E. F. Kranz Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 Don\'t get me wrong, I\'m happy to have it!But this is an ongoing problem that really isn\'t specific to the LT-2. ALL landing legs seem to suffer from the same weakness - the point of attachment.They act like they\'re attached with drywall screws and duct tape.Struts, you say? That\'s all well and good, except you can\'t attach one leg to another. And of course then there\'s the whole 'the VAB ate my struts and I didn\'t notice until I got to the Mun' thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjwt Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 Struts, you say? That\'s all well and good, except you can\'t attach one leg to another. And of course then there\'s the whole 'the VAB ate my struts and I didn\'t notice until I got to the Mun' thing.You lose struts in the VAB and still make it to the Mun? You\'re doing it wrong!It should explode on loading if even one strut goes missing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluejayek Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 So true sjwt. Although, sometimes the struts only effectg particular stages. For example, my lunar rocket, the third stage has some SRB\'s on it. If they arent strutted together, the entire rocket will start to oscillate back and forth to the point where it will eject the srbs and start into a death spiral. However, notghing goes wrong on the earlier stages without those struts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E. F. Kranz Posted April 8, 2012 Author Share Posted April 8, 2012 You lose struts in the VAB and still make it to the Mun? You\'re doing it wrong!It should explode on loading if even one strut goes missing!I\'m an engineer. I\'m guilty of overdesigning my crafts. That\'s probably why I\'m irritated when a 'landing strut' can\'t hold up to 2m/s ground contact.My latest monstrosity, the HoveRover is a dual-lander design with fuel for days: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjwt Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 Whats got me, is not that lander legs break, nor the speed they do it at, its that they are 100% explosive! even if they come off sliding down a hill at 0.5m/s. What do those Kerbals make them out of, nitroglycerin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberion Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 We\'re sort of running into a limitation of KSP here; No matter how high you crank up the attachment strength, its still dictated by the engine somewhat, and is affected by a part\'s mass; So when you have a light part supporting a heavy part (or group of parts) the mass difference in them can make the connection weaker.One could make the legs heavier of course, but that doesn\'t seem like a good idea for parts you\'re lofting to the Mun.The stock leg was indeed a bit weak by default even in the config, I had turned it up at one point when I was using it a lot. I haven\'t specifically tested the NP legs under such heavy weights, I\'ll make a note to look at those during the next update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaSilisko Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 2 m/s is nearly 5 miles per hour, the Apollo landers touched down at speeds of under 0.5 m/s - so it\'s actually more realistic to have them snap off at speeds like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E. F. Kranz Posted April 8, 2012 Author Share Posted April 8, 2012 Even if there are, say, 16 of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryten Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 Weight matters as well, and many modded parts (e.g. Kyle and Winston\'s stuff) weigh far more than stock parts are really meant to take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoHedWlf Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 But this is an ongoing problem that really isn\'t specific to the LT-2. ALL landing legs seem to suffer from the same weakness - the point of attachment.They act like they\'re attached with drywall screws and duct tape.Your complaint is irrelevant. They are, in fact, attached with drywall screws and duct tape. They were on sale at the local hardware store. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slavechild Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 I'm finding that LT-2 has a habit of forcing itself into the ground and getting stuck or suffering from a lot of movement/swivel as if it's only attached by one drywall screw that happens to be off center!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rasheed Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 This topic is over a year old. Bad manners to bump it up.-Thread Closed (Pretend Mod) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostLabs Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 probably should let a real mod do that.yes, necro thread. Bad form, old sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sal_vager Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 He's new, Slavechild, revisiting such old threads is frowned upon, not just here but on many other sites as well, and you can read up on good forum conduct in my guide Closing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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