[Concept] Jumbo32 Expansion

[Whirligig Girl]

Part of the goal of Jumbo32 is not only to increase the stock system's size, but also it's interest. And perhaps the logical way to increase this is the addition of the rest of the gas planets. Some of NovaSilisko's beloved musings will be used to further improve the universe.

Sun: Will be renamed to "Kerbol", and will have an extremely overheating atmosphere. (That atmosphere heating code is still in the game, I am just not sure how to access it.)

Moho: It will be given back it's deadly atmosphere, just to a lesser extent. It may also be made slightly more red. A special module may also be created for a spacecraft which acts as a temperature heatshield.

Eve: Atmosphere will be made slightly smaller (Reverted to stock atmospheric height), but the pressure ASL will be made from 5 atm to 5.32 atm.

-Gilly: Will be reverted to stock scale, but the gravity will be made 1.6x stock scale. It's ground will also be made to resemble a real asteroid like what can be found in RealSolarSystem with Deimos and Phobos.

-Iphis: A small rock comparable to Gilly. Imagine a moonlet the size of 3.2x Gilly. It's put into a more inclined, more eccentric, higher orbit than Gilly.

Dres: As you may already know, Dres now rotates waaaaay too fast. This is already in

Jool: Holds the largest moons of the Solar System.

-Vall: Vall's heightmap shall be reversed, as will the coloration of it's mountains/plains to correspond with this.

-Tylo: Will be retextured to be a highly contrasting body like Iapetus.

-Pol: Mountains/Crevices will be exaggerated.

-Bop: Bop will be made to 1.6 scale, and it's mass will be 2.4 scaled. (From stock scale)

Voon: A Gas Planet 115% the size of Jool but only 70% the mass. It must resemble that which is shown here. Rings hopefully.

-Eeloo: Of course it's relocated to Voon. May talk to NovaSilisko about those geysers he prototyped. As in current version of Jumbo32, Eeloo gets a tenuous atmosphere.

-Daphy: Smooth, round, boring ball of boring fluff. It's one advantage is a rather high rotation speed (Not nearly as much as Dres!) and great views of Voon and it's moons.

-Potatus: Well if Dres is spinning too fast, how can Potatus be made interesting? It's inclination is almost 67 degrees from Voon's equator.

-Fonso: Voon's largest moon, almost as big as Moho, and with a high, thick atmosphere. Several mountains actually rise out of the atmosphere entirely into the vacuum.

Sillas: A smaller "Ice Giant" planet. It's not really an Ice Giant, it's really an absolutely MASSIVE rocky planet with 5 gees of gravity and a hugely thick atmosphere. (This is not my idea, remember, this is NovaSilisko's. Blame him.) If possible, it will have uber high axial tilt.

-Pordos: Just a boring moon made interesting because of it's low inclination relative to Sillas's equator. Which is very tilted.

Nesph: A Proper Ice Giant planet. If the Kerbal Weather Mod is ever finished, then Nesph will have VERY high winds.

-Thudrim: A captured dwarf planet the size of the Mun with Earth/Kerbin Gravity ASL. Also it's in a retrograde orbit.

Bluto: Taken from the name Blutonium from the RTGs. It's literally just Pluto.

Charn: A dwarf planet that happens to be in the exact same orbit as Bluto. In fact, it's orbiting Bluto. And Bluto is orbiting it.

[Chezburgar7300]

Will Jool see any upgrades/changes?

[Whirligig Girl]

Will Jool see any upgrades/changes?

Probably not. It doesn't need to be any more interesting than it already is. It's really the moons that you go there for.

[SkyRex94]

I like the general idea.

All of that in a 3.2 scale right?

Some opinion/addition:

- I would like to let the Suns name stay the Sun

- Making Gilly back to stock size is great idea, since it really loses the Asteroid-character when scaled up to 3.2

- Not sure what Iphis would really add to gameplay value, i would scratch it

- Tylo: I would rather like to see a Iapetus analouge around GP2 instead of tranforming tylo

- Voon: I'd prefer another name, we already have this obvious double-o in 'Jool' (Some time ago I came up with a name for GP2 : Syterion)

- Daphy: I would set it at the Edge or even lower than GP2s Rings, for great View.

- Potatus: Has to be small like stock Gilly to justify such a high inclination, but would also make great views from the top of the rings.

- Fonso: This should be the Titan Analouge. So maybe a yellowish Atmosphere color. And some dark-grey lakes and rivers made out of methane, between the big mountains inside the thick Atmo. Don't really like the name Fonso, but don't have a better one right now.

-Addition: Iapetus analouge.

Sillas/Nepth: As can be seen on your ideas of moons for them , and the moons in real life, there isn't so much addition having 4 GPs, so I think just 3 GP's are enough diversity for KSP, if GP3 is a combined analouge to Uranus and Neptune. color: if GP2 is blue and Jool green, maybe yellow, red or bright blue-turquis-white. Instead of making it rocky, what about making a surface which is just one big ocean? so you go through veeery thick atmo and can then float on the ocean. would be a little more realistic than a gas-rock transition for a gas or ice giant.

GP3 Moons:

- a Triton analouge with a retrograde orbit relative to GP3s rotation.

- a small moon that is stretched and irregular instead of spherical ( maybe possible with the right height-map?)

- a rocky-coal moon, where the surface is so black, that you can barely see anything when youre in the night (or in GP3s shadow)

Bluto: don't like the name, but like the idea of a Plutoid-moon

Addition: A comet. size of stock gilly with high eccentric orbit.

Addition2: An Io analouge: a volcanic active moon either around Jool or GP2.

what do you think ?

Edit: Fonso alternative names: Kyulox , Kulox, Twrukyotev, Urtos

(I'm not so good at thinking up names, the idea was to make a contrast to Laythe, since this will probably be the most popular GP2 moon , as Laythe is Jools)

Edited December 17, 2014 by SkyRex94

[Whirligig Girl]

I like the general idea.

All of that in a 3.2 scale right?

Some opinion/addition:

- I would like to let the Suns name stay the Sun

- Making Gilly back to stock size is great idea, since it really loses the Asteroid-character when scaled up to 3.2

- Not sure what Iphis would really add to gameplay value, i would scratch it

- Tylo: I would rather like to see a Iapetus analouge around GP2 instead of tranforming tylo

- Voon: I'd prefer another name, we already have this obvious double-o in 'Jool' (Some time ago I came up with a name for GP2 : Syterion)

- Daphy: I would set it at the Edge or even lower than GP2s Rings, for great View.

- Potatus: Has to be small like stock Gilly to justify such a high inclination, but would also make great views from the top of the rings.

- Fonso: This should be the Titan Analouge. So maybe a yellowish Atmosphere color. And some dark-grey lakes and rivers made out of methane, between the big mountains inside the thick Atmo. Don't really like the name Fonso, but don't have a better one right now.

-Addition: Iapetus analouge.

Sillas/Nepth: As can be seen on your ideas of moons for them , and the moons in real life, there isn't so much addition having 4 GPs, so I think just 3 GP's are enough diversity for KSP, if GP3 is a combined analouge to Uranus and Neptune. color: if GP2 is blue and Jool green, maybe yellow, red or bright blue-turquis-white. Instead of making it rocky, what about making a surface which is just one big ocean? so you go through veeery thick atmo and can then float on the ocean. would be a little more realistic than a gas-rock transition for a gas or ice giant.

GP3 Moons:

- a Triton analouge with a retrograde orbit relative to GP3s rotation.

- a small moon that is stretched and irregular instead of spherical ( maybe possible with the right height-map?)

- a rocky-coal moon, where the surface is so black, that you can barely see anything when youre in the night (or in GP3s shadow)

Bluto: don't like the name, but like the idea of a Plutoid-moon

Addition: A comet. size of stock gilly with high eccentric orbit.

Addition2: An Io analouge: a volcanic active moon either around Jool or GP2.

what do you think ?

Edit: Fonso alternative names: Kyulox , Kulox, Twrukyotev, Urtos

(I'm not so good at thinking up names, the idea was to make a contrast to Laythe, since this will probably be the most popular GP2 moon , as Laythe is Jools)

Voonian moon names are based on NovaSilisko's original idea. And I really like the simple name Voon. One thing that people don't realize when naming planets is that they're named after things. I don't know about Voon, but that's the WIP name. I'll find something. Might even ask NovaSilisko what he thinks about it, it is his concept after all.

[wasmic]

Part of the goal of Jumbo32 is not only to increase the stock system's size, but also it's interest. And perhaps the logical way to increase this is the addition of the rest of the gas planets. Some of NovaSilisko's beloved musings will be used to further improve the universe.

Sun: Will be renamed to "Kerbol", and will have an extremely overheating atmosphere. (That atmosphere heating code is still in the game, I am just not sure how to access it.)

Seems like a good idea, but it might interfere with Karborundum gathering, which is pretty much the only reason to go close to the sun in the first place.

Dres: As you may already know, Dres now rotates waaaaay too fast. This is already in

Maybe slow Dres' rotation down a little bit, so that it's still very fast but not fast enough to exceed orbital velocity.

Voon: A Gas Planet 115% the size of Jool but only 70% the mass. It must resemble that which is shown here. Rings hopefully.

Maybe make it 125 % size instead? Large planets are awesome.

-Potatus: Well if Dres is spinning too fast, how can Potatus be made interesting? It's inclination is almost 67 degrees from Voon's equator.

I'm not too keen on the insane inclination. I'm not sure what could be done to Potatus instead, though.

Sillas: A smaller "Ice Giant" planet. It's not really an Ice Giant, it's really an absolutely MASSIVE rocky planet with 5 gees of gravity and a hugely thick atmosphere. (This is not my idea, remember, this is NovaSilisko's. Blame him.) If possible, it will have uber high axial tilt.

I believe that axial tilt is not possible in KSP, but it's an interesting concept.

-Thudrim: A captured dwarf planet the size of the Mun with Earth/Kerbin Gravity ASL. Also it's in a retrograde orbit.

Cool concept, but maybe turn the ASL Gee down to just above Duna's level?

[Whirligig Girl]

Seems like a good idea-snip-

Will take into consideration.

[Captain Sierra]

I'm not sure I'd want to see the entire system expanded by 3.2x (some people do so definitely should be an option still) as I like the size its at. Takes some planning to go anywhere other than Duna but still pretty comfortable. I definitely do want to see more big planets added out past Jool, so that said I support fully.

[SkyRex94]

Voonian moon names are based on NovaSilisko's original idea. And I really like the simple name Voon. One thing that people don't realize when naming planets is that they're named after things. I don't know about Voon, but that's the WIP name. I'll find something. Might even ask NovaSilisko what he thinks about it, it is his concept after all.

Okay, what do you think about the rest of my suggestions?