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Dr. Jet

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Hi, today I tried this beautiful mod for the first time. I have an issue with the parts. They works correctly, but they are completely messed up in the editor. I found engines in Control&Command and other parts all around in the editor.

Is it a know issue?

Engines? Apart from jets and aerospike resizes (under "Engines"), the only part with engines in ChopShop is SkyCrane and it should be properly located under "Pods", since it's a kind of integrated probe system. Engines under "C&C" must be a result of some third-party MM configs. SETI modpack is OK, it supports my mod fine. Should be something else, I'm unaware of.

- - - Updated - - -

Note that in the description please.

I will try to make some RemoteTech configs for probes to work properly, but I can't promise anything.

What the problem is exactly?

Rover bodies and SkyCranes should get integrated omnis from RT stock config, as it changes ALL the probes. DAS-1 and Nose Dronecone are configured to have proper RT antennas, other parts should not have RT configs at all.

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Update 0.7.2

- New LTS-2 landing tank system.

- Fixed RemoteTech support.

- Few minor bugfixes.

tPARaAi.jpg

Upper stage consists of toroidal tank and capsule tank.

Lower stage consists of 8 capsule tanks and legs mounting railings.

Pretty good for landing/returning Mk2 Lander Can anywhere except Eve and Tylo.

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Shrunken RTG Rover body? Very strange. Right now I see the same weirdness, though neither model nor size config haven't been changed since october 2014.

Fast patch:

1) go to /GameData/ChopShop/Rovers/RTGRover/RTGrover.cfg

2) comment out or delete line "rescaleFactor = 1"

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Hey Dr. Jet, I've got a patch for you to support AntennaRange:


@PART[DAS1]:NEEDS[AntennaRange]
{
    @MODULE[ModuleDataTransmitter]
    {
        @name = ModuleLimitedDataTransmitter
        nominalRange = 5500000
        maxPowerFactor = 8
        maxDataFactor = 4
    }

    MODULE
    {
        name = ModuleScienceContainer

        dataIsCollectable = true
        dataIsStorable = false

        storageRange = 2
    }
}

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Science container in antenna? What a weird, weird thing... I'm not sure I want to support it.

Is there any reason of actually using AR instead of making proper relay networks with RT?

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The science container enables relay functionality. As I understand it, dataIsCollectible =true allows data to live in it, but dataIsStorable = false prevents it from being used by astronauts on EVA the way that they can store data in pods and labs. Also,

implying that AntennaRange doesn't do proper relay networks

Feast your eyes:

wHT8bns.png

(The yellow line is my current probe's connection to the probe on the opposite side of Kerbin, because it's landed on the wrong side of the Mun from the other satellites orbiting the Mun at the moment -- they're all busy doing other things and can't be put in their communication orbits yet.)

If I wanted to play "Communication Satellite Network Manager Simulator 2015", I'd go to work. ;) My reason for using AntennaRange is that it makes building relay networks worthwhile, without requiring the micromanagement that RemoteTech does.

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Hey Jet,

i just experienced some strange behaviour of the skycrane(s),

for some reason their thrust is not going directly upwards, but in a kind of diagonal way.

Is that just me or why is that?

Could you fix that, please?

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Hey Jet, i just experienced some strange behaviour of the skycrane(s), for some reason their thrust is not going directly upwards, but in a kind of diagonal way.

Is that just me or why is that?

You make me sad. I put a lot of effort into that big bold red warning on the skycrane arms... ;.;

"DEPLOY BEFORE USE!" refers to RCSBuildAid also. You must deploy the skycrane in VAB to see both engines and exhaust vectors point down and thrust vector point up. Same for MechJeb and KER - they won't calculate dV for undeployed skycrane.

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One little suggestion what will be good to adjust on page description & future pack description:

- Your mod not only support MM / TweakScale / RemoteTech / F.A.R. / Modular Fuel Tank & Real Fuels it DEMAND to be have it REQUIRE / YELL to have it coz is a difference between support (my be have) & need

This are few module what are extract from game log what appear like NEED (Must have) [RealFuels] [WarpPlugin] [RemoteTech] [TweakScale][FerramAerospaceResearch] [ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels][RASTERPROPMONITOR]

[LOG 14:17:17.160] Config(@PART[sPPTricoupler]:NEEDS[FerramAerospaceResearch]:Final) ChopShop/ModuleManager/FAR/@PART[sPPTricoupler]:NEEDS[FerramAerospaceResearch]:Final

[LOG 14:17:17.161] Config(@PART[sPPWideTricoupler]:NEEDS[FerramAerospaceResearch]:Final) ChopShop/ModuleManager/FAR/@PART[sPPWideTricoupler]:NEEDS[FerramAerospaceResearch]:Final

[LOG 14:17:17.162] Config(@PART[sPPQuadcoupler]:NEEDS[FerramAerospaceResearch]:Final) ChopShop/ModuleManager/FAR/@PART[sPPQuadcoupler]:NEEDS[FerramAerospaceResearch]:Final

[LOG 14:17:17.162] Config(@PART[sPPQuintcoupler]:NEEDS[FerramAerospaceResearch]:Final) ChopShop/ModuleManager/FAR/@PART[sPPQuintcoupler]:NEEDS[FerramAerospaceResearch]:Final

[LOG 14:17:17.163] Config(@PART[sPPSize2coupler]:NEEDS[FerramAerospaceResearch]:Final) ChopShop/ModuleManager/FAR/@PART[sPPSize2coupler]:NEEDS[FerramAerospaceResearch]:Final

[LOG 14:17:17.164] Config(@PART[sPPDroneNosecone]:NEEDS[FerramAerospaceResearch]:Final) ChopShop/ModuleManager/FAR/@PART[sPPDroneNosecone]:NEEDS[FerramAerospaceResearch]:Final

[LOG 14:17:17.165] Config(@PART[sPPIntakeNosecone]:NEEDS[FerramAerospaceResearch]:Final) ChopShop/ModuleManager/FAR/@PART[sPPIntakeNosecone]:NEEDS[FerramAerospaceResearch]:Final

[LOG 14:17:17.166] Config(@PART[sPPWideTricoupler]:NEEDS[WarpPlugin]) ChopShop/ModuleManager/KSPI/@PART[sPPWideTricoupler]:NEEDS[WarpPlugin]

[LOG 14:17:17.166] Config(@PART[sPPSize2coupler]:NEEDS[WarpPlugin]) ChopShop/ModuleManager/KSPI/@PART[sPPSize2coupler]:NEEDS[WarpPlugin]

[LOG 14:17:17.167] Config(@PART[LTS1_core]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]) ChopShop/ModuleManager/MFT&RF/@PART[LTS1_core]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]

[LOG 14:17:17.168] Config(@PART[LTS1_side]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]) ChopShop/ModuleManager/MFT&RF/@PART[LTS1_side]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]

[LOG 14:17:17.169] Config(@PART[LTS05_core]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]) ChopShop/ModuleManager/MFT&RF/@PART[LTS05_core]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]

[LOG 14:17:17.169] Config(@PART[LTS05_side]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]) ChopShop/ModuleManager/MFT&RF/@PART[LTS05_side]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]

[LOG 14:17:17.170] Config(@PART[sPPTricoupler]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]) ChopShop/ModuleManager/MFT&RF/@PART[sPPTricoupler]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]

[LOG 14:17:17.171] Config(@PART[sPPWideTricoupler]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]) ChopShop/ModuleManager/MFT&RF/@PART[sPPWideTricoupler]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]

[LOG 14:17:17.172] Config(@PART[sPPQuadcoupler]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]) ChopShop/ModuleManager/MFT&RF/@PART[sPPQuadcoupler]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]

[LOG 14:17:17.172] Config(@PART[sPPQuintcoupler]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]) ChopShop/ModuleManager/MFT&RF/@PART[sPPQuintcoupler]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]

[LOG 14:17:17.173] Config(@PART[sPPSize2coupler]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]) ChopShop/ModuleManager/MFT&RF/@PART[sPPSize2coupler]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]

[LOG 14:17:17.174] Config(@PART[LTS*_core]:NEEDS[RealFuels]) ChopShop/ModuleManager/MFT&RF/@PART[LTS*_core]:NEEDS[RealFuels]

[LOG 14:17:17.175] Config(@PART[LTS*_side]:NEEDS[RealFuels]) ChopShop/ModuleManager/MFT&RF/@PART[LTS*_side]:NEEDS[RealFuels]

[LOG 14:17:17.175] Config(@PART[sPPDroneNosecone]:NEEDS[RemoteTech]:Final) ChopShop/ModuleManager/RemoteTech/@PART[sPPDroneNosecone]:NEEDS[RemoteTech]:Final

[LOG 14:17:17.176] Config(@PART[DAS1]:NEEDS[RemoteTech]) ChopShop/ModuleManager/RemoteTech/@PART[DAS1]:NEEDS[RemoteTech]

[LOG 14:17:17.177] Config(@PART[dskycrane_mk1]:NEEDS[RemoteTech]) ChopShop/ModuleManager/RemoteTech/@PART[dskycrane_mk1]:NEEDS[RemoteTech]

[LOG 14:17:17.177] Config(@PART[dskycrane_mk2]:NEEDS[RemoteTech]) ChopShop/ModuleManager/RemoteTech/@PART[dskycrane_mk2]:NEEDS[RemoteTech]

[LOG 14:17:17.178] Config(@PART[RtgRoverBody]:NEEDS[RemoteTech]) ChopShop/ModuleManager/RemoteTech/@PART[RtgRoverBody]:NEEDS[RemoteTech]

[LOG 14:17:17.179] Config(@PART[RuggedRoverBody]:NEEDS[RemoteTech]) ChopShop/ModuleManager/RemoteTech/@PART[RuggedRoverBody]:NEEDS[RemoteTech]

[LOG 14:17:17.179] Config(@PART[roverBodyXL]:AFTER[ChopShop]:NEEDS[RemoteTech]) ChopShop/ModuleManager/RemoteTech/@PART[roverBodyXL]:AFTER[ChopShop]:NEEDS[RemoteTech]

[LOG 14:17:17.180] Config(@PART[dskycrane*]:NEEDS[RealFuels]) ChopShop/ModuleManager/RF_engines/@PART[dskycrane*]:NEEDS[RealFuels]

[LOG 14:17:17.198] Config(@PART[sPPDroneNosecone]:NEEDS[RASTERPROPMONITOR]) ChopShop/Structural/SPP/drone_nosecone/@PART[sPPDroneNosecone]:NEEDS[RASTERPROPMONITOR]

[LOG 14:17:17.201] Config(@PART[sPPWideTricoupler]:NEEDS[WarpPlugin]) ChopShop/Structural/SPP/quint/@PART[sPPWideTricoupler]:NEEDS[WarpPlugin]

[LOG 14:17:17.986] Config(@PART[LTS1_core]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]) ModularFuelTanks/ChopShop/@PART[LTS1_core]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]

[LOG 14:17:17.987] Config(@PART[LTS1_side]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]) ModularFuelTanks/ChopShop/@PART[LTS1_side]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]

[LOG 14:17:17.988] Config(@PART[LTS05_core]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]) ModularFuelTanks/ChopShop/@PART[LTS05_core]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]

[LOG 14:17:17.989] Config(@PART[LTS05_side]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]) ModularFuelTanks/ChopShop/@PART[LTS05_side]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]

[LOG 14:17:17.989] Config(@PART[sPPTricoupler]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]) ModularFuelTanks/ChopShop/@PART[sPPTricoupler]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]

[LOG 14:17:17.990] Config(@PART[sPPWideTricoupler]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]) ModularFuelTanks/ChopShop/@PART[sPPWideTricoupler]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]

[LOG 14:17:17.991] Config(@PART[sPPQuadcoupler]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]) ModularFuelTanks/ChopShop/@PART[sPPQuadcoupler]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]

[LOG 14:17:17.992] Config(@PART[sPPQuintcoupler]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]) ModularFuelTanks/ChopShop/@PART[sPPQuintcoupler]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]

[LOG 14:17:17.993] Config(@PART[sPPSize2coupler]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]) ModularFuelTanks/ChopShop/@PART[sPPSize2coupler]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]

[LOG 14:17:17.993] Config(@PART[LTS*_core]:NEEDS[RealFuels]) ModularFuelTanks/ChopShop/@PART[LTS*_core]:NEEDS[RealFuels]

[LOG 14:17:17.994] Config(@PART[LTS*_side]:NEEDS[RealFuels]) ModularFuelTanks/ChopShop/@PART[LTS*_side]:NEEDS[RealFuels]

[LOG 14:17:18.699] Config(!PART[AeroBlister2]:NEEDS[TweakScale]:FINAL) TweakScale/patches/ChopShop_TweakScale/!PART[AeroBlister2]:NEEDS[TweakScale]:FINAL

[LOG 14:17:18.700] Config(!PART[AeroBlisterDecoupler2]:NEEDS[TweakScale]:FINAL) TweakScale/patches/ChopShop_TweakScale/!PART[AeroBlisterDecoupler2]:NEEDS[TweakScale]:FINAL

[LOG 14:17:18.701] Config(@PART[AeroBlister]:NEEDS[TweakScale]:FINAL) TweakScale/patches/ChopShop_TweakScale/@PART[AeroBlister]:NEEDS[TweakScale]:FINAL

[LOG 14:17:18.702] Config(@PART[AeroBlisterDecoupler]:NEEDS[TweakScale]:FINAL) TweakScale/patches/ChopShop_TweakScale/@PART[AeroBlisterDecoupler]:NEEDS[TweakScale]:FINAL

[LOG 14:17:18.703] Config(!PART[adapter_aerospike_small]:NEEDS[TweakScale]:FINAL) TweakScale/patches/ChopShop_TweakScale/!PART[adapter_aerospike_small]:NEEDS[TweakScale]:FINAL

[LOG 14:17:18.703] Config(@PART[adapter_aerospike]:NEEDS[TweakScale]:FINAL) TweakScale/patches/ChopShop_TweakScale/@PART[adapter_aerospike]:NEEDS[TweakScale]:FINAL

[LOG 14:17:18.704] Config(!PART[sSP_mk1_125]:NEEDS[TweakScale]:FINAL) TweakScale/patches/ChopShop_TweakScale/!PART[sSP_mk1_125]:NEEDS[TweakScale]:FINAL

[LOG 14:17:18.705] Config(@PART[sSP_mk1]:NEEDS[TweakScale]) TweakScale/patches/ChopShop_TweakScale/@PART[sSP_mk1]:NEEDS[TweakScale]

[LOG 14:17:18.706] Config(!PART[dskycrane_mk2]:NEEDS[TweakScale,!RealFuels]:FINAL) TweakScale/patches/ChopShop_TweakScale/!PART[dskycrane_mk2]:NEEDS[TweakScale,!RealFuels]:FINAL

[LOG 14:17:18.707] Config(@PART[dskycrane_mk1]:NEEDS[TweakScale,!RealFuels]:FINAL) TweakScale/patches/ChopShop_TweakScale/@PART[dskycrane_mk1]:NEEDS[TweakScale,!RealFuels]:FINAL

[LOG 14:17:24.899] [ModuleManager] Deleting Node in file ChopShop/ModuleManager/KSPI subnode: @PART[sPPWideTricoupler]:NEEDS[WarpPlugin] as it can't satisfy its NEEDS

[LOG 14:17:24.900] [ModuleManager] Deleting Node in file ChopShop/ModuleManager/KSPI subnode: @PART[sPPSize2coupler]:NEEDS[WarpPlugin] as it can't satisfy its NEEDS

[LOG 14:17:24.901] [ModuleManager] Deleting Node in file ChopShop/ModuleManager/MFT&RF subnode: @PART[LTS*_core]:NEEDS[RealFuels] as it can't satisfy its NEEDS

[LOG 14:17:24.901] [ModuleManager] Deleting Node in file ChopShop/ModuleManager/MFT&RF subnode: @PART[LTS*_side]:NEEDS[RealFuels] as it can't satisfy its NEEDS

[LOG 14:17:24.902] [ModuleManager] Deleting Node in file ChopShop/ModuleManager/RemoteTech subnode: @PART[sPPDroneNosecone]:NEEDS[RemoteTech]:Final as it can't satisfy its NEEDS

[LOG 14:17:24.903] [ModuleManager] Deleting Node in file ChopShop/ModuleManager/RemoteTech subnode: @PART[DAS1]:NEEDS[RemoteTech] as it can't satisfy its NEEDS

[LOG 14:17:24.904] [ModuleManager] Deleting Node in file ChopShop/ModuleManager/RemoteTech subnode: @PART[dskycrane_mk1]:NEEDS[RemoteTech] as it can't satisfy its NEEDS

[LOG 14:17:24.905] [ModuleManager] Deleting Node in file ChopShop/ModuleManager/RemoteTech subnode: @PART[dskycrane_mk2]:NEEDS[RemoteTech] as it can't satisfy its NEEDS

[LOG 14:17:24.905] [ModuleManager] Deleting Node in file ChopShop/ModuleManager/RemoteTech subnode: @PART[RtgRoverBody]:NEEDS[RemoteTech] as it can't satisfy its NEEDS

[LOG 14:17:24.906] [ModuleManager] Deleting Node in file ChopShop/ModuleManager/RemoteTech subnode: @PART[RuggedRoverBody]:NEEDS[RemoteTech] as it can't satisfy its NEEDS

[LOG 14:17:24.907] [ModuleManager] Deleting Node in file ChopShop/ModuleManager/RemoteTech subnode: @PART[roverBodyXL]:AFTER[ChopShop]:NEEDS[RemoteTech] as it can't satisfy its NEEDS

[LOG 14:17:24.908] [ModuleManager] Deleting Node in file ChopShop/ModuleManager/RF_engines subnode: @PART[dskycrane*]:NEEDS[RealFuels] as it can't satisfy its NEEDS

[LOG 14:17:24.910] [ModuleManager] Deleting Node in file ChopShop/Structural/SPP/quint subnode: @PART[sPPWideTricoupler]:NEEDS[WarpPlugin] as it can't satisfy its NEEDS

[LOG 14:17:25.338] [ModuleManager] Deleting Node in file ModularFuelTanks/ChopShop subnode: @PART[LTS*_core]:NEEDS[RealFuels] as it can't satisfy its NEEDS

[LOG 14:17:25.339] [ModuleManager] Deleting Node in file ModularFuelTanks/ChopShop subnode: @PART[LTS*_side]:NEEDS[RealFuels] as it can't satisfy its NEEDS

Config(@PART[sPPTricoupler]:NEEDS[FerramAerospaceResearch]:Final) ChopShop/ModuleManager/FAR/@PART[sPPTricoupler]:NEEDS[FerramAerospaceResearch]:Final

Config(@PART[sPPWideTricoupler]:NEEDS[FerramAerospaceResearch]:Final) ChopShop/ModuleManager/FAR/@PART[sPPWideTricoupler]:NEEDS[FerramAerospaceResearch]:Final

Config(@PART[sPPQuadcoupler]:NEEDS[FerramAerospaceResearch]:Final) ChopShop/ModuleManager/FAR/@PART[sPPQuadcoupler]:NEEDS[FerramAerospaceResearch]:Final

Config(@PART[sPPQuintcoupler]:NEEDS[FerramAerospaceResearch]:Final) ChopShop/ModuleManager/FAR/@PART[sPPQuintcoupler]:NEEDS[FerramAerospaceResearch]:Final

Config(@PART[sPPSize2coupler]:NEEDS[FerramAerospaceResearch]:Final) ChopShop/ModuleManager/FAR/@PART[sPPSize2coupler]:NEEDS[FerramAerospaceResearch]:Final

Config(@PART[sPPDroneNosecone]:NEEDS[FerramAerospaceResearch]:Final) ChopShop/ModuleManager/FAR/@PART[sPPDroneNosecone]:NEEDS[FerramAerospaceResearch]:Final

Config(@PART[sPPIntakeNosecone]:NEEDS[FerramAerospaceResearch]:Final) ChopShop/ModuleManager/FAR/@PART[sPPIntakeNosecone]:NEEDS[FerramAerospaceResearch]:Final

Config(@PART[sPPWideTricoupler]:NEEDS[WarpPlugin]) ChopShop/ModuleManager/KSPI/@PART[sPPWideTricoupler]:NEEDS[WarpPlugin]

Config(@PART[sPPSize2coupler]:NEEDS[WarpPlugin]) ChopShop/ModuleManager/KSPI/@PART[sPPSize2coupler]:NEEDS[WarpPlugin]

Config(@PART[LTS1_core]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]) ChopShop/ModuleManager/MFT&RF/@PART[LTS1_core]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]

Config(@PART[LTS1_side]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]) ChopShop/ModuleManager/MFT&RF/@PART[LTS1_side]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]

Config(@PART[LTS05_core]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]) ChopShop/ModuleManager/MFT&RF/@PART[LTS05_core]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]

Config(@PART[LTS05_side]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]) ChopShop/ModuleManager/MFT&RF/@PART[LTS05_side]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]

Config(@PART[sPPTricoupler]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]) ChopShop/ModuleManager/MFT&RF/@PART[sPPTricoupler]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]

Config(@PART[sPPWideTricoupler]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]) ChopShop/ModuleManager/MFT&RF/@PART[sPPWideTricoupler]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]

Config(@PART[sPPQuadcoupler]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]) ChopShop/ModuleManager/MFT&RF/@PART[sPPQuadcoupler]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]

Config(@PART[sPPQuintcoupler]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]) ChopShop/ModuleManager/MFT&RF/@PART[sPPQuintcoupler]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]

Config(@PART[sPPSize2coupler]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]) ChopShop/ModuleManager/MFT&RF/@PART[sPPSize2coupler]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]

Config(@PART[LTS*_core]:NEEDS[RealFuels]) ChopShop/ModuleManager/MFT&RF/@PART[LTS*_core]:NEEDS[RealFuels]

Config(@PART[LTS*_side]:NEEDS[RealFuels]) ChopShop/ModuleManager/MFT&RF/@PART[LTS*_side]:NEEDS[RealFuels]

Config(@PART[sPPDroneNosecone]:NEEDS[RemoteTech]:Final) ChopShop/ModuleManager/RemoteTech/@PART[sPPDroneNosecone]:NEEDS[RemoteTech]:Final

Config(@PART[DAS1]:NEEDS[RemoteTech]) ChopShop/ModuleManager/RemoteTech/@PART[DAS1]:NEEDS[RemoteTech]

Config(@PART[dskycrane_mk1]:NEEDS[RemoteTech]) ChopShop/ModuleManager/RemoteTech/@PART[dskycrane_mk1]:NEEDS[RemoteTech]

Config(@PART[dskycrane_mk2]:NEEDS[RemoteTech]) ChopShop/ModuleManager/RemoteTech/@PART[dskycrane_mk2]:NEEDS[RemoteTech]

Config(@PART[RtgRoverBody]:NEEDS[RemoteTech]) ChopShop/ModuleManager/RemoteTech/@PART[RtgRoverBody]:NEEDS[RemoteTech]

Config(@PART[RuggedRoverBody]:NEEDS[RemoteTech]) ChopShop/ModuleManager/RemoteTech/@PART[RuggedRoverBody]:NEEDS[RemoteTech]

Config(@PART[roverBodyXL]:AFTER[ChopShop]:NEEDS[RemoteTech]) ChopShop/ModuleManager/RemoteTech/@PART[roverBodyXL]:AFTER[ChopShop]:NEEDS[RemoteTech]

Config(@PART[dskycrane*]:NEEDS[RealFuels]) ChopShop/ModuleManager/RF_engines/@PART[dskycrane*]:NEEDS[RealFuels]

Config(@PART[sPPDroneNosecone]:NEEDS[RASTERPROPMONITOR]) ChopShop/Structural/SPP/drone_nosecone/@PART[sPPDroneNosecone]:NEEDS[RASTERPROPMONITOR]

Config(@PART[sPPWideTricoupler]:NEEDS[WarpPlugin]) ChopShop/Structural/SPP/quint/@PART[sPPWideTricoupler]:NEEDS[WarpPlugin]

Config(@PART[LTS1_core]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]) ModularFuelTanks/ChopShop/@PART[LTS1_core]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]

Config(@PART[LTS1_side]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]) ModularFuelTanks/ChopShop/@PART[LTS1_side]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]

Config(@PART[LTS05_core]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]) ModularFuelTanks/ChopShop/@PART[LTS05_core]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]

Config(@PART[LTS05_side]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]) ModularFuelTanks/ChopShop/@PART[LTS05_side]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]

Config(@PART[sPPTricoupler]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]) ModularFuelTanks/ChopShop/@PART[sPPTricoupler]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]

Config(@PART[sPPWideTricoupler]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]) ModularFuelTanks/ChopShop/@PART[sPPWideTricoupler]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]

Config(@PART[sPPQuadcoupler]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]) ModularFuelTanks/ChopShop/@PART[sPPQuadcoupler]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]

Config(@PART[sPPQuintcoupler]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]) ModularFuelTanks/ChopShop/@PART[sPPQuintcoupler]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]

Config(@PART[sPPSize2coupler]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]) ModularFuelTanks/ChopShop/@PART[sPPSize2coupler]:NEEDS[ModularFuelTanks|RealFuels]

Config(@PART[LTS*_core]:NEEDS[RealFuels]) ModularFuelTanks/ChopShop/@PART[LTS*_core]:NEEDS[RealFuels]

Config(@PART[LTS*_side]:NEEDS[RealFuels]) ModularFuelTanks/ChopShop/@PART[LTS*_side]:NEEDS[RealFuels]

Config(!PART[AeroBlister2]:NEEDS[TweakScale]:FINAL) TweakScale/patches/ChopShop_TweakScale/!PART[AeroBlister2]:NEEDS[TweakScale]:FINAL

Config(!PART[AeroBlisterDecoupler2]:NEEDS[TweakScale]:FINAL) TweakScale/patches/ChopShop_TweakScale/!PART[AeroBlisterDecoupler2]:NEEDS[TweakScale]:FINAL

Config(@PART[AeroBlister]:NEEDS[TweakScale]:FINAL) TweakScale/patches/ChopShop_TweakScale/@PART[AeroBlister]:NEEDS[TweakScale]:FINAL

Config(@PART[AeroBlisterDecoupler]:NEEDS[TweakScale]:FINAL) TweakScale/patches/ChopShop_TweakScale/@PART[AeroBlisterDecoupler]:NEEDS[TweakScale]:FINAL

Config(!PART[adapter_aerospike_small]:NEEDS[TweakScale]:FINAL) TweakScale/patches/ChopShop_TweakScale/!PART[adapter_aerospike_small]:NEEDS[TweakScale]:FINAL

Config(@PART[adapter_aerospike]:NEEDS[TweakScale]:FINAL) TweakScale/patches/ChopShop_TweakScale/@PART[adapter_aerospike]:NEEDS[TweakScale]:FINAL

Config(!PART[sSP_mk1_125]:NEEDS[TweakScale]:FINAL) TweakScale/patches/ChopShop_TweakScale/!PART[sSP_mk1_125]:NEEDS[TweakScale]:FINAL

Config(@PART[sSP_mk1]:NEEDS[TweakScale]) TweakScale/patches/ChopShop_TweakScale/@PART[sSP_mk1]:NEEDS[TweakScale]

Config(!PART[dskycrane_mk2]:NEEDS[TweakScale,!RealFuels]:FINAL) TweakScale/patches/ChopShop_TweakScale/!PART[dskycrane_mk2]:NEEDS[TweakScale,!RealFuels]:FINAL

Config(@PART[dskycrane_mk1]:NEEDS[TweakScale,!RealFuels]:FINAL) TweakScale/patches/ChopShop_TweakScale/@PART[dskycrane_mk1]:NEEDS[TweakScale,!RealFuels]:FINAL

[ModuleManager] Deleting Node in file ChopShop/ModuleManager/KSPI subnode: @PART[sPPWideTricoupler]:NEEDS[WarpPlugin] as it can't satisfy its NEEDS

[ModuleManager] Deleting Node in file ChopShop/ModuleManager/KSPI subnode: @PART[sPPSize2coupler]:NEEDS[WarpPlugin] as it can't satisfy its NEEDS

[ModuleManager] Deleting Node in file ChopShop/ModuleManager/MFT&RF subnode: @PART[LTS*_core]:NEEDS[RealFuels] as it can't satisfy its NEEDS

[ModuleManager] Deleting Node in file ChopShop/ModuleManager/MFT&RF subnode: @PART[LTS*_side]:NEEDS[RealFuels] as it can't satisfy its NEEDS

[ModuleManager] Deleting Node in file ChopShop/ModuleManager/RemoteTech subnode: @PART[sPPDroneNosecone]:NEEDS[RemoteTech]:Final as it can't satisfy its NEEDS

[ModuleManager] Deleting Node in file ChopShop/ModuleManager/RemoteTech subnode: @PART[DAS1]:NEEDS[RemoteTech] as it can't satisfy its NEEDS

[ModuleManager] Deleting Node in file ChopShop/ModuleManager/RemoteTech subnode: @PART[dskycrane_mk1]:NEEDS[RemoteTech] as it can't satisfy its NEEDS

[ModuleManager] Deleting Node in file ChopShop/ModuleManager/RemoteTech subnode: @PART[dskycrane_mk2]:NEEDS[RemoteTech] as it can't satisfy its NEEDS

[ModuleManager] Deleting Node in file ChopShop/ModuleManager/RemoteTech subnode: @PART[RtgRoverBody]:NEEDS[RemoteTech] as it can't satisfy its NEEDS

[ModuleManager] Deleting Node in file ChopShop/ModuleManager/RemoteTech subnode: @PART[RuggedRoverBody]:NEEDS[RemoteTech] as it can't satisfy its NEEDS

[ModuleManager] Deleting Node in file ChopShop/ModuleManager/RemoteTech subnode: @PART[roverBodyXL]:AFTER[ChopShop]:NEEDS[RemoteTech] as it can't satisfy its NEEDS

[ModuleManager] Deleting Node in file ChopShop/ModuleManager/RF_engines subnode: @PART[dskycrane*]:NEEDS[RealFuels] as it can't satisfy its NEEDS

[ModuleManager] Deleting Node in file ChopShop/Structural/SPP/quint subnode: @PART[sPPWideTricoupler]:NEEDS[WarpPlugin] as it can't satisfy its NEEDS

[ModuleManager] Deleting Node in file ModularFuelTanks/ChopShop subnode: @PART[LTS*_core]:NEEDS[RealFuels] as it can't satisfy its NEEDS

[ModuleManager] Deleting Node in file ModularFuelTanks/ChopShop subnode: @PART[LTS*_side]:NEEDS[RealFuels] as it can't satisfy its NEEDS

Pack it can work with out all that extra module: YES

Pack it can affect game functionality (negative or positive) with out that extra module generate possible error on game or on pack it self : YES

anyway nice work & cya around

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One little suggestion what will be good to adjust on page description & future pack description:

- Your mod not only support MM / TweakScale / RemoteTech / F.A.R. / Modular Fuel Tank & Real Fuels it DEMAND to be have it REQUIRE / YELL to have it coz is a difference between support (my be have) & need

ModuleManager is required, other mods are supported but NOT REQUIRED.

":NEED[]" in MM files means that those won't fire (and change part configs) if you don't have corresponding mods, so your parts functionality will remain unchanged.

You DON'T NEED those mods, but you'll get extended functionality if you do.

You will have tuneable tanks with MT or RF, proper non-stock antennas with RT, changeable sizes with TweakScale and so on. You won't and can't have those improvements without corresponding plugins.

The only real dependency is ModuleManager and it is strictly demanded if you install from CKAN.

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heyho,

i noticed it, and did that as well.

but lateron i experienced my skycrane always floating to one site right after startup.

just by activating SAS i could almost stop it.

it turned out that it was caused by a tweakscaled tank i used with the crane. after chosing another, it goes straight up in the air.

Problems with tweakscale and mass balancing is something i experience more and more. will need to post that in their thread.

After i created my post here, i had similar problems with spaceplanes, that always turn right / left on the rollfield @100m/s. it make me wonder why its the same problem like the crane has. This made me change the tanks... and voila!

So, i did not ignore your warning - but please ignore mine as it was not the cranes misbehavior ;)

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Hey Dr. Jet, I've figured out how to add cargo bay functionality to the Rugged Rover Body. (The trick is to define a ModuleCargoBay for each cavity -- more details over here.) Here's a Module Manager patch that acts as a hotfix; to fix it permanently going forward, just drop those modules into the end of the config.


@PART[RuggedRoverBody]
{
    MODULE
    {
        name = ModuleCargoBay
        DeployModuleIndex = 3
        closedPosition = 0
        lookupRadius = 0.7
        lookupCenter = 0.5,0,0
    }

    MODULE
    {
        name = ModuleCargoBay
        DeployModuleIndex = 3
        closedPosition = 0
        lookupRadius = 0.7
        lookupCenter = -0.5,0,0
    }
}

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Hey Dr. Jet, I've figured out how to add cargo bay functionality to the Rugged Rover Body.

Nice, but... what's the point? Rovers never reach high enough velocities to have any noticeable drag effect. Hm-m... Maybe that will have effect in superdense atmosphere of Eve? Tell me honestly - did you test this patch for rover performance difference on Eve? :rolleyes:

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Nice, but... what's the point? Rovers never reach high enough velocities to have any noticeable drag effect. Hm-m... Maybe that will have effect in superdense atmosphere of Eve? Tell me honestly - did you test this patch for rover performance difference on Eve? :rolleyes:

What's the point?! Kerbal Space Program isn't about "why", it's about "why not"! ;)

Honestly, I made that config mostly because I figured that the rugged rover should protect its contents as advertised. Not really worried about drag, but heating. It would be a shame if someone were to have a mission that relied on a rough entry and found that the boxes didn't actually protect their contents.

No Eve testing, though I suspect that a rover dangling under one of your skycranes might be happy to have a place to put delicate science components and extendable solar panels. When I get the time, I'll send a duplicate set of rovers, and send one with the bays open and one with them shut, and let you know what happens.

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Nice, but... what's the point? Rovers never reach high enough velocities to have any noticeable drag effect. Hm-m... Maybe that will have effect in superdense atmosphere of Eve? Tell me honestly - did you test this patch for rover performance difference on Eve? :rolleyes:

Because, sometimes, you want to use a mountain as an ascent ramp for a short-range launch.

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What's the point?! Kerbal Space Program isn't about "why", it's about "why not"! ;)

Honestly, I made that config mostly because I figured that the rugged rover should protect its contents as advertised. Not really worried about drag, but heating.

It works with heating? Didn't know that. Hm-m-m... Then you have a point, it will be included in next patch along with tweakable counterweight and integrated service module.

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Lately I have had issue with the aerodynamic blister decoupler. It resets size anytime it is loaded in the VAB or put to launch. This is with the latest tweakscale. I swear this part used to work perfectly in the past so I don't know what could have changed. I love this part. It is the 1.25m variant trying to scale down. Am I the only one having this issue? I will try a minimal install to see if somehow another mod is intereaacting though I don't know why it would only be this part.

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Lately I have had issue with the aerodynamic blister decoupler. It resets size anytime it is loaded in the VAB or put to launch. This is with the latest tweakscale. I swear this part used to work perfectly in the past so I don't know what could have changed. I love this part. It is the 1.25m variant trying to scale down. Am I the only one having this issue? I will try a minimal install to see if somehow another mod is intereaacting though I don't know why it would only be this part.

Possibly a TS syntax change. Will look into that. Thanks for signal.

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Nope, TweakScale syntax wasn't changed. At least what part of it was used in my config.

Trying to replicate problem...

Resized to 2.5m part saved in craft - VAB loaded fine, no size changes.

Launched - fine, no size changes.

Reverted from flight - fine, no size changes.

Couldn't replicate the trouble.

The only strangeness found - decoupled stages are MORE aerodynamic than some main stages... will give you a weird sight if you decouple midflight with main stage engine off.

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