parts [1.12.x] USI Exploration Pack - Small parts, big adventure! [v 0.6.0]

[merlinux]

Actually I THINK I've got the hang of flying it. And yeah, I know it's stupidly overpowered but I have this thing. Anything worth doing is worth overdoing.

Also Duna has an amazingly thing atmostphere and I want to be sure as hell that it won't just drop through to the ground like a freaking rock.

You say you have got the hang of flying it however you ask in your previous post, "how do I move forward?", I am a little confused

With a stable, "flyable", craft you should be able to slowly raise your altitude and pitch down to go forward. Very slow inputs in the throttle and pitch wilp help you control your flight.

[Tassyr]

You say you have got the hang of flying it however you ask in your previous post, "how do I move forward?", I am a little confused

With a stable, "flyable", craft you should be able to slowly raise your altitude and pitch down to go forward. Very slow inputs in the throttle and pitch wilp help you control your flight.

(There's been a few hours between the posts. I've bounced it off the ground and a few rocks on Kerbin. XD In doing so, I learned how to fly it. Apologies!)

[merlinux]

(There's been a few hours between the posts. I've bounced it off the ground and a few rocks on Kerbin. XD In doing so, I learned how to fly it. Apologies!)

Hey no worries. the important is you know how to fly your craf I have a small USI craft I love and I call it the 'killing machine' ahah

[Tassyr]

Hey no worries. the important is you know how to fly your craf I have a small USI craft I love and I call it the 'killing machine' ahah

Oooh. Got a pic? (Also, with science gear attached, I hit an overland speed record of- and I'm not kidding- 234mph.)

[merlinux]

Oooh. Got a pic? (Also, with science gear attached, I hit an overland speed record of- and I'm not kidding- 234mph.)

It is already on this thread a lot of pages ago but here you are. And it has been slightly changed since those pics.

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[Tassyr]

It is already on this thread a lot of pages ago but here you are. And it has been slightly changed since those pics.

It makes me think of a -very- angry dragonfly for some reason.

[Gecko99]

HI Rover

Quick question bro - the large ducted fans, how do I reduce their atmospheric curve some?

Im using them on my VTOL SSTO and when im landing on a mountain even 1000m up they dont produce enough thrust to hover... am i doing something wrong? Im not doing anything with hover mode etc, just trying to get enough thrust out of the Large ducted fans to land - example - Kerbin mountains next to KSC i cant land at bec they are a few thousand meters up and the ducted fans wont work at an appreciable level up there.

Any suggestions as to how to make them less aggressively atmospheric density dependant?

Regards

The Gecko

[RoverDude]

0.2.2 IS UP!

Works on both 0.24.2 as well as 0.25. You can also get an all-in-one release from Dropbox.

• KSP 0.25 Support
  
• DRE/ATM support for the HERP command pod and jumpseat
  
• Fixed typo in Jumpseat name/description
  
• Minor update to HERP IVA
  
• Added in HERP lights
  
• New maintenance pod and various crates for resource transfer
  
• Bundled KERT for EVA Transfer support
  

[Viragos]

RoverDude, once again amazing work on your entire constellation. An idea occurred to me tonight whilst daydreaming about building a tiny VTOL Karborundum scanner to send with my upcoming Eve mission, since Kerbals on EVA are just essentially tiny ships, would it be possible to build a "chin" mount attachment for the AES pod with small robotic arms that allows you to use the Kerbal grab/KAS functions while still inside the pod? Kind of like the EVA pods from 2001 (That's the imagery that popped into my head while I was thinking about this)

Thank you again for all your hard work on all these mods.

[NWDogg]

Not sure what I've done, or if this is some sort of bug, or you've changed the way this pack works. I have tested just now with a completely fresh install of 0.25 KSP, and only the USI Exploration Pack (0.2.2 latest release from yesterday) installed. I seem to be missing the mini-SAS, the mini structural girder, and the mini decoupler. These are the only 3 I believe are missing. Did you possibly remove these from the pack, or is something wrong with the install?

Also, the AES structural outrigger. It used to look like an octagonal strut with a little cubic strut sticking out of it, like this -O . Now, in my .25 installs, it is missing the connection piece, so it just looks like an octagonal strut. The connection node itself is still there, though. Is this also a problem with the install?

Here is a picture of the outrigger, connected to the cargo rack. I've placed an octagonal strut there as well for comparison; also notice the lack of the other parts in the part menu.

And output log: http://pastebin.com/075LfUFm

edit: Just to clarify, this happened in my original .25 install with other mods. So, I used a new untouched fresh install (from Steam, if that matters) and got these same results.

Edited October 8, 2014 by NWDogg

[Thourion]

@NWDogg: Hmm yeah, now that you mentioned it, since those 3 parts models you are missing, are defined from the locations of the original Squad files, now that the stock things have been moved around, i can see it gets bugged.

I think RoverDude is aware of the issue though.

EDIT: Hmm well now im going crazy, since i could swear i saw that mini sas in my game ... and the outrigger is appearing fine for me ... Im loading the game now to recheck!

EDIT2: Yep whatever you found is true, and my initial reaction

Edited October 8, 2014 by Thourion
Im starting to loosing it lol

[NWDogg]

Ok, great. I didn't know if he was aware of it, or if it was even a problem for anyone other than myself. I won't worry about it then if it's a global problem, I know RoverDude will get around to it eventually.

[RoverDude]

RoverDude, once again amazing work on your entire constellation. An idea occurred to me tonight whilst daydreaming about building a tiny VTOL Karborundum scanner to send with my upcoming Eve mission, since Kerbals on EVA are just essentially tiny ships, would it be possible to build a "chin" mount attachment for the AES pod with small robotic arms that allows you to use the Kerbal grab/KAS functions while still inside the pod? Kind of like the EVA pods from 2001 (That's the imagery that popped into my head while I was thinking about this)

Thank you again for all your hard work on all these mods.

Not so much KAS and EVA functions, but there is a new maintenance pod included for resource transfer

Not sure what I've done, or if this is some sort of bug, or you've changed the way this pack works. I have tested just now with a completely fresh install of 0.25 KSP, and only the USI Exploration Pack (0.2.2 latest release from yesterday) installed. I seem to be missing the mini-SAS, the mini structural girder, and the mini decoupler. These are the only 3 I believe are missing. Did you possibly remove these from the pack, or is something wrong with the install?

Also, the AES structural outrigger. It used to look like an octagonal strut with a little cubic strut sticking out of it, like this -O . Now, in my .25 installs, it is missing the connection piece, so it just looks like an octagonal strut. The connection node itself is still there, though. Is this also a problem with the install?

Here is a picture of the outrigger, connected to the cargo rack. I've placed an octagonal strut there as well for comparison; also notice the lack of the other parts in the part menu.

And output log: http://pastebin.com/075LfUFm

edit: Just to clarify, this happened in my original .25 install with other mods. So, I used a new untouched fresh install (from Steam, if that matters) and got these same results.

Looks like a bug - can someone please log a github issue?

[Thourion]

I shoulda made a git account some time ago, but never got around to it . Only thing to note for anyone that can throw an issue there, is that this bug probably affects any USI mod (of course any mod for that matter) that reads from stock 0.24.2 or earlier directories, since, from a quick glimpse, they relocated/renamed many stuff around under Squad, in 0.25.

[skbernard]

issue posted and documented - Stock Model/Part Reference Breakage #24

[Tassyr]

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I present to thee; THE MOSQUITO MICROLIGHT FLYER!

Still on 0.24.2, but I REALLY like how this thing turned out. Infinite forward flight in daytime!

[Boomerang]

I see someone logged the problem on Github, but in case you haven't investigated yet, the MODEL lines in the AES Rack and Outrigger cfgs need to now reference "Squad/Parts/Structural/strutCubicOcto/model" rather than "Squad/Parts/Structural/strutCube/model"

[Hevak]

Ok so just downloaded and installed this. Was looking for the KAS useable crates that can hold all kinds of stuff including Tacls supplies. But can't find the crates. Found a science crate but it appears to do nothing? Possibly related to issue below?

I am having another problem with this mod. In the VAB/SPH All the pack rat parts except the mini wheel and the seat, all others have no textures. Just plain white models. The mini wheel and seat have the textures, also the bsp/250 karbonite converter has no textures either just plain white. Also the KE-65 mini karbonite engine.

All the herp, aes and models from other mods of yours are fine. Just those listed above are plain white.

It says I got ExpPack_o.2.2. And I installed it like all other mods of yours.

I dont know know how to give the logs to you or if you need any other info let me know. I'll try to do what I can. I'm not good at this stuff. Lol.

edit: ok so I erased and reinstalled the ExpPack components and the pack rat parts now have the textures. But the bsp/250 converter and the KE-65 mini karb engine still are plain white. And still can't find those crate containers that hold TACLS supplies as well as other stuff that I asked about in mks thread.

Edit2: exited and reloaded to update Kerbal Alarm and now all the parts listed have textures. So now just trying to find the crates I was looking for..

Here is link to the TAC thread where I was shown the containers I'm looking for just in case there is misunderstanding. First post on the page. They were attributed to USI.

http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/40667-0-24-2-TAC-Life-Support-v0-10-29Aug-No-Win64-Support?p=1466041#post1466041

Edited October 10, 2014 by Hevak

[Angelo Kerman]

My guess is that the textures are TGA. Apparently there's some issues with TGA textures not loading properly in .25.

[Hevak]

My guess is that the textures are TGA. Apparently there's some issues with TGA textures not loading properly in .25.

i think this may be the issue with the textures. I just exited and reloaded the game to update Kerbal Alarm and now all parts have textures..

Now i just need to find the crates I was looking for.

Edited October 10, 2014 by Hevak

[Boomerang]

So, I seem to have come across an IVA-related bug or two with the AES and HERP command pods in .25. I don't have a clean save at the moment, so I'll tinker with that tomorrow if need but, but I can replicate this pretty easily.

Two problems come up when either of the pods is attached to a part that already has space for crew. It doesn't occur between stock or between stock and other mod command pods. Here's a very basic set up. The stock pod is the root part:

Everything looks kosher. Until you switch to the AES IVA. It ought to be looking west, towards the mountains, the same way it's sat on the runway. Instead, this happens (and does with any other parts it's attached to, occasionally showing clipped bits of the parent part). From experimenting with it, I can tell that the IVA of the AES/HERP part is facing 180º from where it ought to be. If it's facing up, the IVA will look down, etc.

Then, whenever you separate the AES/HERP pod from the parent, either via decoupling or undocking, this happens (the focus is on the stock pod):

The detached part's IVA remains in the corner until I go back to the space center and refocus on the root part. The AES pod showed only it's sole occupant in the lower right. However, the detached part refuses to show me the IVA via the C key and if I click the IVA button in the lower right avatar, it's facing some odd direction and only showing me terrain.

Like I said, I'll do more investigating tomorrow if it's needed, but I'm exhausted right now and maybe there'll be an obvious fix to this. Thanks for all the awesome work!

[NWDogg]

RoverDude, the individual Exploration pack download (0.2.2 latest) does not include the new maintenance pod or the mini-crates. They can only be found in the all-in-one download. I'm assuming you meant to include these in the Exploration pack, so I thought I should let you and everyone else know that they aren't in there.

@Hevak, get the all-in-one. I spent all night reading through every single config file in the Exploration pack zip looking for those crates, but they simply aren't in there.

[RoverDude]

RoverDude, the individual Exploration pack download (0.2.2 latest) does not include the new maintenance pod or the mini-crates. They can only be found in the all-in-one download. I'm assuming you meant to include these in the Exploration pack, so I thought I should let you and everyone else know that they aren't in there.

@Hevak, get the all-in-one. I spent all night reading through every single config file in the Exploration pack zip looking for those crates, but they simply aren't in there.

Whoops!

Doing a refresh today so you will have these shortly.

[Boomerang]

Just checking in quick - I was able to reproduce the IVA bugs I listed above on a clean save with only the mods related to the AES pack installed.

[RoverDude]

Just checking in quick - I was able to reproduce the IVA bugs I listed above on a clean save with only the mods related to the AES pack installed.

Yep known issue. The pods are really meant to be used solo. Fiddling with it is on the list, but fairly low priority