Chaka Monkey - Closed Development Thread

[YANFRET]

cool mod, can someone help me when i take screenshots this happens

http://i.imgur.com/q1YGKLt.png

so i'm having to use sipping tool to take screenshots e.g

http://i.imgur.com/YkEPAZJ.png

yes, i used snipping tool to get that kerbin rise. i know it's said

I like both screenshots

Edited April 11, 2015 by YANFRET

[YANFRET]

Advanced Monkey Launch Vehicle and Aerojet Kerbodyne Chaka BE-4

Critical Design Review

Edited April 12, 2015 by YANFRET

[crunch]

I like both screenshots

what about this one, i think it looks good as desktop background. but the lander is a little pixelated though.

[YANFRET]

what about this one, i think it looks good as desktop background. but the lander is a little pixelated though.

http://i.imgur.com/CfHItqB.png

I'm a sucker for lens flare moon shots, reminds me of Tycho where they dug up the Monolith. Monkey Bias??

One way to reduce pixelation in shots like that when AA is not available is to toggle the view angle to make it portrait style and then reduce.

AMLV update:

^ Changed engine mount dimensions and texture. Before it looked like a bucket.

Edited April 12, 2015 by YANFRET

[RobotsAndSpaceships]

I am LOVING the new tank design.

[crunch]

I'm a sucker for lens flare moon shots, reminds me of Tycho where they dug up the Monolith. Monkey Bias??

One way to reduce pixelation in shots like that when AA is not available is to toggle the view angle to make it portrait style and then reduce.

AMLV update:

http://imageshack.com/a/img661/2526/d8MZfM.jpg

^ Changed engine mount dimensions and texture. Before it looked like a bucket.

Ok thanks, could you please make a list of the things you have planed .

[blackheart612]

I just realized the BE-4 in Aerojet Kerbodyne was already being used. Was busy back then so forgot to check. Looks like it's in good hands.

[YANFRET]

I just realized the BE-4 in Aerojet Kerbodyne was already being used. Was busy back then so forgot to check. Looks like it's in good hands.

That's because your inbox got full in the middle of our conversation

[YANFRET]

Ok thanks, could you please make a list of the things you have planed .

Well I cant make a list for you tonight, but I can tease you with more screenshots of what is being worked on right now.

AMLV being tested with various upper stages, and a sneak peek at the new Aerojet Kerbodyne engine basket.

Something that has been very much on my mind recently is reducing the memory footprint of the Chaka pack. With the latest projects we're working on, I could see it easily reaching 375 mb on disk unless something is done.

One solution would be to split it into two or three sub packs, however there would be parts overlap from each and then it could be a lot more for us to keep up with. Also, full the user might end up having to load the full pack anyway as missions expand from LKO to DUNA.

Another is to eliminate some of the most memory expensive parts if possible, however several candidates for removal have been rejected as they do contribute great value.

Perhaps 375mb on disk (we're not there yet, but it could happen) isn't so terrible, those who need more room can still use ATM and those who don't want to can use Chaka in a separate install with fewer other mods. I'm not sure, what do you guys think?

Edited April 13, 2015 by YANFRET

[blackheart612]

That's because your inbox got full in the middle of our conversation

Maybe I should clear it then hahahaha thanks for reminding

[wasmic]

Will the AMLV replace the EMLV, or will they be used together?

[zerogs88]

Been sometime that, I used that mod but think it's in BoulderCo folder.

EDIT- Just had to share this there work outside the ISS and have little cams on them https://archive.org/details/EVAGoPro

Ok...just for testing purposes i deleted the whole BoulderCo folder...but it still looks odd! So thats not the trick -.-

[Mecripp]

Ok...just for testing purposes i deleted the whole BoulderCo folder...but it still looks odd! So thats not the trick -.-

If you have more then one install or if you can take out ATM and load the game that would have been a better way to see if thats the problem which think its about 80 % right and the file can be anywhere there maybe one in ASET mod folder looks like it might be on the part cfg like I said, I haven't used ATM in sometime my computer worked hard with it then it does with out it and maybe they fixed that by now.

//----- ATM Config (thanks Green Skull)-----------------------------------------

ACTIVE_TEXTURE_MANAGER_CONFIG
{
	folder = ASET
	enabled  = true

	NORMAL_LIST
	{
		texture = ASET/ALCOR_LanderCapsule/Part/ALCORtempNormalMap2_NRM
	}


	OVERRIDES
	{
			ASET/.*
		{
			compress = false
			mipmaps = false
			scale = 1
			max_size = 0
			filtering = Trilinear
			make_not_readable = false
			compress_normals = false
			mipmaps_normals = false
			scale_normals = 1
			max_size_normals = 0
		}

	}

}

EDIT- That was in ASET/ALCOR_LanderCapsule/part and you will is ALCOR.cfg open it with notepad.

EDIT- Or make sure you have everything installed in the right place.

Edited April 13, 2015 by Mecripp2

[YANFRET]

Will the AMLV replace the EMLV, or will they be used together?

Good question I haven't decided yet. We need to refine the system and establish pros and cons of each.

Also I was considering splitting the pack into three parts, one for Lko, one for Mun, and one for Duna. Maybe in doing so we can establish separate roles for each.

[sp1989]

This mod looks like it could use some Chaka support and integration when the time comes. He seems to be looking for someone to help him with textures. I figured you might be interested.

http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/111964-WIP-Duna-Direct

[Mecripp]

YANFRET maybe before you break it in to packs maybe try a lower resolution pack ?

[Budgie]

Or perhaps split into two packs: launchers (plus Orion) and then payloads?

[Mecripp]

I must have done something wrong or looked at it wrong but thought, I started CMES folder was 345 MB, I converted all the texture that was TGA to PNG and all the textures that was 1024 got cut down to 512 so now it says CMES folder is right at 168 MB rounded up and, All looks the same to me.

EDIT- And if, I know alittle about textures looks like a couple of spots might be about to do alittle more texture sharing.

Edited April 13, 2015 by Mecripp2

[YANFRET]

I must have done something wrong or looked at it wrong but thought, I started CMES folder was 345 MB, I converted all the texture that was TGA to PNG and all the textures that was 1024 got cut down to 512 so now it says CMES folder is right at 168 MB rounded up and, All looks the same to me.

EDIT- And if, I know alittle about textures looks like a couple of spots might be about to do alittle more texture sharing.

PNG does not save ram it's only smaller on disk, and the texture sizes are final and sharing is already optimized in the last update, but you're right there are one or two sharing opportunities, but most of them are on small textures anyway so not much dif

Edited April 13, 2015 by YANFRET

[Mecripp]

PNG does not save ram it's only smaller on disk, and the texture sizes are final and sharing is already optimized in the last update, but you're right there are one or two sharing opportunities, but most of them are on small textures anyway so not much dif

The biggest deal is 1024 and 512 some computers you can't tell they look the same it's like so people like 8k sky box, I can't tell a 8k from a 4k.

EDIT- And the 8k will use more ram that is a quick test you can run is all stock change you sky box to a 8k and see how much ram it's eatting and the 4k and check ram and like, I said some of us can't tell a 8k from a 4k and save some ram.

Edited April 13, 2015 by Mecripp2

[YANFRET]

The biggest deal is 1024 and 512 some computers you can't tell they look the same it's like so people like 8k sky box, I can't tell a 8k from a 4k.

EDIT- And the 8k will use more ram that is a quick test you can run is all stock change you sky box to a 8k and see how much ram it's eatting and the 4k and check ram and like, I said some of us can't tell a 8k from a 4k and save some ram.

On those few that are so large, I can tell the difference and consider those important.

[YANFRET]

Chaka Vulcan development test article

Okay so the new ULA vehicle has a name, a proposed SRB config, and an engine mount strucutre. Seems like we need to make a few adjustments as development continues.

Perhaps it's time for Chaka to have a Centaur model as well.

Edited April 14, 2015 by YANFRET

[sp1989]

chaka vulcan development test article

http://imageshack.com/a/img537/7268/cc30ai.jpg

http://spaceflightnow.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/nc7_vulcan413201560903pm63.jpg

okay so the new ula vehicle has a name, a proposed srb config, and an engine mount strucutre. Seems like we need to make a few adjustments as development continues.

Perhaps it's time for chaka to have a centaur model as well.

ummmm yes please!!

[Mecripp]

Maybe something like

[YANFRET]

Maybe something like http://i.imgur.com/IK9dk7O.gif

Right idea, different shape and engine Actually the casing looks very simple to make, just a cylinder with two slices chopped from either side and then a little rectangle attached to the bottom bit and holes cut out for the engines.

Or to be specific, this shape:

The inside of the "vegetable slice" area looks cut out from the inside because of the brightness

Edited April 14, 2015 by YANFRET