wondering about an idea: is it possible to build a fully controlable helicopter?

[JtPB]

i thought to myself, that if we will build the stator of the propeller with rover wheels that will roll the rotor,

or the rotor with plates & let thruster's exhaust blow on them, than we will have a fully controlable propeller for helis & WW2 planes at KSP.

well on the paper it is seems possible, but is it really will be able to implement?

(and by full control i mean that even the engine power is controlable! that means that realesing the rotor without an option to control its power afterwards is not an answer!)

Edited May 13, 2014 by JtPB

[Godot]

I don´t think that vanilla KSP simulates atmosphere well enough for a helicopter to work

[merendel]

Its been done stock, ScottManly did a spotlight on the design MeticulousMitch came up with. you can watch the video here.

You have to play very fast and loose with the term "Controllable" it can be steered and such but its like trying to parallel park while falling down drunk and with the controlls reversed.

[Chiboko]

Helicopters work fine, I'll upload some rotor bases as soon as my internet speeds up again.

Download: http://www./download/qhcbod752b356f6/Rotors.zip

Edited May 13, 2014 by Chiboko

[Spartwo]

The claw works great for newer bearings I'll put some subassemblies up for you.

[JtPB]

Its been done stock, ScottManly did a spotlight on the design MeticulousMitch came up with. you can watch the video here.

You have to play very fast and loose with the term "Controllable" it can be steered and such but its like trying to parallel park while falling down drunk and with the controlls reversed.

Helicopters work fine, I'll upload some rotor bases as soon as my internet speeds up again.

Download: http://www./download/qhcbod752b356f6/Rotors.zip

ive edited the content of the first post. realesing the rotor without an option to control it after, is not a solution.

[Chiboko]

Put a probe core and an rtg on it, you have to switch to it to control it but it works. Also the ones I uploaded are simply rotor bases (no blades or engine) so you could easily stick a rocket powered paddle wheel on top to control it from the main vessel.

Edited May 13, 2014 by Chiboko

[Red Iron Crown]

I think Spartwo's claw solution would allow you to throttle engines mounted on rotor tips.

[JtPB]

how that was worked?

[Spartwo]

ive edited the content of the first post. realesing the rotor without an option to control it after, is not a solution.

I told you the CLAW. One vessel but it's fairly big because there's a whole apparatus to putting it in exactly the right place.

[merendel]

The video was pre .235 so back then the only stock solution was to release the rotor. It wouldnt be that hard to have the claw with its pivot unlocked to keep the rotor attached now. It would require some redesign to acomodate the claw but the funtional principles should still work.

However with the rotor berring attached you end up with another problem. A small rocket is used on the tail to counter rotation, previously you used the trottle to ballance out the spin. If your useing rockets on the blades to induce the spin mucking with the throttle will adjust both at the same time. you might have a hard time adjusting the turn rate of the roters while balancing the counterspin on the tail. It will probably require some realtime adjustment of the tail rockets tweekable throttle. Either that or redesign with lots of reaction wheels for stabalization.

[Vanamonde]

How to build helicopters is a how-to kind of a question, and so this thread has been moved to the how-to questions sub-forum.