[WIP] Wetworks Crew Tanks

[Kokanee]

Very cool idea, and I like the look you are going for to match stock parts.

[Commander Zoom]

Great mod, great textures... just plain great.

[ZobrAA]

I encountered some weirdness. All was quite nice during on launching and docking, but when I came again with next station module:

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The only thing I can assume here is that you need to avoid attaching animated solar panels directly to wetwork tanks...

[enneract]

I really like this. I really really like this.

Does this function as a science lab module?

I can't wait for IVAs!

[User Unrelated]

I tried this today, but I seem to be having a problem...

As soon as I put kerbals in the tank after it has been converted, they sort of get... stuck there.

I lose them on the little crew face feed on the bottom right, and can't seem to figure out a way to get them back OUT of the module...

It's a neat idea, and maybe I'm just being really dumb, but yes, IVA's would be awesome!

[Mach_XXII]

I tried this today, but I seem to be having a problem...

As soon as I put kerbals in the tank after it has been converted, they sort of get... stuck there.

I lose them on the little crew face feed on the bottom right, and can't seem to figure out a way to get them back OUT of the module...

It's a neat idea, and maybe I'm just being really dumb, but yes, IVA's would be awesome!

You need to click on the door and a tab will pop up with a list of crew and you can Eva them from there

[User Unrelated]

I did that, and nothing was happening.

It's the same way that I have to do it for the stock science lab, so naturally, that was the first thing I tried.

[tal2410]

Quick module manager script to add the crew cabin internals to the wetworks tanks:

@PART[wetCrewCabin16]

{

INTERNAL

{

name = crewCabinInternals

}

}

@PART[wetCrewCabin32]

{

INTERNAL

{

name = crewCabinInternals

}

}

Note that only 4 kerbals at a time can have a portrait with the 32 cabin.

[TheBedla]

After playing around with your tanks quite a lot, I have an idea and a bug to report:

The idea: As IRL, the coversion would require some manual work (pumping the systems, rebuilding the interior etc.), but it would be too complicated to add a system checking for the presence of Kerbals onboard before allowing conversion, why not make the "Convert to Crew Tank" an action clickable from EVA? Do you think it would work?

And the bug - after conversion, it seems the panels covering the door and the windows seem to fly off not directly from the tank, but seem to "get stuck" at a particular point in orbit, and have very high relative velocity to the tank. This actually broke some components stuck on my tanks. I think the correct behaviour should be that the panels would have the same orbital velocity and only gain some small relative velocity from the tank, as decoupled parts do.

Has anyone else encountered this?

[Whirligig Girl]

Is this dead? I'd love to see continuation! EDIT: Didn't see the last post from February, I guess it's not dead then.

[tal2410]

Bring

Us

More

Props!

Is this thing still alive? I'd love to see an IVA.

[kiwiak]

After playing around with your tanks quite a lot, I have an idea and a bug to report:

The idea: As IRL, the coversion would require some manual work (pumping the systems, rebuilding the interior etc.), but it would be too complicated to add a system checking for the presence of Kerbals onboard before allowing conversion, why not make the "Convert to Crew Tank" an action clickable from EVA? Do you think it would work?

And the bug - after conversion, it seems the panels covering the door and the windows seem to fly off not directly from the tank, but seem to "get stuck" at a particular point in orbit, and have very high relative velocity to the tank. This actually broke some components stuck on my tanks. I think the correct behaviour should be that the panels would have the same orbital velocity and only gain some small relative velocity from the tank, as decoupled parts do.

Has anyone else encountered this?

Actually window and door covers coudl be made grabbable by KAS - only way to remove them actually.

Immersion!

[craigmt1]

Would love to rescale this for Realism Overhaul, but having three independent models makes it pretty tough :/

[wasmic]

Will this be updated for 0.23.5? Alternatively, does anybody around here know whether it still works in 0.23.5?

[Helix935]

hmm wonder if Lunaran is active or if anyone would like to make an IVA for these?

[Der Kosmos]

Another sorta bug I noticed.

Once you drain the tank and convert it to a wet workshop it will show up under the TAC fuel balancer as having a capacity of NaN. This also breaks mechjeb's delta-v display. I'm not sure if it also breaks Kerbal Engineer, but I imagine it might have the same issue because any number times not a number is also not a number. Maybe a way to prevent this is to instead change the fuel capacity to 0 or 1 instead of NaN?

Also, it would be really cool if the textures were more stock alike (They look too greebly compared to the rest of the spacecraft) and had IVAs, but other people have asked those things before I think.

[Whirligig Girl]

I'd love to see a large 6-crew Wetworks built around the size 3 parts.

[Whirligig Girl]

Bumping this because it's great.

[meve12]

Just gave this a test. Nice one all round.

Is CLS support soonish?

[Lunaran]

BUUUMP

hmm wonder if Lunaran is active or if anyone would like to make an IVA for these?

I've had IVAs half finished forever. Finally dusting this off to try and make it release-worthy.

It's the same way that I have to do it for the stock science lab, so naturally, that was the first thing I tried.

Ladders and airlocks are finicky. I've tuned the shapes a bit so everything should behave a little better, but it will never be perfect (it isn't perfect on the stock parts either).

(You get the 'crew hatch' prompt when you mouse over the box-shaped volume that defines the trigger zone for the airlock door. If there's a ladder trigger volume running through it (which there always is), the ladder volume 'occludes' the airlock volume so the cursor doesn't catch it. That's why it's sometimes funny to try and get the 'crew hatch' prompt, and these tanks were worse than most.)

why not make the "Convert to Crew Tank" an action clickable from EVA? Do you think it would work?

That's an easy change, and I like it. I'll try it.

after conversion, it seems the panels covering the door and the windows seem to fly off not directly from the tank, but seem to "get stuck" at a particular point in orbit, and have very high relative velocity to the tank.

I thiiink I fixed this. I want ejected covers to behave just like broken solar panel bits.

Would love to rescale this for Realism Overhaul, but having three independent models makes it pretty tough :/

I split the models up into bits so I could reuse top and bottom on both tanks to save memory. sorry :/

Once you drain the tank and convert it to a wet workshop it will show up under the TAC fuel balancer as having a capacity of NaN. This also breaks mechjeb's delta-v display. I'm not sure if it also breaks Kerbal Engineer, but I imagine it might have the same issue because any number times not a number is also not a number.

I actually don't change the max resource level to anything, I literally remove the resource component from the part instance. TAC fuel balancer and mechjeb must build a list of parts with resources once and then never rebuild it (a safe assumption, honestly), while Kerbal Engineer seems to err on the side of always updating.

If I just set the max resource level to 0, there will always be a dummy resource bar showing 0/0 LF and 0/0 OX in the right click menu for the tanks. I don't like that, but if it's hosing mods everyone uses otherwise I might have to live with it.

I'd love to see a large 6-crew Wetworks built around the size 3 parts.

me too

Is CLS support soonish?

I'm looking at this. CLS provides a nice thorough API, so it seems simple to do.

ANYWAY

Rebuilt the plugin for 0.24.2, fiddled with slight texture updates, and made the panels pop off with a lot less velocity. And I think I made them not get 'lodged' in space any more.

Update soon.

[Helix935]

BUUUMP

I've had IVAs half finished forever. Finally dusting this off to try and make it release-worthy.

Ladders and airlocks are finicky. I've tuned the shapes a bit so everything should behave a little better, but it will never be perfect (it isn't perfect on the stock parts either).

(You get the 'crew hatch' prompt when you mouse over the box-shaped volume that defines the trigger zone for the airlock door. If there's a ladder trigger volume running through it (which there always is), the ladder volume 'occludes' the airlock volume so the cursor doesn't catch it. That's why it's sometimes funny to try and get the 'crew hatch' prompt, and these tanks were worse than most.)

That's an easy change, and I like it. I'll try it.

I thiiink I fixed this. I want ejected covers to behave just like broken solar panel bits.

I split the models up into bits so I could reuse top and bottom on both tanks to save memory. sorry :/

I actually don't change the max resource level to anything, I literally remove the resource component from the part instance. TAC fuel balancer and mechjeb must build a list of parts with resources once and then never rebuild it (a safe assumption, honestly), while Kerbal Engineer seems to err on the side of always updating.

If I just set the max resource level to 0, there will always be a dummy resource bar showing 0/0 LF and 0/0 OX in the right click menu for the tanks. I don't like that, but if it's hosing mods everyone uses otherwise I might have to live with it.

me too

I'm looking at this. CLS provides a nice thorough API, so it seems simple to do.

ANYWAY

Rebuilt the plugin for 0.24.2, fiddled with slight texture updates, and made the panels pop off with a lot less velocity. And I think I made them not get 'lodged' in space any more.

Update soon.

0.0 well then GOOD TO HAVE YOU BACK LUNARAN!! great to hear that you are alive and working on continuing wetworks tanks especially in light of the .25 and the recent skyrocketing mod quality standard which has made things pretty crazy...

good stuff sir and i know you will do well

[wasmic]

ANYWAY

Rebuilt the plugin for 0.24.2, fiddled with slight texture updates, and made the panels pop off with a lot less velocity. And I think I made them not get 'lodged' in space any more.

Update soon.

YAAAAAAY! Even if these parts weren't wet workshops, I'd use them anyway because they look so great.

[Nicholander]

Can't wait until you're finished updating it Lunaran!

[Mecha Pants]

These are still Awesome parts, and they've had a place in my installs since their first release. I'm ecstatic to see they're still alive.

[SpeedyB]

First time I've seen this, looking forward to it getting finished. Those parts look awesome, can't wait to see the IVAs.