[1.8.x-1.12.x] Module Manager 4.2.3 (July 03th 2023) - Fireworks season

undercoveryankee · December 24, 2014

I feel really bad to keep asking questions like that. But hopefully they're ceasing!
What's the difference between
"@PART
[*]:HAS[@MODULE(...)" and
"@PART
[*]:HAS[MODULE(...)"
?
When, and why should I use the "@" in that very line, while checking if a part has something, like a certain module? Thank you!

There are several different things that can go in a :HAS[] selector. "@MODULE" or "!MODULE" mean "Look for parts that either have or don't have a MODULE node meeting this selector." You also have "#parameter" and "~parameter" to look for nodes that either have or don't have a value named "parameter" that meets the selector.

So :HAS[@MODULE] requires the "@" both for consistency with the "find an existing node" patch type and for consistency with all of the other types of arguments that require punctuation there.

Kowgan · December 24, 2014

@undercoveryankee: Thank you, that was very clarifying.

lextacy · December 26, 2014

Can someone tell me why this simple MM config is not working? I have this file placed in the game data folder.

@PART[Large_Crewed_Lab]:Final
MODULE
{
name = ModuleScienceExperiment
experimentID = mobileMaterialsLab
experimentActionName = Observe Materials Bay
resetActionName = Reset Materials Bay
useStaging = False
useActionGroups = True
hideUIwhenUnavailable = True
xmitDataScalar = 0.2
FxModules = 0
dataIsCollectable = True
collectActionName = Collect Data
interactionRange = 1.2
}
MODULE
{
name = ModuleScienceExperiment
experimentID = mysteryGoo
experimentActionName = Observe Mystery Goo
resetActionName = Reset Goo Canister
useStaging = False
useActionGroups = True
hideUIwhenUnavailable = True
xmitDataScalar = 0.3
FxModules = 0
dataIsCollectable = True
collectActionName = Collect Data
interactionRange = 1.2
}
@PART[MK1-2Pod]:Final
MODULE
{
name = KASModuleContainer
maxSize = 300
}

Mecripp · December 26, 2014

Can someone tell me why this simple MM config is not working? I have this file placed in the game data folder.

Looks like your missing a couple of { }

@PART[Large_Crewed_Lab]:Final
[COLOR="#FF0000"]{[/COLOR]                    [COLOR="#FF0000"] <-------------------- here[/COLOR]
MODULE
{
name = ModuleScienceExperiment
experimentID = mobileMaterialsLab

experimentActionName = Observe Materials Bay
resetActionName = Reset Materials Bay

useStaging = False
useActionGroups = True
hideUIwhenUnavailable = True

xmitDataScalar = 0.2

FxModules = 0

dataIsCollectable = True
collectActionName = Collect Data
interactionRange = 1.2
}

MODULE
{
name = ModuleScienceExperiment

experimentID = mysteryGoo

experimentActionName = Observe Mystery Goo
resetActionName = Reset Goo Canister

useStaging = False
useActionGroups = True
hideUIwhenUnavailable = True

xmitDataScalar = 0.3

FxModules = 0

dataIsCollectable = True
collectActionName = Collect Data
interactionRange = 1.2
}
[COLOR="#FF0000"]}[/COLOR]      [COLOR="#FF0000"]<------------ here[/COLOR]

@PART[MK1-2Pod]:Final
[COLOR="#FF0000"]{[/COLOR]     [COLOR="#FF0000"]<------------ here[/COLOR]
MODULE
{
name = KASModuleContainer
maxSize = 300
[COLOR="#FF0000"]}[/COLOR]      [COLOR="#FF0000"]<---------------here[/COLOR]
}

Edited December 26, 2014 by Mecripp2

lextacy · December 26, 2014

Looks like your missing a couple of { }
snipped

hmm, a bit confused....so I need an ending bracket twice at the bottom for? Or did you wrap a beg and end bracket on the 2 parts? Ugh confused, me no coder . If I code I get brain goo that leaks out my ears.

Mecripp · December 26, 2014

hmm, a bit confused....so I need an ending bracket twice at the bottom for? Or did you wrap a beg and end bracket on the 2 parts? Ugh confused, me no coder . If I code I get brain goo that leaks out my ears.

Added one to top and bottom and then the 2nd 1 one to the top and bottom.

Starwaster · December 26, 2014

hmm, a bit confused....so I need an ending bracket twice at the bottom for? Or did you wrap a beg and end bracket on the 2 parts? Ugh confused, me no coder . If I code I get brain goo that leaks out my ears.

things like @PART

[*] sections need to be enclosed in brackets too. (some sources differentiate between {} and [] by referring to the former as braces and the latter as brackets to avoid confusion. Or curly brackets and box/square brackets)

BTW you should get in the habit of using indentation. It makes code easier to read and debug, much as proper grammar and punctuation do. (see below for your config indented)

See? Doesn't this make it easier to understand?


@PART[Large_Crewed_Lab]:Final
{
	MODULE 
	{ 
		name = ModuleScienceExperiment 
		experimentID = mobileMaterialsLab 


		experimentActionName = Observe Materials Bay 
		resetActionName = Reset Materials Bay 


		useStaging = False 
		useActionGroups = True 
		hideUIwhenUnavailable = True 


		xmitDataScalar = 0.2 


		FxModules = 0 


		dataIsCollectable = True 
		collectActionName = Collect Data 
		interactionRange = 1.2 
	}


	MODULE 
	{ 
		name = ModuleScienceExperiment 


		experimentID = mysteryGoo 


		experimentActionName = Observe Mystery Goo 
		resetActionName = Reset Goo Canister 


		useStaging = False 
		useActionGroups = True 
		hideUIwhenUnavailable = True 


		xmitDataScalar = 0.3 


		FxModules = 0 


		dataIsCollectable = True 
		collectActionName = Collect Data 
		interactionRange = 1.2 
	}
}
@PART[MK1-2Pod]:Final
{
	MODULE 
	{ 
		name = KASModuleContainer 
		maxSize = 300 
	}
}

Mecripp · December 26, 2014

hmm, a bit confused....so I need an ending bracket twice at the bottom for? Or did you wrap a beg and end bracket on the 2 parts? Ugh confused, me no coder . If I code I get brain goo that leaks out my ears.

Well testing it the lab part works fine but the KASModuleContainer don't want to.

EDIT- Well then again the KAS Container are not working at all

Edited December 26, 2014 by Mecripp2

lextacy · December 26, 2014

Well testing it the lab part works fine but the KASModuleContainer don't want to.
EDIT- Well then again the KAS Container are not working at all

oh you tired my test config? Hey try doing the KAS container using KAS's own MM file. Ill test the new config Starwaster posted. We can post our finding and compare

Mecripp · December 26, 2014

oh you tired my test config? Hey try doing the KAS container using KAS's own MM file. Ill test the new config Starwaster posted. We can post our finding and compare

Well guess, I forgot to update or missed a update for KAS got it working again but still can't add it to a pod like you have it.

EDIT- The only way, I found to added the container to the pods is to edit there cfg.

Edited December 26, 2014 by Mecripp2

lextacy · December 26, 2014

Got the science modules to work, so the container failed on your end while trying to put the entry in MM_Squad.cfg ?

Kolago · December 27, 2014

For some reason module manager has started to semi-consistently freeze at FINAL on the loading screen, with this in player.log:
I don't understand this as it only happens every 2 out of 3 tries, seems to have something to do with the cache, and I am running KSP on x64 Linux. Even if I were running it on 32 bit, it still never gets above 3 gigs allocated!
I tried deleting most of my mods, which brought the number of loaded patches down from ~5000 to ~3000, but it doesn't seem to have had any effect. I am running MM 2.5.3, and I checked to make sure I only had one MM dll.

I am experiencing the same on an Windows System and MM 2.5.6. (Win7 64Bit / KSP 32Bit) patchedNodeCount = 7151

KSP is running with 1.4 GB Mem usage at this time.

Starwaster · December 27, 2014

oh you tired my test config? Hey try doing the KAS container using KAS's own MM file. Ill test the new config Starwaster posted. We can post our finding and compare

Uhm?

Mine was just someone else's with indentation...

(Notepad++ FTW and for auto-indentation)

Mecripp · December 27, 2014

Uhm?
Mine was just someone else's with indentation...
(Notepad++ FTW and for auto-indentation)

Any thought why that don't work ?

@PART[MK1-2Pod]:Final
{
	MODULE 
	{ 
		name = KASModuleContainer 
		maxSize = 80 
	}
}

EDIT- Can edit the part cfg and it's fine but can found away for MM to add it.

Starwaster · December 27, 2014

Any thought why that don't work ?
@PART[MK1-2Pod]:Final
{
    MODULE 
    { 
        name = KASModuleContainer 
        maxSize = 80 
    }
}
EDIT- Can edit the part cfg and it's fine but can found away for MM to add it.

You've got the part name wrong. It's Mark1-2Pod


@PART[Mark1-2Pod]:Final
{
    MODULE 
    { 
        name = KASModuleContainer 
        maxSize = 80 
    }
}

Kolago · December 27, 2014

I am experiencing the same on an Windows System and MM 2.5.6. (Win7 64Bit / KSP 32Bit) patchedNodeCount = 7151
KSP is running with 1.4 GB Mem usage at this time.

After pulling in and out some off my part heavier mods I run into the wall with 5975 patches. 5891 patches is still ok.

It looks like there is an table out off space or variable declaration to small.

Kolago · December 27, 2014

After pulling in and out some off my part heavier mods I run into the wall with 5975 patches. 5891 patches is still ok.
It looks like there is an table out off space or variable declaration to small.

After removing LLL it works with patchedNodeCount = 6146 and ModuleManager.ConfigCache size 4,579,368 bytes... very strange. :confused:

sarbian · December 27, 2014

Delete the ModuleManager cache, launch with the mods that generate the bug and post the log. More chance of getting anything fixed that way

Kolago · December 27, 2014

Delete the ModuleManager cache, launch with the mods that generate the bug and post the log. More chance of getting anything fixed that way

Here is the Log: https://www.dropbox.com/s/51gp4txoz5kb6z5/Debug.zip?dl=0

sarbian · December 27, 2014

The log was not enough. it crash on a NearFuture part but It worked when I installed it.

Can you try it with this version of MM https://www.sarbian.com/sarbian/ModuleManager.dll and post the log again, it should give me more info. Thanks

Kolago · December 27, 2014

The log was not enough. it crash on a NearFuture part but It worked when I installed it.
Can you try it with this version of MM https://www.sarbian.com/sarbian/ModuleManager.dll and post the log again, it should give me more info. Thanks

I can't reproduce the error with the new DLL. patchedNodeCount = 7203

Log is bigger now... 27MB and game takes longer to load.

sarbian · December 27, 2014

ok

I'll build a new release that log those crash better without slowing thing much. Hopefully someone will have it again and I ll fix it.

Starwaster · December 27, 2014

Is that all that new dll did was extra logging? Maybe there's a race condition involved then that's preventing it from cleaning up fast enough to keep up with memory allocation.

Kolago · December 27, 2014

After some restarts of KSP the error showed up again. Log: https://www.dropbox.com/s/yznlelpgedtbiu9/Debug2.zip?dl=0

sarbian · December 27, 2014

Not the same one this time : "System.OutOfMemoryException: Out of memory"

You are playing a bit too close to the memory limit it seems.

[1.8.x-1.12.x] Module Manager 4.2.3 (July 03th 2023) - Fireworks season

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