on kerbin, not unlike what Lack's experiments with Eve were having, but much fainter.

Edited October 29, 2013 by Tw1

[Lucchese]

Turns out I somehow had a second gamedata file inside the first one, that possibly was the cause of problems both with this, and ioncross life support. All is functioning normally.

Question. If I was to put the city light details texture into GIMP, make the lines a little more squiggly, is there any chance that could cause a bug?

I'd love them to be HD too, so I can use it with real solar system mod too (same goes for the clouds)

Is that something you could do?

[Lucchese]

Ok, created a new release... I think it should fix at least the flicker issues.

Now I dont have any clouds on the launchpad.

I do see clouds from orbit though.

Also, when I pressed revert to launch just now I ended up launching from the grass:

Reverting again makes me spawn on that location again, going back to VAB and then launching again fixes the location.

[ymir9]

The new Kerbin clouds look beautiful, and Eve looks a lot smoother!

[MOARdV]

Ok, created a new release... I think it should fix at least the flicker issues.

Yep, that fixed the flicker. The periodic hiccup I see in KSP (every couple of seconds) seems less pronounced, too (although maybe that's because the city lights aren't flickering). Looks good on the ground, looks good on orbit. A couple of minor tweaks I did locally: I converted the images all to TGA (to get mipmaps generated). I converted the cloud maps for Kerbin to a 2048x1024 and a 1024x1024, since I read somewhere around these forums that non-power 2 textures get pushed up to the next P2 size (that could be incorrect info - I don't know what Unity does). I switched the sign on the cloud speeds for Kerbin, so they're moving west to east (which matches the cloud directions at my latitude). I will have to keep flying with this mod to make sure I don't end up having memory problems, but this looks awesome - it rates up there with Chatterer as a "necessary but frivolous mod" that adds a lot of character to the game.

[Lucchese]

Yep, that fixed the flicker. The periodic hiccup I see in KSP (every couple of seconds) seems less pronounced, too (although maybe that's because the city lights aren't flickering). Looks good on the ground, looks good on orbit. A couple of minor tweaks I did locally: I converted the images all to TGA (to get mipmaps generated). I converted the cloud maps for Kerbin to a 2048x1024 and a 1024x1024, since I read somewhere around these forums that non-power 2 textures get pushed up to the next P2 size (that could be incorrect info - I don't know what Unity does). I switched the sign on the cloud speeds for Kerbin, so they're moving west to east (which matches the cloud directions at my latitude). I will have to keep flying with this mod to make sure I don't end up having memory problems, but this looks awesome - it rates up there with Chatterer as a "necessary but frivolous mod" that adds a lot of character to the game.

You can see clouds from the launchpad?

Clouds do not become visible for me until over about 120000 meters

Edited October 29, 2013 by Lucchese

[rbray89]

So I just removed the BoulderCo folder and extracted it again, still the same problem.

I did not do anything else, I installed the mod, went ingame, built a small rocket and launched it.

Edit: oh!

Remove old, then install new or...?

Also, could you please name your archive something else then GameData (ie BoulderCo) so I can identify whats in it in the future

Is it working then?

[rbray89]

You shouldn't have any issues with modifying the textures...

Unfortunately seams will likely occur when wrapping textures around. I'll try to investigate though.

[rbray89]

Now I dont have any clouds on the launchpad.

I do see clouds from orbit though.

Also, when I pressed revert to launch just now I ended up launching from the grass:

Reverting again makes me spawn on that location again, going back to VAB and then launching again fixes the location.

That shouldn't be from my mod... It can't do anything like that. I have seen something like that occurring in the "Life Size" Kerbin thread though.

[rbray89]

Yeah, unity scales up to the next power of two up to 1024 unless otherwise specified. Don't know what KSP does internally when loading them though.

[rbray89]

You can see clouds from the launchpad?

Clouds do not become visible for me until over about 120000 meters

You also might try timewarping... I find that there are "sunny days" at KSP sometimes that have fooled me occasionally.

[Lucchese]

That shouldn't be from my mod... It can't do anything like that. I have seen something like that occurring in the "Life Size" Kerbin thread though.

Not having clouds is also caused by another mod?

Please note I also do not have clouds when im on the correct loctaion

[rbray89]

Not having clouds is also caused by another mod?

Please note I also do not have clouds when im on the correct loctaion

Sorry, I meant that the revert to launch issue couldn't be caused by my mod. Did you try timewarping?

[Lucchese]

Sorry, I meant that the revert to launch issue couldn't be caused by my mod. Did you try timewarping?

Yes, there were no clouds visible whatever I tried (not that there was much I could think of ) until above 120000m.

[rbray89]

Yes, there were no clouds visible whatever I tried (not that there was much I could think of ) until above 120000m.

hmmm... do the clouds not appear if you launch the game, launch a rocket directly? Or is this only after a revert to launch?

[Lucchese]

The clouds arent visible, unless when in the space center overview (I just found out)

When i launch a rocket I see no clouds whatsoever, when i go back to the space center overview I _do_ see your clouds.

This time when I launch, I can clearly see the clouds for just a second before it gets "turned off".

This happens before vessel unload.

[rbray89]

What happens if you go to map view while launching and then go back to see your rocket?

[Lucchese]

No change.

In the process of trying to reduce the size of a video I just made for you but its not going that well, do you have a minute (or come to IRC?)

Finally:

You must look very carefully to see it happen.

Edited October 29, 2013 by Lucchese

[rbray89]

No change.

In the process of trying to reduce the size of a video I just made for you but its not going that well, do you have a minute (or come to IRC?)

Finally:

You must look very carefully to see it happen.

Hmm... it looks like you are running with an old dev-build I had a while back. Are you running with the Kethane Mod? I know it generates overlays, and I wonder if it could be interfering...

Could you post your KSP.log file here for me to look at? (or at least the lines that start with "Clouds:")

[rbray89]

Actually, it would probably be good to know all the mods you are running with.

[Lucchese]

Yes, I am running the Kethane mod.

Here is the ksp.log and here the output_log.txt.

If you need me to do something just tell me ^^

List of mods:

ASET

Aviantionlights

DRE

EnhancedNavball

FAR

FusTek (station parts)

Innsewerants Space Agency (mapsat 4.0 devbuild)

KAS

Keramzit (hyperedit)

kerbjointreinforcement

kerbaltek

kerbcam

kethane

kos

kspx

mechjeb2

RBR (chatterer)

rcsbuildaid

realsolarsystem

Universereplacer

Edited October 29, 2013 by Lucchese

[rbray89]

Yes, I am running the Kethane mod.

Here is the ksp.log and here the output_log.txt.

If you need me to do something just tell me ^^

List of mods:

ASET

Aviantionlights

DRE

EnhancedNavball

FAR

FusTek (station parts)

Innsewerants Space Agency (mapsat 4.0 devbuild)

KAS

Keramzit (hyperedit)

kerbjointreinforcement

kerbaltek

kerbcam

kethane

kos

kspx

mechjeb2

RBR (chatterer)

rcsbuildaid

realsolarsystem

Universereplacer

Oh wow... Ok... Hmm.... That is a long list... Firstly: make sure you are running Alpha-10. If that is already the case...

I hate to ask you to do this, but the only way I could narrow this down is to try my mod with the exact version of everything that is being run. The only way I can do this is if you provide the links that you used to download everything... OR You copy the entire KSP directory and one-by-one remove/add mods until it works/breaks. The two that stand out are realsolarsystem and kethane.

EDIT:

OH! Try modifying the radius of the planets in my CLOUD_LAYERS.cfg file. They guy who make the realsolarysystem mod made some size edits that would probably affect the cloud size.