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[1.12.X] Tantares - Stockalike Soyuz and MIR [16.1][28.05.2024][Mars Expedition WIP]

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PickledTripod

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11 hours ago, IronCretin said:

Here you go: 


// Rebalance of Cormorant Aeronology STS stack parts for rescaled systems
// Values largely based on SpaceY Lifter parts, wich are themselves based on stock values for fuel density, dry mass, etc.
// Author: PickledTripod

// ET rebalance, LF+O config only

@PART[CA_ET]
{
	@mass = 34.65
	@description = 5m tank, holds a bigly amount of fuel. For use with space shuttles.
	!MODULE[FSfuelSwitch] {}
	RESOURCE
	{
		name = LiquidFuel
		amount = 25515
		maxAmount = 25515
	}
	RESOURCE
	{
		name = Oxidizer
		amount = 31185
		maxAmount = 31185
	}
}
@PART[CA_ET_extension]
{
	@mass = 7.7
	@description = Extra fuel tank to make your shuttle stack more imposing.
	!MODULE[FSfuelSwitch] {}
	RESOURCE
	{
		name = LiquidFuel
		amount = 5670
		maxAmount = 5670
	}
	RESOURCE
	{
		name = Oxidizer
		amount = 6930
		maxAmount = 6930
	}
}
@PART[CA_ETnose]
{
	@mass = 11.55
	@description = Aerodynamic nosecone that holds some more fuel for your shuttle.
	!MODULE[FSfuelSwitch] {}
	RESOURCE
	{
		name = LiquidFuel
		amount = 5670
		maxAmount = 5670
	}
	RESOURCE
	{
		name = Oxidizer
		amount = 6930
		maxAmount = 6930
	}
}

// SRB rebalance, values directly based on the S223 2.5m SRB from SpaceY

@PART[CA_SRB4]
{
	@cost = 7200
	@mass = 27.3
	!RESOURCE {}
	RESOURCE
	{
		name = SolidFuel
		amount = 16380
		maxAmount = 16380
	}
	@MODULE[ModuleEngines*]
	{
		@heatProduction = 400
		@maxThrust = 3500
		@atmChangeFlow = False
		@useAtmCurve = False
		!atmCurve {}
		thrustCurve
		{
			key = 1.00 1.0
			key = 0.05 1.0
			key = 0.00 0.1
		} 
	}
}

// Nosecone and separator pack rebalance, more thrust and fuel to compensate for the heavier booster

@PART[CA_SRBnose]
{
	!RESOURCE {}
	RESOURCE
	{
		name = SolidFuel
		amount = 48
		maxAmount = 48
	}
	@MODULE[ModuleEngines*]
	{
		@maxThrust = 96
	}
}
@PART[CA_boosterPack]
{
	!RESOURCE {}
	RESOURCE
	{
		name = SolidFuel
		amount = 48
		maxAmount = 48
	}
	@MODULE[ModuleEngines*]
	{
		@maxThrust = 96
	}
}

 

@Z3R0_0NL1N3

You have to put the patch in GameData\Cormorant Aeronology\Patches, otherwise it's not going to work.

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Beale

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18 hours ago, Z3R0_0NL1N3 said:

I find it a little silly to redo my whole game to fix one mod, but yeah I'll take the link.

Yeah, but this is an orbital rocket:

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How do you balance against that?
The stock sizing is kind of broken, rescale and have a good time.

 

16 hours ago, Brainpop14 said:

The folders are a little confusing. I just want Mir. What do I need to keep?

Remove all folders except the one called MIR (Or it will be called Salyut if you are using an older version of Tantares).

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2 hours ago, Beale said:

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Is that a "short" Salute-1 to 4 body? It's looking not so short)
(a jackal quality photo, but it's a real Salute-1 in space)
soyuz-10_salyut.jpg

And one more thing (I'm being dull, I know it :blush:) - "long" bodies for Salute-7 and Mir are a bit different. Mir had two extra illuminators on port and starboard sides in crew cabins.
Will it be three bodies or just two for simplicity?
Or maybe an extra illuminator part? :)

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Just now, Legcutter said:

Is that a "short" Salute-1 to 4 body? It's looking not so short)
(a jackal quality photo, but it's a real Salute-1 in space)
soyuz-10_salyut.jpg

 

And one more thing (I'm being dull, I know it :blush:) - "long" bodies for Salyut-7 and Mir are a bit different. Mir had two extra illuminators on port and starboard sides in crew cabins.
Will it be three bodies or just two for simplicity?
Or maybe an extra illuminator part? :)

Hello!

I'm making separate Salyut and MIR parts, because exactly there are these kind of differences in sizing between them.

For simplicity, just two bodies, but could be re-visited in future (With Salyut 7 red stripes).

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47 minutes ago, Beale said:

Hello!

I'm making separate Salyut and MIR parts, because exactly there are these kind of differences in sizing between them.

For simplicity, just two bodies, but could be re-visited in future (With Salyut 7 red stripes).

Hi, Beale)

I was thinking - maybe it'll better be a short Salyut-1 one-illuminator body, long Mir three-illuminator body and something in the same diameter like that big monoprop tank with a side hatch from the old version of Tantares to extend short Salyut-1 body to long Salyut-6 one?

Three different parts for building three different bodies and even more.

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On 16/02/2017 at 10:52 PM, Legcutter said:

Hi, Beale)

I was thinking - maybe it'll better be a short Salyut-1 one-illuminator body, long Mir three-illuminator body and something in the same diameter like that big monoprop tank with a side hatch from the old version of Tantares to extend short Salyut-1 body to long Salyut-6 one?

Three different parts for building three different bodies and even more.

Nice ideas!

16 hours ago, Daelkyr said:

Just to let you know that your older Salyut/Mir parts are still getting some love.

Mir_MET4-05-55-05_Kerbin_ORBITING.png

That's a Buran shuttle at the bottom, lifted to orbit by the fantastic AB Launchers mod.

Awesome!
It looks like the truss should probably be wider from images, I will remake at 1.875m maybe.

There are a few more Mir-2 designs, some a lot like Space Station Freedom...

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More love for the old parts. My 1.2.2 Mir. I will be starting on rebuilding my 1.0.4 Mir-2 shortly.
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19 hours ago, Daelkyr said:

Just to let you know that your older Salyut/Mir parts are still getting some love.

Mir_MET4-05-55-05_Kerbin_ORBITING.png

That's a Buran shuttle at the bottom, lifted to orbit by the fantastic AB Launchers mod.

 

Never got the hang of planes, spaceplans or shuttles. And while I will use a few of the AB Launcher parts, I'm a fan of the N1.

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On 2/13/2017 at 6:54 PM, Beale said:

I don't understand?

Youshould be able to have both installed at the same time.

i did try to install both but old docking ports werent using correct models and textures. ill try to create a separate folder where i will have the old soyuz folder. 

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10 hours ago, CaptKordite said:

More love for the old parts. My 1.2.2 Mir. I will be starting on rebuilding my 1.0.4 Mir-2 shortly.
32125841913_c9a3f30197_z_d.jpg

 

 

Never got the hang of planes, spaceplans or shuttles. And while I will use a few of the AB Launcher parts, I'm a fan of the N1.

That's the best I've seen!

Very nice, more pictures?

8 hours ago, Jack Wolfe said:

I'll have to give one of these Freedom-esque Mir designs a try. I had the good fortune to work on the ground prototype of Freedom back when there was a real chance at funding it. :)

Tell me more!

3 hours ago, notJebKerman said:

i did try to install both but old docking ports werent using correct models and textures. ill try to create a separate folder where i will have the old soyuz folder. 

Very strange.. I will have to take a look when I have a chance.

 

 

Airlock?

This is tricky, Suggestions where to put an EVA hatch on MIR would be much appreciated.

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1 hour ago, Beale said:

Suggestions where to put an EVA hatch on MIR would be much appreciated.

Mir's airlock was on the Kvant-2 module. In KSP, I used a V-DOS-F "Smoke" module with a Contares UHC Protection Cap. It looks a lot like the end of the Kvant 2 module but not functional at that point.
kvant2_cutaway.jpg

The ISS has the Pirs Docking Compatrment. Illustrations of Mir-2 also shown the Pirs module.

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And there is also the ShM.

shm_iso_1.jpg

In all of these cases, if you could take the Contares UHC Protection Cap as a base, add a window and some handrails, and make it work as a hatch and you would have it.

Tiktaalik's Airlock Collection does this in some ways.

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2 hours ago, CaptKordite said:

Mir's airlock was on the Kvant-2 module. In KSP, I used a V-DOS-F "Smoke" module with a Contares UHC Protection Cap. It looks a lot like the end of the Kvant 2 module but not functional at that point.
kvant2_cutaway.jpg

The ISS has the Pirs Docking Compatrment. Illustrations of Mir-2 also shown the Pirs module.

1252.jpg

And there is also the ShM.

shm_iso_1.jpg

In all of these cases, if you could take the Contares UHC Protection Cap as a base, add a window and some handrails, and make it work as a hatch and you would have it.

Tiktaalik's Airlock Collection does this in some ways.

2 hours ago, Abrecan said:

Aye, Kvant 2 seems to be the only EVA Airlock with EMU onboard MIR. It wasn't til after Kristall docks to lower port where EVAs were used for the Strella and Sofora mast.

The docking node was an EVA airlock point also. Early MIR missions (before Kvant-2) used it.

@CaptKordite Nice links! The Kvant 2 airlock is great, I will have to replicate it properly this time.

For simplicity and practicality, I've added a small airlock to the core module.
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