Iwonder what what is minimum age and maximum age to successfully survive spaceflight?

[Pawelk198604]

I have problem to which category attach this thread "Space" or "Biology"

The oldest one man is John Glenn who is first American Astronaut who reach orbit i just wonder does kid age 13-14 or old man 80 and above could survive spaceflight?

[astropapi1]

You just love to create new threads, don't you?

Some mod should merge all of them into a master thread.

I guess it really depends on your health condition more than your age. If you're one of those obese kids who avoids vegetables like the plague, you might get your seat taken by a healthy 80 year old dude who runs every day, does yoga, and eats healthy stuff.

[Pawelk198604]

You just love to create new threads, don't you?

Some mod should merge all of them into a master thread.

I guess it really depends on your health condition more than your age. If you're one of those obese kids who avoids vegetables like the plague, you might get your seat taken by a healthy 80 year old dude who runs every day, does yoga, and eats healthy stuff.

No i'm not kid i'm adult (28 years old)and rather fat so to speak (135-140 kg)

Edited September 29, 2014 by Pawelk198604

[PakledHostage]

You just love to create new threads, don't you?

Some mod should merge all of them into a master thread.

For what it is worth, I like Pavel's contribution to this forum. Sure he's a bit eccentric and some of his threads are redundant, but overall he's got a knack for starting discussions. We all benefit when these forums are busy with interesting debates. There hasn't been enough of that lately. Pavel is, to a degree, single handedly keeping things going.

Edited September 29, 2014 by PakledHostage

[NFUN]

Currently, as astropapi has said, health and fitness is probably more important than age, except at extremes. A pre-pubescent child could probably survive less-intensive launches, and a strong octogenarian (or older) might fare as well. I'd be worried about bone density though. Infants, with their cartilage, might have less aptitude to survive the Gs, and skeletons weaken as one ages. There are almost certainly more pressing issues, but that is just what comes to my ignorant mind.

In the future, it is to be hoped that there will be some forms of spaceflight gentle enough for all but the most frail members of society.

//I like Pawelk's contributions for the most part, I just wish he would proofread his headlines a bit more. Curiosity and inquiry is a good thing.

Edited September 29, 2014 by NFUN

[Pawelk198604]

For what it is worth, I like Pavel's contribution to this forum. Sure he's a bit eccentric and some of his threads are redundant, but overall he's got a knack for starting discussions. We all benefit when these forums are busy with interesting debates. There hasn't been enough of that lately. Pavel is, to a degree, single handedly keeping things going.

Thanks for words of appreciation:-)

I love debating especially about science and politic, but since debating about politic is "verboten" on KSP forum ;-) i leave it for wrongplanet.net (cuz i'm autistic "aspie")

[Skyler4856]

Thanks for words of appreciation:-)

I love debating especially about science and politic, but since debating about politic is "verboten" on KSP forum ;-) i leave it for wrongplanet.net (cuz i'm autistic "aspie")

I must note, your English is improving.

Now on to the question at hand. When i was 12, my father took me to a state fair, in this fair one may find a ride that which may subject one to over 6 G's; i just barely keep consciousness

[goldenpeach]

I must note, your English is improving.

Now on to the question at hand. When i was 12, my father took me to a state fair, in this fair one may find a ride that which may subject one to over 6 G's; i just barely keep consciousness

My "maximum G" is 4.

In a rollercoaster, even if it was too short for me to notice

[Pawelk198604]

I must note, your English is improving.

Now on to the question at hand. When i was 12, my father took me to a state fair, in this fair one may find a ride that which may subject one to over 6 G's; i just barely keep consciousness

I'm B2-2 in English :-) (i got 3.5 for English course at my university (C+ in American grading)

Maybe my English improved because i wrote this myself, and not using Google translate:D

[dbmorpher]

I'm 15 but I'm pretty sure I would be ready for spaceflight. I don't react to high G's the way most people do (I think I get more focused with higher acceleration). I play football too and have taken a few hard hits but I'm still fine. I may be too tall for spaceflight though as I'm 6' and probably won't stop growing until I'm 6'4.

[shynung]

Infants, with their cartilage, might have less aptitude to survive the Gs, and skeletons weaken as one ages.

That makes me wonder.

Suppose an infant, in the form of an embryo (still within a female), was launched to space. It survived, and was born in space in a station without a centrifuge onboard.

How would the infant have developed compared to earth-born humans? Will it ever have any chance of returning back to earth?

[Lukaszenko]

That makes me wonder.

Suppose an infant, in the form of an embryo (still within a female), was launched to space. It survived, and was born in space in a station without a centrifuge onboard.

How would the infant have developed compared to earth-born humans? Will it ever have any chance of returning back to earth?

I've seen this question before here, and I answered the same way

[Pawelk198604]

I'm 15 but I'm pretty sure I would be ready for spaceflight. I don't react to high G's the way most people do (I think I get more focused with higher acceleration). I play football too and have taken a few hard hits but I'm still fine. I may be too tall for spaceflight though as I'm 6' and probably won't stop growing until I'm 6'4.

You certainly would not fit in the cramped cabin of the Soyuz, but it depends on where you live because if you're an American, then know that the Orion capsule built by NASA / ESA is quite large.

As for endurance for High G's you should not be so sure, did you was tested on centrifuge or at lest ride on roller coaster? as for Football you are referring to American football or the European(soccer), because people playing American football ale let we say "massive" and high wight are rather disadvantage in high acceleration, slim and short people endure this more better,

[peadar1987]

Yeah, I enjoy Pawel's threads, they definitely make the forum more interesting. Some of them start good discussions, some of them fizzle, but you can't argue that they don't add something to the forum. And, as people have noted, his English is definitely improving.

I'd say that actually, most people able to walk on their own (so from toddlers to dodderers) would be able to survive a short spaceflight, as the G loading can actually be kept fairly minimal at launch and reentry. Of course, whether it would be a good idea is a different matter! Exposing very young people to radiation is generally a very bad idea, as the long-term problems this can cause have a long time to manifest, for example.

[Pawelk198604]

Yeah, I enjoy Pawel's threads, they definitely make the forum more interesting. Some of them start good discussions, some of them fizzle, but you can't argue that they don't add something to the forum. And, as people have noted, his English is definitely improving.

I'd say that actually, most people able to walk on their own (so from toddlers to dodderers) would be able to survive a short spaceflight, as the G loading can actually be kept fairly minimal at launch and reentry. Of course, whether it would be a good idea is a different matter! Exposing very young people to radiation is generally a very bad idea, as the long-term problems this can cause have a long time to manifest, for example.

That because my English lecturer at my university, i remember when once he given us English text from some British newspaper i did this and handled over my homework but the guy said that he not give my grades for this, because i used Google translate (how guy know that! ) but fortunately, I was not the only

[Godot]

Well, send a number of children to space, say multiple in each year of age (or half a year for the first 2 years) and make statistics about how many survive in each age group and you have the answer.

Don´t think you could (currently) make an educated guess without experiments ... especially as AFAIK also no comparable experiments have been made with (non human) non adult animals that would be comparable to humans (for example non adults of other ape species)

Edited September 29, 2014 by Godot
replaced e with a

[Rune]

1.75, 65kgs, not extremely fit but without much muscle so my metabolism runs on fumes compared with "fit" people (say, if you go to the gym and/or play a sport in uni, you caloric intake is at least 50% higher tan mine). I would be perfect for spaceflight if it wasn't for my nicotine addiction! Plus, my lungs are pretty weak. But tell me I can go to space if I quit smoking, and in six months I will have the constitution of a marathon runner.

Rune. Which is what's perfect for the job.

[peadar1987]

Hmm... 27 years old, 1.80m, 70kg, non-smoker, but asthma and psoriasis would probably rule me out. Nobody wants to deal with my coughing and disgusting flaky skin all over their space station!!

[Acemcbean]

Well, send a number of children to space, say multiple in each year of age (or half a year for the first 2 years) and make statistics about how many survive in each age group and you have the answer

You do realize that is both highly illegal and imoral. Sending children to space to see which ones dont die?

[Acemcbean]

Oh, and I would say any human being of atleast the age of 15 would be suitable to go to space. Yes, long term, radiation would kill you if you were TOO young, so technically it should be like 25< , but whatever. Safety, shmafety.

[Skyler4856]

I'm B2-2 in English :-) (i got 3.5 for English course at my university (C+ in American grading)

Maybe my English improved because i wrote this myself, and not using Google translate:D

That would do it..

[Godot]

You do realize that is both highly illegal and imoral. Sending children to space to see which ones dont die?

Of course I know this ... you shouldn´t take this part of my posting tooo serious

In contrast to the other parts of my posting ... IMHO it would be necessary to send juvenile specimens of other animal species (like apes, for example) up there,

in order to test how the stress of spaceflight affects their not fully grown organism (and draw conclusions for humans from this)

[Kryten]

I don't see any reason a newborn baby wouldn't survive being put into space just fine, although it probably wouldn't exactly be a pleasant experience for anyone involved.

[cantab]

Agreed, 0 and infinity I would assume. Not least because suppose humanity builds a space elevator, then it's a sedate (if long) climb. But even in today's rockets I don't think g-forces would be fatal in normal operation. A "passenger" unlike a regular astronaut would not need to be fully conscious all the time either.

But I doubt we'll know on the young end any time soon because it would be unethical to put a baby in a centrifuge.

[Dispatcher]

I'm sure that once space tourism is commonplace, a baby will be born in orbit.

As for Google translate; a fun thing to do when bored is to write something in one's native language, then Google translate it into another language, and finally Google translate the translation back into the native language.