[1.12.3+] RealChute Parachute Systems v1.4.9.4 | 02/06/24

stupid_chris · April 11, 2014

Actually, it says "Parachutes used (parachutes)" - hence the confusion

Ah, well that's an error on my part. Another thing to change for next update

Chris, I just wanted to say thank you for the effort you put into these chutes.
All I see is a vista of bug reports and hassle for yourself so I thought it would be nice for you to have a post that just said thanks.
So,
Thank you, stupid_chris for Realchutes.
Your chutes have been wonderful and I hope they become stock soon (if that is what you would want)

Thank you, I'm always glad to know people are liking what I do

Quiana · April 11, 2014

Ah, well that's an error on my part. Another thing to change for next update
Thank you, I'm always glad to know people are liking what I do

Indeed, I find myself almost tempted to remove the stock parachute and shift some tech-tree use of your chutes around. The ability to tweak the parachutes as desired makes them infinitely more valuable to me for rocket use. The solution in design shouldn't always be 'strap more on' when you can design 'better' chutes for the situation.

Mystique · April 11, 2014

Something is very wrong here =\

As you can see on screenshots, chute should behave completely normal (I actually didn't even play with settings). Instead only one canopy actually deployes, 2nd stayed predeployed till landing. Good thing I brought airbags for this mission.

Any ideas why this could've happened?

Did another launch of the same craft, just in case - same result:

Edited April 11, 2014 by Mystique

stupid_chris · April 11, 2014

As said on the previous pages, there's a bug with secondary chutes on stack chutes. It's fixed for next release but I'm not ready to push that one yet. And I still can't edit my OP either >.> Worked this time woot, issues list updated.

Mokmo · April 11, 2014

My weird behavior from the chutes: using the inline chute, somehow a setting gets lost and only one of the two chutes fully deploys at 700m, the other one stays half deployed until the ground. I am not sure if it's only the graphics, the pod lands at a normal-ish speed...

stupid_chris · April 11, 2014

My weird behavior from the chutes: using the inline chute, somehow a setting gets lost and only one of the two chutes fully deploys at 700m, the other one stays half deployed until the ground. I am not sure if it's only the graphics, the pod lands at a normal-ish speed...

Look at the last post, quite literally.

Starwaster · April 11, 2014

My weird behavior from the chutes: using the inline chute, somehow a setting gets lost and only one of the two chutes fully deploys at 700m, the other one stays half deployed until the ground. I am not sure if it's only the graphics, the pod lands at a normal-ish speed...

Look at the last post, quite literally.

This one: http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/57988-0-23-x-RealChute-Parachute-Systems-Now-with-100-less-Kraken%21-v1-0-4-1-1-04-14?p=1085170&viewfull=1#post1085170

Mokmo · April 12, 2014

Lol i just saw this, seems i loaded the page, decided to post about the problem about 45 minutes later, and then not even look if there were new messages.

I feel silly, i'll blame it on the fatigue...

Deltac · April 12, 2014

I'm trying to change the config for the Apollo Parachutes for the OLDD Apollo, but I've ran into a problem:

Those "balloons" are a part of the parachute model (there's only one model call in the main config for the chutes), and are supposed to show up after the chute is deployed, but the problem I'm having is before pre-deployment, the balloons are visible at launch and in the VAB. When you deploy the chute, however, the balloons disappear until after the chute has been fully opened, which is the normal operation.

Simplified: The balloons are visible when they shouldn't be. The balloons are a part of the Apollo Parachute model, and activate with the chutes' animation call, not via a separate animation call.

Module Manager Config:


@PART[Apollo_CM_parachutes]
{
	maximum_drag = 0.32

	!MODULE[ModuleParachute]{}

	MODULE
	{
		name = RealChuteModule
		material = Kevlar
		caseMass = 0.2
		preDeployedDiameter = 2.5
		deployedDiameter = 50
		minIsPressure = false
		minDeployment = 2500
		deploymentAlt = 550
		cutAlt = -1
		timer = 0
		mustGoDown = false
		preDeploymentSpeed = 1
		deploymentSpeed = 5
		cutSpeed = 0.5
		preDeploymentAnimation = ParachutesSemi
		deploymentAnimation = ParachutesFully
		parachuteName = DeploySemi
		capName = ParachutePacks
		spareChutes = 5
	}

	MODULE
	{
		name = ProceduralChute
		modelDiameter = 6
	}

	EFFECTS
	{
		rcpredeploy
		{
			AUDIO
			{
				channel = Ship
				clip = sound_parachute_open
				volume = 1
			}
		}

		rcdeploy
		{
			AUDIO
			{
				channel = Ship
				clip = sound_parachute_single
				volume = 1
			}
		}

		rccut
		{
			AUDIO
			{
				channel = Ship
				clip = RealChute/Sounds/sound_parachute_cut
				volume = 1
			}
		}

		rcrepack
		{
			AUDIO
			{
				channel = Ship
				clip = RealChute/Sounds/sound_parachute_repack
				volume = 1
			}
		}
	}
}

stupid_chris · April 12, 2014

I'd need to see the old configs to be sure, but to me it sounds as if you are setting the wrong animation names/canopy name/cap name

Deltac · April 12, 2014

I'd need to see the old configs to be sure, but to me it sounds as if you are setting the wrong animation names/canopy name/cap name

Not sure if sharing configs is allowed, but since you're a moderator, here you go:

PART
{

// --- general parameters ---
name = Apollo_CM_parachutes
module = Part
author = DennyTX

// --- asset parameters ---

rescaleFactor = 1

MODEL
{
	model = OLDD/ApolloCSM/Apollo_CM_parachutes
	scale = 0.64, 0.64, 0.64
	rotation = 0, 0, 0	
}

// --- node definitions ---
// definition format is Position X, Position Y, Position Z, Up X, Up Y, Up Z, size
node_stack_top = 0.0, 0.763, 0.0, 0.0, 1.0, 0.0, 1
node_stack_bottom = 0.0, 0.763, 0.0, 0.0, 1.0, 0.0, 1


// --- FX definitions ---
sound_parachute_open = activate


// --- editor parameters ---
TechRequired = specializedControl
entryCost = 5000
cost = 5000
category = Pods
subcategory = 0
title = Apollo CM triple parachutes

description = Apollo CM triple parachutes

// attachment rules: stack, srfAttach, allowStack, allowSrfAttach, allowCollision
attachRules = 1,0,1,0,0

// --- standard part parameters ---
mass = 0.555
dragModelType = default
angularDrag = 3
crashTolerance = 12
maxTemp = 1000

breakingForce = 100
breakingTorque = 50

stageOffset = -1

// ----- DO NOT EDIT BELOW THIS POINT ------

MODULE
{
  	name = ModuleParachute
	invertCanopy = true
	autoCutSpeed = 0.5
	capName = ParachutePacks
	canopyName = DeploySemi
	semiDeployedAnimation = ParachutesSemi
	fullyDeployedAnimation = ParachutesFully
	stowedDrag = 0.22
	semiDeployedDrag = 1
	fullyDeployedDrag = 500
	minAirPressureToOpen = 0.01
	deployAltitude = 500
	deploymentSpeed = 1
	semiDeploymentSpeed = 1	
}
}

Edited April 12, 2014 by Deltac

CaptainKipard · April 12, 2014

Chris is the secondary chute bug something that's fixable?

stupid_chris · April 12, 2014

Not sure if sharing configs is allowed, but since you're a moderator, here you go:
-snip-

I'm confus ._. does the log show any red lines when you create the part in the editor? And if so can you send me your output_log.txt?

Chris is the secondary chute bug something that's fixable?

Not without changing the plugi- oh wow. Actually yes.

Hold on I'll do a quick MM patch to fix it, can't believe I haven't thought of this before. Thanks for actually asking.

Scratch that, didn't work. Will have to wait for 1.0.5, which should be next week if all goes well :/

Edited April 12, 2014 by stupid_chris

Deltac · April 12, 2014

I'm confus ._. does the log show any red lines when you create the part in the editor? And if so can you send me your output_log.txt?

No red lines of doom. Here's a link to the output log just in case.

Mystique · April 12, 2014

Scratch that, didn't work. Will have to wait for 1.0.5, which should be next week if all goes well :/

Sure. I'll tell Jeb it was just a Murphy's law in action

Deltac · April 12, 2014

So any ideas for the Apollo Parachute from OLDD, or are we just going to have to pressure Denny some more?

stupid_chris · April 12, 2014

So any ideas for the Apollo Parachute from OLDD, or are we just going to have to pressure Denny some more?

None actually, I'm a pretty confused at what is happening. It might be how he build the part :/

Capt. Hunt · April 13, 2014

That first "bug" is only an aesthetics bug. It won't show anything but the values are there anyway. It's not in my field, KSP is the only thing that handles part copying, and apparently it's too dumb to properly initiate the components. So yeah, the values are applying normally, ignore it.
I'd edit the OP to show this, but I'm getting 500's
The KSP.log doesn't tell me what's going on unfortunately. I'll need your output_log.txt
EDIT: I scrolled through it and it doesn't even seem any RealChute part was even present in any of the flights of this log.

that's the problem, I most certainly put a Realchute part on that rocket. and for some reason it doesn't load it.

stupid_chris · April 13, 2014

that's the problem, I most certainly put a Realchute part on that rocket. and for some reason it doesn't load it.

There's a lot of errors coming from a lot of mods, mainly MechJeb, I would try removing them to see if that would be the cause of the problem.

Commissar · April 13, 2014

There's a lot of errors coming from a lot of mods, mainly MechJeb, I would try removing them to see if that would be the cause of the problem.

mechjeb seems to be throwing alot of errors lately...

in other news, I decided to take a look at the code for RC.... it... it.... it's beautiful... lol

stupid_chris · April 13, 2014

mechjeb seems to be throwing alot of errors lately...
in other news, I decided to take a look at the code for RC.... it... it.... it's beautiful... lol

Extremely inneficient to be honest :/ I'm a science students and this is merely a hobby, Kethane has some much better code to look at tbh

Commissar · April 13, 2014

Extremely inneficient to be honest :/ I'm a science students and this is merely a hobby, Kethane has some much better code to look at tbh

to be honest, i'm a computer science student, and all I know is java, lol

stupid_chris · April 13, 2014

So for those interested by the secondary chute bug.

case DeploymentStates.DEPLOYED:
        {
            FollowDragDirection(secParachute, GetForcedVector(secParachute, secForcedOrientation));
            ParachuteNoise(secParachute);
            this.part.rigidbody.AddForceAtPosition(DragForce(secPreDeployedArea, secDeployedArea, secMat.dragCoefficient, secDeploymentSpeed, false), secForcePosition, ForceMode.Force);
            {
                secDragTimer.Reset();
                secDragTimer.Start();
                this.part.PlayAnimation(secDeploymentAnimation, 1 / secDeploymentSpeed);
                this.secPlayed = true;
            }
            break;
        }

This is the relevant code to the issue. This basically controls the secondary deployment. It should've said this:

case DeploymentStates.DEPLOYED:
        {
            FollowDragDirection(secParachute, GetForcedVector(secParachute, secForcedOrientation));
            ParachuteNoise(secParachute);
            this.part.rigidbody.AddForceAtPosition(DragForce(secPreDeployedArea, secDeployedArea, secMat.dragCoefficient, secDeploymentSpeed, false), secForcePosition, ForceMode.Force);
            [COLOR="#FF0000"][B]if (!this.part.CheckAnimationPlaying(secPreDeploymentAnimation) && !this.secPlayed)[/B][/COLOR]
            {
                secDragTimer.Reset();
                secDragTimer.Start();
                this.part.PlayAnimation(secDeploymentAnimation, 1 / secDeploymentSpeed);
                this.secPlayed = true;
            }
            break;
        }

Basically, the bolded part is what controls the access to this short block below. Without it, this block would run every frame... and thus, the animation would be resetted every frame, and the drag as well. So it just appeared to never deploy, while it was constantly deploying over and over again, but just resetted itself each frame. Yay for typos that don't throw errors but completely render your code unfunctional.

Edited April 13, 2014 by stupid_chris

Starwaster · April 13, 2014

So for those interested by the secondary chute bug.
Basically, the bolded part is what controls the access to this short block below. Without it, this block would run every frame... and thus, the animation would be resetted every frame, and the drag as well. So it just appeared to never deploy, while it was constantly deploying over and over again, but just resetted itself each frame. Yay for typos that don't throw errors but completely render your code unfunctional.

Yeah, those are always fun. How do you expect me to find you, bug, when you don't throw errors???

Playing 'find the missing brace' is also good fun.

Or writing several hundred lines of code without trying to compile once and then wondering at the end which part is keeping you from compiling...

stupid_chris · April 13, 2014

Or writing several hundred lines of code without trying to compile once and then wondering at the end which part is keeping you from compiling...

I relate to this on an emotional level. Literally the transition from v0.3 -> v1.0

EDIT: and oh wow that was my 4000th post

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