Chaka Monkey - Closed Development Thread

Mecripp · November 12, 2014

O boy full update test hehe thanks will try it out.

EDIT- Next update can we get all the plugin's in a plugin folder ?

Edited November 12, 2014 by Mecripp2

pw4x3r · November 12, 2014

Okay
@MeCripp & @pw4x3r can you see if you agree before we make this an official update? Also test it with ATM
Ooh lookie another #

Success!!! You got it! I think that's going to make a lot of people really happy.

I think you're probably right about the transmitting!

-Adding some pics from last update - everything works!

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Edited November 12, 2014 by pw4x3r
adding pics

Mecripp · November 12, 2014

Ouch was looking good but the docking ports and launch escape sys are still input null and if there around 4 on 1 craft it won't make it to the launch pad And on your Antenna there is

DeployFxModules = 0

There's not a fx on it that, I can see that all it does is tell the Antenna to flash it's light if it has them or to extend might be one of your transmit error. Edited November 12, 2014 by Mecripp2

YANFRET · November 12, 2014

Ouch was looking good but the docking ports and launch escape sys are still input null and if there around 4 on 1 craft it won't make it to the launch pad https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/72893034/1.png https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/72893034/1c.png https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/72893034/2.png

Wow. I'm not sure what to tell you. I'm definitely not getting any of those errors. I'l try adding more mods to my install to see if I can duplicate, but I think we might need to sort out which other mods are interacting on your install one by one and decide what to do from there.

Success!!! You got it! I think that's going to make a lot of people really happy.
I think you're probably right about the transmitting!
-Adding some pics from last update - everything works!
http://imgur.com/a/i4Zby

Awesome pics!!! You've been busy!

Edited November 12, 2014 by YANFRET

pw4x3r · November 12, 2014

I can confirm compatibility with the following active:

Active Texture Management

Animated Decouplers

ASET Rover / Alcor Pod

Baha Constellation parts

Bio Domes parts

CactEye Orbital Telescope

Chatterer

Environmental Visual Enhancements

Habitatpack + Firespitter Plugin

JSI RPM

Kerbal Attachment System

KW Rocketry

Infernal Robotics

NavyFish's Docking Port Align. Indicator

Planetshine

Realchute

Trajectories

Tweakscale!

Mecripp · November 12, 2014

Your right it's one of the mods, I'm running, Put in a test install and all good, Will try and hunt it down.

YANFRET · November 12, 2014

Your right it's one of the mods, I'm running, Put in a test install and all good, Will try and hunt it down.

You make me crazy but I need you to be that way for product quality lol

I can confirm compatibility with the following active:
Active Texture Management
Animated Decouplers
ASET Rover / Alcor Pod
Baha Constellation parts
Bio Domes parts
CactEye Orbital Telescope
Chatterer
Environmental Visual Enhancements
Habitatpack + Firespitter Plugin
JSI RPM
Kerbal Attachment System
KW Rocketry
Infernal Robotics
NavyFish's Docking Port Align. Indicator
Planetshine
Realchute
Trajectories
Tweakscale!

That's really sweet actually... I'm not gonna speculate which product our esteemed colleague has on there but I'm guessing it has a warning label similar to a box of explosives

EDIT: Oh one thing, I bet ATM is ruining the textures on the fuel tanks. They are actually quite small (512) for the size of the parts they are used on and an achievement of texture efficiency if I might say so myself ... ...I think we should plan on adding an exception script for them.

Also, if we move everything in the pack to DDS, maybe ATM could be asked to go easy

Edited November 12, 2014 by YANFRET

wasmic · November 12, 2014

You make me crazy but I need you to be that way for product quality lol
That's really sweet actually... I'm not gonna speculate which product our esteemed colleague has on there but I'm guessing it has a warning label similar to a box of explosives
EDIT: Oh one thing, I bet ATM is ruining the textures on the fuel tanks. They are actually quite small (512) for the size of the parts they are used on and an achievement of texture efficiency if I might say so myself ... ...I think we should plan on adding an exception script for them.
Also, if we move everything in the pack to DDS, maybe ATM could be asked to go easy

I have personally tried converting everything to .dds format, and two problems seem to arise:

1: The CHAKA struts will not be loaded by the game (this is an easy .cfg fix).

2: The SLS core (but not the MLS core, for some reason) will have the lighting broken (maybe the normal maps are messed up?).

YANFRET · November 12, 2014

I have personally tried converting everything to .dds format, and two problems seem to arise:
1: The CHAKA struts will not be loaded by the game (this is an easy .cfg fix).
2: The SLS core (but not the MLS core, for some reason) will have the lighting broken (maybe the normal maps are messed up?).

I ran into the same problem with the old strut file, but that's fixed with the latest update 26.1, leaving the SLS core to sort out. Thanks for testing that.

Oh and I updated the main page and kerbalstuff with 0.26.1 which should be our last update before moving the pack to DDS for .27. For quality control I want to make sure we don't loose too much in the texture compression. If there is a part that gets too lossy maybe we will move it to MBM

Edited November 12, 2014 by YANFRET

Mecripp · November 12, 2014

@YANFRET just asking but why did you give all parts the

MODULE
{
name = MechJebCore
}

And it's slow going adding mods one by one to see when it chokes.

EDIT- Did see had this plugin 5x KSPAPIExtensions.dll but looks like only 1 loads

EDIT- About MJ you could have just run a MM

@PART[*]:HAS[@MODULE[ModuleCommand],!MODULE[MechJebCore]]
{
MODULE
{
name = MechJebCore
}
}

That way if they don't have MJ they don't get the error message. Edited November 12, 2014 by Mecripp2

YANFRET · November 12, 2014

@YANFRET just asking but why did you give all parts the And it's slow going adding mods one by one to see when it chokes.
EDIT- Did see had this plugin 5x KSPAPIExtensions.dll but looks like only 1 loads
EDIT- About MJ you could have just run a MM That way if they don't have MJ they don't get the error message.

I agree with that but what if they load it with mech jeb but not module manager

Mecripp · November 12, 2014

LOL who don't have module manager and are installing mods ? hehe

EDIT- And have to have for your mod anyway. ( Got to love that monkey )

YANFRET · November 12, 2014

LOL who don't have module manager and are installing mods ? hehe
EDIT- And have to have for your mod anyway. ( Got to love that monkey )

Well you have to look at it another way. Once we start believing that everyone uses module manager, we start down the slippery slope of infinite plugin dependency. Even if from time to time we are compelled to add a plugin for smart reasons (dds?) we must still continue to plan as if no other plugins would be installed.

HansB · November 12, 2014

Oh and I updated the main page and kerbalstuff with 0.26.1 which should be our last update before moving the pack to DDS for .27.

Is it possible to keep another pack with the "normal" pictures?

I am using the loadondemand mod, which (for me) works perfect, but at the moment cann't use dds format.

Mecripp · November 12, 2014

Found my bug it's ConnectedLivingSpace, Maybe out of date will see if there is a update or maybe drop it and about ( DDS ), I'm not sure that is the way to go isn't that still in the work on stage thought they was still having problems with it?

EDIT- Could see MBM before DDS.

EDIT- Well on a side note of plugin's, I have delete all your plugins but 1 lol

EDIT- Downloaded a up to date ConnectedLivingSpace and still got the bug so did stock fix away to transfer kerbals ?

Edited November 13, 2014 by Mecripp2

YANFRET · November 13, 2014

Oh and I updated the main page and kerbalstuff with 0.26.1 which should be our last update before moving the pack to DDS for .27.
Is it possible to keep another pack with the "normal" pictures?
I am using the loadondemand mod, which (for me) works perfect, but at the moment cann't use dds format.

Thank you for making me aware of that potential conflict... I will make certain that whichever direction we go with textures, DDS will be an option rather than a requirement, in keeping with our ethos about plugin dependency.

Mecripp · November 13, 2014

O Yanfret you trick me, I trick me kerbals in pods with xorbitalOrbInternals have no RPM's no monkey tv .

EDIT- Taking those two files out of JSI and fixing them for your name works so if you want the RPM's for them you can make two MM files name them what ever and monkeys have TV again Woohoo.

@PART[*]:HAS[@INTERNAL[xorbitalOrbInternals]]
{
	MODULE
	{
		name = RasterPropMonitorComputer
	}
	@INTERNAL
	{
		@name = xorbitalOrbInternalsRPM
	}
}

And

INTERNAL
{
	name = xorbitalOrbInternalsRPM
	MODEL
	{
		model = CMES/Hab/HabitatPack/Spaces/orbitalOrbInternals/model
	}
	MODULE
	{
		name = InternalCameraTargetHelper
	}
	MODULE
	{
		name = InternalSeat
		seatTransformName = Seat1
		portraitCameraName = pilot_camera
		allowCrewHelmet = false
	}
	MODULE
	{
		name = InternalSeat
		seatTransformName = Seat2
		allowCrewHelmet = false
	}
	MODULE
	{
		name = InternalCameraSwitch
		colliderTransformName = Cam1
		cameraTransformName = Cam1
	}
	MODULE
	{
		name = InternalCameraSwitch
		colliderTransformName = Cam2
		cameraTransformName = Cam2
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = IndicatorPanelRPM
		position = 0.1526378,-0.5076971,0.2497
		rotation = 0.353027,0,-2.294823E-07,0.9356132
		scale = 1,0.9999998,0.9999998
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = JSIEvaHatch
		position = 0,0.922047,0.6258945
		rotation = 0,0,0,1
		scale = 0.2218108,0.05002288,0.07007596
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = JSIStockSquareBlinkenlichten
		position = 0.3637466,-0.6322324,0.3760676
		rotation = 0.353027,0,-2.294823E-07,0.9356132
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = JSIStockSquareBlinkenlichten
		position = 0.363747,-0.6482133,0.3942289
		rotation = 0.353027,0,0,0.9356132
		scale = 1,1,0.9999998
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = JSIStockSquareBlinkenlichten
		position = 0.363747,-0.6641689,0.4123617
		rotation = 0.353027,0,0,0.9356132
		scale = 1,1,0.9999998
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = JSIStockSquareBlinkenlichten
		position = 0.332494,-0.6641687,0.4123614
		rotation = 0.353027,0,0,0.9356132
		scale = 1,1,0.9999998
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = JSIStockSquareBlinkenlichten
		position = 0.332494,-0.6482136,0.3942284
		rotation = 0.353027,0,0,0.9356132
		scale = 1,1,0.9999998
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = JSIStockSquareBlinkenlichten
		position = 0.332494,-0.6322326,0.3760674
		rotation = 0.353027,0,0,0.9356132
		scale = 1,1,0.9999998
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = JSIStockSquareBlinkenlichten
		position = 0.2711269,-0.6322326,0.3760674
		rotation = 0.353027,0,0,0.9356132
		scale = 1,1,0.9999998
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = JSIStockSquareBlinkenlichten
		position = 0.2711269,-0.6482136,0.3942284
		rotation = 0.353027,0,0,0.9356132
		scale = 1,1,0.9999998
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = JSIStockSquareBlinkenlichten
		position = 0.2711269,-0.6641687,0.4123614
		rotation = 0.353027,0,0,0.9356132
		scale = 1,1,0.9999998
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = JSIStockSquareBlinkenlichten
		position = 0.3023799,-0.6641687,0.4123614
		rotation = 0.353027,0,0,0.9356132
		scale = 1,1,0.9999998
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = JSIStockSquareBlinkenlichten
		position = 0.3023799,-0.6482136,0.3942284
		rotation = 0.353027,0,0,0.9356132
		scale = 1,1,0.9999998
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = JSIStockSquareBlinkenlichten
		position = 0.3023799,-0.6322326,0.3760674
		rotation = 0.353027,0,0,0.9356132
		scale = 1,1,0.9999998
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = JSIStockSquareBlinkenlichten
		position = 0.2400035,-0.6322326,0.3760674
		rotation = 0.353027,0,0,0.9356132
		scale = 1,1,0.9999998
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = JSIStockSquareBlinkenlichten
		position = 0.2400035,-0.6482136,0.3942284
		rotation = 0.353027,0,0,0.9356132
		scale = 1,1,0.9999998
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = JSIStockSquareBlinkenlichten
		position = 0.2400035,-0.6641687,0.4123614
		rotation = 0.353027,0,0,0.9356132
		scale = 1,1,0.9999998
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = JSIStockSquareButtonGear
		position = 0.1388332,-0.5893143,0.327293
		rotation = 0.353027,0,-2.294823E-07,0.9356132
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = JSIStockSquareButtonLight
		position = 0.1686486,-0.5738091,0.3096717
		rotation = 0.353027,0,-2.294823E-07,0.9356132
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = JSIStockSquareButtonRCS
		position = 0.1686486,-0.5890815,0.3270284
		rotation = 0.353027,0,-2.294823E-07,0.9356132
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = JSIStockSquareButtonSAS
		position = 0.1388068,-0.5738091,0.3096717
		rotation = 0.353027,0,-2.294823E-07,0.9356132
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = RasterPropMonitorBasicMFD
		position = 0.2998753,-0.5115483,0.3089512
		rotation = -0.295497,-0.00144417,0.001334668,0.9553416
		scale = 0.7,0.7,0.7
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = RasterPropMonitorBasicMFD
		position = 0.1540478,-0.6446412,0.3992446
		rotation = -0.399588,1.600588E-07,-1.644485E-07,0.9166949
		scale = 0.3,0.3,0.3
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = RasterPropMonitorBasicMFD
		position = 0.4916345,-0.6190413,0.3716917
		rotation = -0.3995879,0,0,0.9166949
		scale = 0.5,0.5,0.5
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = RasterPropMonitorBasicMFD
		position = 0.491635,-0.5181342,0.263085
		rotation = -0.3995879,0,0,0.9166949
		scale = 0.5,0.5,0.5
	}
}

EDIT- Scratch that, I zipped that folder up my bad put need a cfg for the realchute or that make for hard landings.

Edited November 13, 2014 by Mecripp2

Mecripp · November 13, 2014

Here is a Realchute patch for the 2 OrionDockingPort's

@PART[OrionDockingPortXx]:FOR[RealChute]
{

	maximum_drag = 0.32
	@mass = 0.5

	!MODULE[ModuleParachute]{}
	!MODULE[ModuleParachute]{}

	MODULE
	{
		//General parameters
		name = RealChuteModule
		caseMass = 0.5
		timer = 0
		mustGoDown = false
		spareChutes = 5
		cutSpeed = 0.5
		secondaryChute = true		

		//Main chute
		PARACHUTE
		{
			material = Nylon
			preDeployedDiameter = 3
			deployedDiameter = 55
			minIsPressure = false
			minDeployment = 1900
			deploymentAlt = 750
			cutAlt = -1
			preDeploymentSpeed = 2
			deploymentSpeed = 6
			preDeploymentAnimation = semi
			deploymentAnimation = full
			parachuteName = canopy
			capName = cap
		}

		//Drogue chute
		PARACHUTE
		{
			material = Kevlar
			preDeployedDiameter = 2
			deployedDiameter = 4
			minIsPressure = true
			minPressure = 0.1
			deploymentAlt = 4000
			cutAlt = 1950
			preDeploymentSpeed = 1
			deploymentSpeed = 3
			preDeploymentAnimation = semi1
			deploymentAnimation = full1
			parachuteName = canopy2
			capName = cap2
		}
	}

	EFFECTS
	{
		rcpredeploy
		{
			AUDIO
			{
				channel = Ship
				clip = sound_parachute_open
				volume = 1
			}
		}

		rcdeploy
		{
			AUDIO
			{
				channel = Ship
				clip = sound_parachute_single
				volume = 1
			}
		}

		rccut
		{
			AUDIO
			{
				channel = Ship
				clip = RealChute/Sounds/sound_parachute_cut
				volume = 1
			}
		}

		rcrepack
		{
			AUDIO
			{
				channel = Ship
				clip = RealChute/Sounds/sound_parachute_repack
				volume = 1
			}
		}
	}
}

@PART[OrionDockingPortXWSTANDARDDOCKPORT]:FOR[RealChute]
{

	maximum_drag = 0.32
	@mass = 0.5

	!MODULE[ModuleParachute]{}
	!MODULE[ModuleParachute]{}

	MODULE
	{
		//General parameters
		name = RealChuteModule
		caseMass = 0.5
		timer = 0
		mustGoDown = false
		spareChutes = 5
		cutSpeed = 0.5
		secondaryChute = true		

		//Main chute
		PARACHUTE
		{
			material = Nylon
			preDeployedDiameter = 3
			deployedDiameter = 55
			minIsPressure = false
			minDeployment = 1900
			deploymentAlt = 750
			cutAlt = -1
			preDeploymentSpeed = 2
			deploymentSpeed = 6
			preDeploymentAnimation = semi
			deploymentAnimation = full
			parachuteName = canopy
			capName = cap
		}

		//Drogue chute
		PARACHUTE
		{
			material = Kevlar
			preDeployedDiameter = 2
			deployedDiameter = 4
			minIsPressure = true
			minPressure = 0.1
			deploymentAlt = 4000
			cutAlt = 1950
			preDeploymentSpeed = 1
			deploymentSpeed = 3
			preDeploymentAnimation = semi1
			deploymentAnimation = full1
			parachuteName = canopy2
			capName = cap2
		}
	}

	EFFECTS
	{
		rcpredeploy
		{
			AUDIO
			{
				channel = Ship
				clip = sound_parachute_open
				volume = 1
			}
		}

		rcdeploy
		{
			AUDIO
			{
				channel = Ship
				clip = sound_parachute_single
				volume = 1
			}
		}

		rccut
		{
			AUDIO
			{
				channel = Ship
				clip = RealChute/Sounds/sound_parachute_cut
				volume = 1
			}
		}

		rcrepack
		{
			AUDIO
			{
				channel = Ship
				clip = RealChute/Sounds/sound_parachute_repack
				volume = 1
			}
		}
	}
}

Mecripp · November 13, 2014

Anyone have a problem with undocking some won't undock and some stages after dropped still show more then they should. Thats after hitting the undock button.

Budgie · November 13, 2014

I've had the problem about showing more engines than they have, but no sticking. It normally goes away after I make some distance between craft 1 and craft 2.

YANFRET · November 13, 2014

What happens if you toggle between the two undocked craft with ] [ keys

Mecripp · November 13, 2014

Tells me no nearby ojects to focus and try'ed to take out my lifesupport mod to see if that helps but then can't go back to that craft , Did see that if there is a misnamed file or bad cfg then you get a big grey circle on kerbin.

Mecripp · November 14, 2014

Took out ECLSS the lifesupport mod that was using and don't have a problem with docking or sticky docking ports.

Matul · November 14, 2014

Perhaps its a dumb question but i dont find any information about it.

Does this great mod work with deadly reentry? If i use the Inflatable Shield i cant find anything about the ablative shielding ... and if i try to reentry the pod flips around and get burned.

The instruction.txt tells me:

>> If you use FAR/DRE, you are compelled to check out the scripts included or you will die.<<

What do i have to check? Where to put in the *.cfg? Or do the Heatshields from "deadly reentry" work only?

wasmic · November 14, 2014

Okay, so it's not only the SLS core stage tank that bugs out when .dds is used. Apparently, most of the EMLV, the Orion Service Tank and some other parts also bug out. I have no idea what causes this, nor how to fix it (other than just not using .dds).

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