Reichtangle Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 (edited) I have a feeling English isn't your first language so what you wrote may sound fine to you but come off wrong for other people.English is my first language. And really my only, if you don't count the little spanish and german I know.The... C-3POyuz?Hahaha. Now stop with the puns. It hurts. But I do like that color. More alt colors are needed. Bls gib. Edited September 10, 2014 by AmpsterMan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beale Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share Posted September 10, 2014 (edited) Something small that has been missing for a while, Lunniy Orbitalny Korabl components.Should sneak in an update with these parts and all the recent configs people have kindly made (Though I'm going to be a bit busy with work in the coming days).I plan the large service module and the docking mechanism.With this dedicated Lunar craft, I could reduce the Delta V of the Tantares, thoughts? Edited September 10, 2014 by Beale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Lazarus Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 wow Beale ... more and more ideas awesome ... this pack is slowly becoming a full stock-a-like russian (and mre) pack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nori Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 wow Beale ... more and more ideas awesome ... this pack is slowly becoming a full stock-a-like russian (and mre) pack So true. It is a must have pack for me these days and the best part is despite having a lot of parts its ram usage isn't too bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biohazard15 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 With this dedicated Lunar craft, I could reduce the Delta V of the Tantares, thoughts?Love the new LOK! It sounds interesting to restrict Tantares to LKO (i.e. dV of around 900 - enough for maneuvers, but not sufficient to do a Mun mission, although flyby is possible)Also, a fun Soviet Moon mission project that I found. Man, even the third stage consists of radial boosters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The14th Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 With this dedicated Lunar craft, I could reduce the Delta V of the Tantares, thoughts?I personally wouldn't be happy about that, since I regularly dock Tantares with stations in Kerbisynchronous Equatorial Orbit.Love the new LOK! It sounds interesting to restrict Tantares to LKO (i.e. dV of around 900 - enough for maneuvers, but not sufficient to do a Mun mission, although flyby is possible)I like the idea of the luna craft too, but I think dropping Tantares dV below 1000 would seriously diminish this wonderful and fun craft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biohazard15 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 I personally wouldn't be happy about that, since I regularly dock Tantares with stations in Kerbisynchronous Equatorial Orbit.I like the idea of the luna craft too, but I think dropping Tantares dV below 1000 would seriously diminish this wonderful and fun craft. Currently Tantares has 1300 m\s; reducing it to 900 won't affect its ability to reach KEO. Just use your final stage for transfer burn. Besides, real Soyuz have small dV (390 m\s for TMA; less for early versions). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The14th Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Currently Tantares has 1300 m\s; reducing it to 900 won't affect its ability to reach KEO. Just use your final stage for transfer burn. Besides, real Soyuz have small dV (390 m\s for TMA; less for early versions).I knew that was coming. Yes, the real Soyuz has considerably less dV, but that would make for a pretty boring game of KSP.Tantares is a Stockalike Soyuz and blends well with the stock game - Why would you want it to be considerably less useful (and less fun) than the equivalent stock parts?Anyway, I just hope the nerf doesn't end up being that drastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niemand303 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 With this dedicated Lunar craft, I could reduce the Delta V of the Tantares, thoughts?I think Tantares has a just right amount of DV, it may be used in nice LKO operations such as transfer from station to station (Like it was IRL with Salyut 7 and Mir) and maintenance operations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beale Posted September 11, 2014 Author Share Posted September 11, 2014 (edited) From feedback, I think Tantares Delta V will remain the same.Instead the LOK could be more capable. Capable of what, I'm not quite sure (trans-Duna travel?). Edited September 11, 2014 by Beale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ste1701 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 If somebody thinks that the Tantares should have less delta-v they could always put less fuel in the tank using the tweakables...The LOK service module looks great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kopapaka Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Tantares 7.2 test Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The14th Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 (edited) From feedback, I think Tantares Delta V will remain the same.Thank you Beale!http://puu.sh/buAaR/367a11ea17.jpgMan, this is shaping up well!These teaser images always have me looking forward to the next release! Tantares 7.2 testhttp://img13.rajce.idnes.cz/d1302/9/9855/9855668_e811471d098d0e17052ee590c2cf3157/images/screenshot48.jpg?ver=0Nice! Edited September 11, 2014 by The14th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beale Posted September 11, 2014 Author Share Posted September 11, 2014 If somebody thinks that the Tantares should have less delta-v they could always put less fuel in the tank using the tweakables...The LOK service module looks great!Thanks! Tantares 7.2 testhttp://img13.rajce.idnes.cz/d1302/9/9855/9855668_e811471d098d0e17052ee590c2cf3157/images/screenshot8_1.jpg?ver=0http://img13.rajce.idnes.cz/d1302/9/9855/9855668_e811471d098d0e17052ee590c2cf3157/images/screenshot24_1.jpg?ver=0http://img13.rajce.idnes.cz/d1302/9/9855/9855668_e811471d098d0e17052ee590c2cf3157/images/screenshot27_2.jpg?ver=0http://img13.rajce.idnes.cz/d1302/9/9855/9855668_e811471d098d0e17052ee590c2cf3157/images/screenshot30.jpg?ver=0http://img13.rajce.idnes.cz/d1302/9/9855/9855668_e811471d098d0e17052ee590c2cf3157/images/screenshot33.jpg?ver=0http://img13.rajce.idnes.cz/d1302/9/9855/9855668_e811471d098d0e17052ee590c2cf3157/images/screenshot48.jpg?ver=0Your creations always impress me! To think that SSTO can lift all that to orbit is crazy.TST "Farshot" Engine.Similar ISP to normal Tantares Engine, slightly higher thrust.Roughly double the fuel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The14th Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 TST "Farshot" Engine.Similar ISP to normal Tantares Engine, slightly higher thrust.Roughly double the fuel.http://puu.sh/buFqF/b54ff74794.jpgVery nice indeed! I really like the texture of the beige ring part that surrounds the engine (Sorry, I don't know what that parts called!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beale Posted September 11, 2014 Author Share Posted September 11, 2014 Very nice indeed! I really like the texture of the beige ring part that surrounds the engine (Sorry, I don't know what that parts called!)Haha thanks!(I have no idea on the name either, some kind of foil blanket, based of this )Anyway, it is fairly capable. I believe it could get into Jool orbit, with aerobraking.Too overpowered?(The generate slowly consumes LF/OX to produce electricity when active, so your Delta V is always "ticking" down) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The14th Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 (edited) ...I have no idea on the name either, some kind of foil blanket...Haha, I'm happy to refer to it as the "soft bit" Anyway, it is fairly capable. I believe it could get into Jool orbit, with aerobraking.Too overpowered?(The generate slowly consumes LF/OX to produce electricity when active, so your Delta V is always "ticking" down)Personally, seems fine to me!I could semi-randomly choose a stock LF tank and a mid-tech stock engine, and get the same dV (if not more) - so I would argue that it is not overpowered, but in line with stock. Hell, if you visit the Spacecraft Exchange Forum you will see plenty of stock SSTO spaceplanes that arrive in orbit with more dV than this.Rather than seeing it as being capable of interplanetary travel in KSP's shrunken star system, I prefer to see it as capable of operations between Minmus or the Mun, and spacestations before needing to be refuelled. Sounds like fun to me!Plus I like the electric generator idea - that adds a neat dV cost over time.Other people may have different opinions though! Edited September 11, 2014 by The14th typos! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwayne1930 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 (edited) Thanks! Your creations always impress me! To think that SSTO can lift all that to orbit is crazy.TST "Farshot" Engine.Similar ISP to normal Tantares Engine, slightly higher thrust.Roughly double the fuel.http://puu.sh/buFpm/a2edc3c736.jpghttp://puu.sh/buFqe/91503256bb.jpghttp://puu.sh/buFqF/b54ff74794.jpghttp://puu.sh/buFr9/8892ae07c7.jpgAnyway, it is fairly capable. I believe it could get into Jool orbit, with aerobraking.Too overpowered?Bigger Engine is always good!And thats a nice new texture variant too. Edited September 11, 2014 by johnwayne1930 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The14th Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 (edited) thats a nice new texture variant too. That too!I'm sort of torn. I like the "Lego" frame of mind mentioned in the OP, and the way the stock textures mix with my other parts.But at the same time, these alternative textures are so cool! Edited September 11, 2014 by The14th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacestorm Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 New engine is looking very good!Also it seems fine to me that you decided to raise its dV rather than lowering Tantares capabilities. This creates new possibilities to use both old and new engine.I agree with The14th - the electric generator is a good solution to keep everything balanced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZodiaK Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 checking in to say that the farshot looks amazing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reichtangle Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 (edited) Anyway, it is fairly capable. I believe it could get into Jool orbit, with aerobraking.Too overpowered?(The generate slowly consumes LF/OX to produce electricity when active, so your Delta V is always "ticking" down)It doesn't say it on the interwebs what the D/V is for the LOK, so I really have no idea. And as for the generators, we have no liquid hydrogen or oxygen, so what else are we gonna use? Keep up the good work with your extra-modular parts. Edited September 11, 2014 by Reichtangle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beale Posted September 11, 2014 Author Share Posted September 11, 2014 New engine is looking very good!Also it seems fine to me that you decided to raise its dV rather than lowering Tantares capabilities. This creates new possibilities to use both old and new engine.I agree with The14th - the electric generator is a good solution to keep everything balanced.Bigger Engine is always good!And thats a nice new texture variant too. Haha, I'm happy to refer to it as the "soft bit" Personally, seems fine to me!I could semi-randomly choose a stock LF tank and a mid-tech stock engine, and get the same dV (if not more) - so I would argue that it is not overpowered, but in line with stock. Hell, if you visit the Spacecraft Exchange Forum you will see plenty of stock SSTO spaceplanes that arrive in orbit with more dV than this.Rather than seeing it as being capable of interplanetary travel in KSP's shrunken star system, I prefer to see it as capable of operations between Minmus or the Mun, and spacestations before needing to be refuelled. Sounds like fun to me!Plus I like the electric generator idea - that adds a neat dV cost over time.Other people may have different opinions though!checking in to say that the farshot looks amazing!Many thanks!After some tests, the generator works out pretty well.The consumption rate is fine for short week long missions around the Mun and Minmus, but go farther out and you'll start to get serious "boil-off" as the fuel is burnt up for power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGatsby Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Cool service module! Normally I like to make my own (my own SM with trans-Munar booster: http://imgur.com/c1jfqRK), but this Farshot is really interesting. I especially like the generator function. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacestorm Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 After some tests, the generator works out pretty well.The consumption rate is fine for short week long missions around the Mun and Minmus, but go farther out and you'll start to get serious "boil-off" as the fuel is burnt up for power.One question about generator - will it be togglable? Or just one shot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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