i like turtles Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Okay... This is complicated.Even I understood the formula... and i didn't know how to do division workings until i was 5th grade :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwhip Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Also, when do the green bars start to increase in number?When people start to give you rep... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vexx32 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Don't if tthis formula has changed since or so, but it also seems that the minimum of reputation power is 1.Anyway, thanks! I'm pretty new to this forum, searched the thumb up button a short while and thought it did not exist.Yeah, rep power only ranges from 1 to 5. I think the max used to be 10, some time ago.If it wasn't capped, I'd apparently have 95 rep power. Heh, that'd be something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilfr3d Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 95 rep powerUncap rep power. Give me rep. Recap rep power. Profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John FX Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Heh, I just ran the rep calculation on myself and I can see why it's got an upper limit, some posters would have hugely disproportional rep power.Should really be inversely proportional to postcount, rep/postcount gives a good indicator of the signal to noise ratio of a poster.I like this idea although maybe keep the current system for people with low numbers of posts. Once you get over a hundred posts the maths becomes less volatile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFUN Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 (edited) I like this idea although maybe keep the current system for people with low numbers of posts. Once you get over a hundred posts the maths becomes less volatile.I don't know, sometimes I am tempted to make a silly comment or reference that adds nothing to the conversation to nab a few rep points (I've even lost some points for having comments that got reputation get deleted by moderators). People who make mods also usually have a crap ton of rep points, even if the vast majority of their comments are worthless. Besides, most people will only give rep to the best of comments, and not to the average posts that make up the majority of the forums and keep discussion running. Having such a [perceived] bonus for making few comments that are extraordinary will kill the quantity of posts and render the forums barren.And in a related note, I apparently need moderator approval to make posts, possibly for that mildly off-topic comment I mentioned before. Stay relevant kiddos, and don't hang your ego on reputation levels. Edited December 12, 2014 by Specialist290 Merging sequential posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Iron Crown Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 People who make mods also usually have a crap ton of rep points, even if the vast majority of their comments are worthless.I haven't found either part of that statement to be accurate. Some modders have a lot of rep, but most do not even if their mod is really popular. The high rep/low post count modders are usually worth listening to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainKipard Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Most of my rep is completely unrelated to my mods. A lot of it is from helping other modders, some of it is from popular opinions, I made a joke here and there.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFUN Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 I haven't found either part of that statement to be accurate. Some modders have a lot of rep, but most do not even if their mod is really popular. The high rep/low post count modders are usually worth listening to.Recently I've looked through the rep counts of members, and most times when a poster had an pretty high post/rep ratio, it was because of a mod they made or a rocket they shared; that is, one comment of theirs received nearly all of their rep. I am not saying that modders don't deserve their rep nor are more likely to make inane comments-- often it is the opposite. I suppose I was referring to a few cases that I saw from fairly inactive (less than 100 posts) who had an unseemingly high amount of rep, due to their contributions. They had few posts, but also few points, about 100-200, which just stuck out at me because they were outliers.This effect is probably less pronounced in more prolific modders, who originally modded because they had a high level of interest in the game and community, and continued to add to the forums seperately from their mods (like our good friend Cpt. Kipard below, or the mod-erators we have). I was likely misled by a confusion of correlation/causation and small sample sizes.Also, RIC, did you get a new rep blob recently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Iron Crown Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Recently I've looked through the rep counts of members, and most times when a poster had an pretty high post/rep ratio, it was because of a mod they made or a rocket they shared; that is, one comment of theirs received nearly all of their rep. I am not saying that modders don't deserve their rep nor are more likely to make inane comments-- often it is the opposite. I suppose I was referring to a few cases that I saw from fairly inactive (less than 100 posts) who had an unseemingly high amount of rep, due to their contributions. They had few posts, but also few points, about 100-200, which just stuck out at me because they were outliers.This effect is probably less pronounced in more prolific modders, who originally modded because they had a high level of interest in the game and community, and continued to add to the forums seperately from their mods (like our good friend Cpt. Kipard below, or the mod-erators we have). I was likely misled by a confusion of correlation/causation and small sample sizes.I see what you're saying. A poster with few posts but has made a few "good ones" could have disproportionate rep/post. I guess it takes a sufficiently large volume of posts from a poster to give a better gauge of how rep-worthy their posts usually are. (I'll stop short of doing a statistical analysis of silly Internet points )Also, RIC, did you get a new rep blob recently?Funny you ask that. I've had this many for a month or so now, but today I happened to pass the point where another would be added if the system permitted more. Oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LethalDose Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Did someone post a ranking of rep points somewhere a few months back? Anyone have that link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KasperVld Posted December 13, 2014 Author Share Posted December 13, 2014 Here: http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/95623-Say-Hello-to-the-Light-Green-Group! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John FX Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 I am about 70 short of a light green pip. None of my rep has come from mods or craft. I`ve never made a mod and all the craft threads I ever post have literally no replies Not even to say people don`t like the craft. It`s like they are invisible...Maybe mods and craft could earn their own rep as well as people? Then instead of seeing a high rep person has made a mod/craft you would see that the craft or mod itself was deemed repworthy also?The page with the total ranking of all members is here sorted by Rephttp://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/memberlist.php?order=desc&sort=reputation&pp=30In the list I can see some very prolific posters with large amounts of Rep although their rep per post is no better than anyone else.I think I like Red Iron Crowns idea, maybe have a gauge under the rep pips which is rep per post? It could go from 0 to (whatever the current best is) dynamically.Then you could see when someone has 510 rep (5 bars and a green pip) but nearly 5000 posts and someone else has 380 (4 bars) but only 2000 posts, the first person has a ratio of under 0.1 while the second has a ration of 0.19, nearly double.I`d rely on the second person giving out good advice more often than the first. Twice as often in fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFUN Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 (edited) I`d rely on the second person giving out good advice more often than the first. Twice as often in fact.That is what I have a problem with; rep is not necessarily a good indicator of trustworthiness or usefulness. Most of my posts are inane bullcrap that don't deserve reputation nor recognition, while judging by your recent posts you seem to be helpful and informative. So why is my rep ratio .48 versus your .21? I have a much smaller sample size which could skew the data, but reputation is not given out evenly or fairly enough to justify added gravitas. Edited December 14, 2014 by NFUN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John FX Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 That is what I have a problem with; rep is not necessarily a good indicator of trustworthiness or usefulness. Most of my posts are inane bullcrap that don't reputation nor recognition, while judging by your recent posts you seem to be helpful and informative. So why is my rep ratio .48 versus your .21? I have a much smaller sample size which could skew the data, but reputation is not given out evenly or fairly enough to justify added gravitas.A fair point but it`s the only indicator we have if you don`t want to read lots of posts by someone to find out. The added gravitas is also only present if the person reading the comments puts it there. The actual effect of rep could be discussed for a long time I think without a definitive answer.I think a rep ratio only makes sense in addition to things like the number of posts. There are not many frequent posters with large amounts of rep that are not helpful and informative. It`s quite a good crowd here generally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFUN Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 It`s quite a good crowd here generally.I would say that nullifies any need for more rep information, but I see your point. I am of the philosophy that unless a poster has repeatably shown they have nothing of value to add, they should have their say without bias, and if they are useless, they can be ignored. I favor a system where individual posts are marked as valuable, and potentially a nickname could be added to a poster, reminding the viewer that they find the poster funny or helpful or disrespectful. The latter system might create more bias though, and neither is probably functional under vBulletin, and this system has its own merits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Climberfx Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 (edited) But not correctly. I just had "Allowed to draw blue prints" when reach 200 points. Not 150. Edited January 17, 2015 by Climberfx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megatiger78 Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 so If SQUAD gave someone rep..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KasperVld Posted January 17, 2015 Author Share Posted January 17, 2015 so If SQUAD gave someone rep.....The limit is at 10 points, but the SQUAD account doesn't have administrator's access on the forums, so its limit is 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worir4 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 How much rep can be given out before the 24 hours re-charge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KasperVld Posted January 20, 2015 Author Share Posted January 20, 2015 You can give reputation 10 times per 24 hours, regardless of your rep power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwhip Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 And what's the number of rep events before you can rep the same user? It seems to be around 4 or 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KandoKris Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 (edited) I feel the rep equation is far to slanted toward spam posters( 1 craft on 20+ threads). Which leaves most posters in the lower end regardless of the quality of posts. As has been shown here on the forum many times. I believe this has had the effect of reducing the number of new forum uses and the no; of posts they make as it can seem both fruitless and a waste of time trying to compete. It also creates a "need" to get "comments" and hopefully “Rep†from the daily posters as rep from them = more than rep from others. ( yes I do get the intention behind it "steering newbies toward contact with experienced users and giving newbies forum goals etcâ€Â. It still seems a little inherently unfair.While I understand from other posts here that it is a part of the forum and somthing that can be changed with ease the servers the forum runs on aren't accessible by most of the staff that regularly run the forum.I would still none the less wish to share my opinion, it may be wrong but it is what it is. ( oh and I do know the top 10ish are not prolific posters.....not big ones anyway ) Edited February 2, 2015 by KandoKris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFUN Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 I feel the rep equation is far to slanted toward spam posters( 1 craft on 20+ threads). Which leaves most posters in the lower end regardless of the quality of posts. As has been shown here on the forum many times. I believe this has had the effect of reducing the number of new forum uses and the no; of posts they make as it can seem both fruitless and a waste of time trying to compete. It also creates a "need" to get "comments" and hopefully “Rep†from the daily posters as rep from them = more than rep from others. ( yes I do get the intention behind it "steering newbies toward contact with experienced users and giving newbies forum goals etcâ€Â. It still seems a little inherently unfair.While I understand from other posts here that it is a part of the forum and somthing that can be changed with ease I would still none the less wish to share my opinion, it may be wrong but it is what it is. ( oh and I do know the top 10ish are not prolific posters.....not big ones anyway )Nah, I've seen plenty of posters with nearly 1000 comments that had only one rep bar, and I feel sort of the opposite, where users that drive much of the discussion don't get the recognition that they deserve, which tend to be the prolific posters. I may be misinterpreting what you mean by 'spam posters' though. The rep equation also maxes out surprisingly quickly; one only needs 25 rep to have a rep power of 5. I think I've only been given rep that was less than five points once or twice. Again, I think I am reading your post incorrectly, please correct me if necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelsteele3 Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Nah, I've seen plenty of posters with nearly 1000 comments that had only one rep bar, and I feel sort of the opposite, where users that drive much of the discussion don't get the recognition that they deserve, which tend to be the prolific posters. I may be misinterpreting what you mean by 'spam posters' though. The rep equation also maxes out surprisingly quickly; one only needs 25 rep to have a rep power of 5. I think I've only been given rep that was less than five points once or twice. Again, I think I am reading your post incorrectly, please correct me if necessary.I didn't get a rep power of 5 until I got to 50 rep points .-. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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