GavinZac Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Porkjet is best jet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanml82 Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 (edited) Yeah, it just needs fleshing out. Cargo bays, more fuel tanks, various adapters.. right now, yeah, it's pretty useless. The one fuel tank doesn't hold oxidiser and there's only two other parts it can connect to sensibly.And a 1to4 adapter for engines plus some huge air intakeCome to think of it, I'd also like an MK1 triple adapter - like the 1.25 m double one but with three nodes in a single line: cockpit in the center, air intakes at the side. It can be done by clipping parts (place one adapter, put another bicoupler on either side, attach something to the node that's in line with the center, attach another bicoupler behind), but a proper part would be neater. Edited October 8, 2014 by juanml82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrike99 Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Porkjet, do you think we could see MK2 Fuselage decouplers and/or docking ports, so that we can make space planes that detach pieces?I like the idea of a detachable crew module but putting the circular decouplers on those nice sleek fuselages looks so ugly.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifeforce87 Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Porkjet, do you think we could see MK2 Fuselage decouplers and/or docking ports, so that we can make space planes that detach pieces?I like the idea of a detachable crew module but putting the circular decouplers on those nice sleek fuselages looks so ugly..Very much this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sochin Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 To the people asking about what hes working on or what COULD happen, you folks do realize that as an official Squad developer under contract, Porkjet has legal restrictions on what he can say about the kind of work that is being done.And there was me thinking that his mod was purchased and that he is not a developer. Porkjet did clearly say earlier in this thread that work was been done on longer landing gear (which has not surfaced). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReaper Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 i still want that this thread keeps alive as an addition mod to 0.25 that was just released. perhaps for the landing gear, nose cones that we were informed earlier in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboRay Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 (edited) The Mk2 cargo bay can hold 1.25.Sure... a 1.25m cylinder, so long as you don't want anything attached to the outside of it. Once you start tacking on landing legs, solar panels, batteries, lights, docking ports, etc. it rapidly becomes almost impossible to fit a 1.25m payload into that tiny bay. The Mk3-sized cargo bay can accommodate a reasonable 1.25m-based vehicle built around its desired mission profile instead of just the severe compromises required to fit it into the Mk2 bay.The Mk2 bay isn't useless... far from it. It's just a Mk3 cargo bay is dramatically more useful than a Mk2 cargo bay. Edited October 8, 2014 by RoboRay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reichtangle Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Sure... a 1.25m cylinder, so long as you don't want anything attached to the outside of it. Once you start tacking on landing legs, solar panels, batteries, lights, docking ports, etc. it rapidly becomes almost impossible to fit a 1.25m payload into that tiny bay. The Mk3-sized cargo bay can accommodate a reasonable 1.25m-based vehicle built around its desired mission profile instead of just the severe compromises required to fit it into the Mk2 bay.The Mk2 bay isn't useless... far from it. It's just a Mk3 cargo bay is dramatically more useful than a Mk2 cargo bay.Yes. And I really like Hugo's new Mk3 stuff. The Mk3 needs to be more fleshed out. And it needs to have a 6 kerbal cabin piece. With IVA of course. And Porkjet, are you going to finish the IVAs for the inline cockpit and cabin, then give them to squad to put in the next update? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OOZ662 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Are the official parts named the same way as the mod ones were? In other words, can one now just delete the old mod folder and have existing craft and their saves function properly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zxczxczbfg Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Are the official parts named the same way as the mod ones were? In other words, can one now just delete the old mod folder and have existing craft and their saves function properly?In short, no. I discovered this when my supersonic research jet was annulled by a single shock cone intake from this mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwaster Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Are the official parts named the same way as the mod ones were? In other words, can one now just delete the old mod folder and have existing craft and their saves function properly?I looked over a few of the parts and found the names to be the same. (cockpits, cargobays, a few others)However the craft files that SPP came with don't load. Says they have missing or locked parts. (and since it's sandbox, they aren't locked)Looking further, some names got changed. Minor things like a dot removed. (mk2FuselageLong.LFO renamed to mk2FuselageLongLFO, structuralWing1 renamed to structuralWing while structuralWing2 is not renamed)If you put the craft in the SPH folder and try to load it up, then bring up the debug window you can see what parts are missing because they are logged as errors. (i.e. [Error]: [shipConstruct]: Trying to load [sP+] Explorer - No AvailablePart found for mk2Fuselage.LFO)So if you rename those parts in the craft file, you can probably get them to load up but you might have to reposition some parts. YMMV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop149 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Well, that's a really stupid way to integrate a mod with the core game . . . I know lets do it in such a way that makes sure everyone already using it's craft files get screwed up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReaper Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 i didnt test it with ferram or near but in stock these new wing parts are way op.. somewings+cockpit+bi adaptor fuel tank+2 rapiers and you are in orbit, just tiny bit of fuel and you are in orbit... dafuq? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Iron Crown Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 i didnt test it with ferram or near but in stock these new wing parts are way op.. somewings+cockpit+bi adaptor fuel tank+2 rapiers and you are in orbit, just tiny bit of fuel and you are in orbit... dafuq?It's not the wings, it's the stock air-breathing engines that are OP as they only consume fuel at 1/15th the rate they should. The same design without wings would make orbit if launched vertically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeble Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 I wish we could get a optional menu to add heat shielding to the MK2 parts. Don't even get me started on the MK3 parts! Seriously there's no point in them at all for the moment. They don't really fit anything, no LFO tanks and jet/sabre engines just look weird on it without an attachment that actually fits that tapers it to a circular shape. I mean right now it's just wasting precious space.Can't wait to see what happens with DRE and Mk2 parts, hopefully someone will add heat shielding to the wings/fuselages. Hopefully they'll contract Porkjet to do a lot more parts than just a few wings. But then again, if that is the case I'm sure he'll just make another mod that adds those parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavechaser Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Look, why don't you add a Mark-2 size reaction wheels like those in B9?Or let Squad do it, since it combined into the game... ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AetherGoddess Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Look, why don't you add a Mark-2 size reaction wheels like those in B9?Or let Squad do it, since it combined into the game... ...or, you could use B9's. Or Cacteye's surface attach parts. Or literally any of the other parts. do not demand others create what you are unwilling to search for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenpsp Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 so is this mod effectively defunct? Or are there parts in SP+ that didnt go into 2.5 stock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imca Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 or, you could use B9's. Or Cacteye's surface attach parts. Or literally any of the other parts. do not demand others create what you are unwilling to search for.b9 MKII parts dont match up, there not symetrical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AetherGoddess Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 b9 MKII parts dont match up, there not symetrical. and the B9 team has already said their next release will use the new Mk2 standard from these parts. again with the demands thou. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blowfish Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Look, why don't you add a Mark-2 size reaction wheels like those in B9?Or let Squad do it, since it combined into the game... ...If you need more torque use the drone core. If you need more torque than that use another drone core. If that's still not enough then create a CFG which duplicates the drone core but swaps the actual control ability for additional torque. It's not that difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaverickSawyer Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 so is this mod effectively defunct? Or are there parts in SP+ that didnt go into 2.5 stock?Unless you want to change out the IVA, yeah, it's defunct. The only difference is the RPM MFDs in the cockpit of SP+ and the dark undersides. There's actually more parts in 0.25 stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Mirrsen Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 And the new stock cargobays are great. The bay doors have separate colliders, so they now, for instance, block engine thrust. Have a jet engine sitting in a cargobay, and its net thrust will be zero until the bay doors are open.Speaking of which. Any chance of getting a similarly made inline cargo bay door? Something to allow the cargo bay to open forward, rather than upward or downward? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reichtangle Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 I hope you have been contracted for some mk3 parts *_*That was hugo's job. And he did it well. We miss you hugo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomoo Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 So what's up with this? Looks kinda terrible compared to the SP+ clampo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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