Remove "wheels blocked" from ksp

[123nick]

is it possible too just get rid of the "wheels blocked" thing where if ur wheels appear too be blocked (even if they arent) ksp just disables them? there is no reason for this too even exist, i mean, why was it implimented in the first place? it would be as if a vehicles TWR was less than 1.0 it wouldnt even let you ignite the engines, or stage. i mean, if a wheel is on the ground then surely it should work. ill post a screenshot detailing why i dont like this clearly soon, but im wondering now if there is a way too disable it completely from happening.

edit: here is what i mean:

Edited May 21, 2016 by 123nick

[Nils277]

I don't think it is possible to disable this, it is embedded in the internal code of the wheels. It would be possible if someone completely 'reinvents' the wheels (as in codes completely new code for the wheels that replaces the stock ones).

The wheels aren't actually blocked because they collide with the ground.  They are blocked because they collide with some other parts of the craft. This had to be done because the wheels would have destroyed the craft otherwise.
This feature seems to be a bit sensitive though currently.

I see that the wheels you used are not stock ones. From which mod are they? Maybe they are not adapted yet to work with the newest KSP version.

 

PS: A thread about the exact same topic was just 7 threads blow yours:

 

Edited May 21, 2016 by Nils277

[123nick]

3 minutes ago, Nils277 said:

I don't think it is possible to disable this, it is embedded in the internal code of the wheels. It would be possible if someone completely 'reinvents' the wheels (as in codes completely new code for the wheels that replaces the stock ones).

The wheels aren't actually blocked because they collide with the ground.  They are blocked because they collide with some other parts of the craft. This had to be done because the wheels would have destroyed the craft when they collided with other parts.
This feature seems to be a bit sensitive though currently.

I see that the wheels you used are not stock ones. From which mod are they? Maybe they are not adapted yet to work with the newest KSP version.

 

PS: A thread about the exact same topic was just 7 threads blow yours:

 

i tried the same thing with stock wheels, still the same problem. and they are adapted too the newest ksp version. but still, its a shame that it cant be fixed. maybe if there was some hacky way of doing it, or with a plugin maybe, but oh well. 

[nli2work]

you can't get rid of it... best you can do is turn off clip detection. try dialing down WHEEL_CLIP_RANGE/_CLIP_MULTIPLIER settings in settings.cfg

Edited May 21, 2016 by nli2work

[IvanSanchez]

1 hour ago, Nils277 said:

I see that the wheels you used are not stock ones. From which mod are they? Maybe they are not adapted yet to work with the newest KSP version.

They look exactly like the "M1-A2 Grizzly" wheels from the Buffalo MSCV. According to the mod's thread, there is some issue about wheels being blocked.

[J.Random]

5 hours ago, nli2work said:

try dialing down WHEEL_CLIP_RANGE/_CLIP_MULTIPLIER settings in settings.cfg

Really BAD idea. Unless you like krakens.

[nli2work]

3 minutes ago, J.Random said:

Really BAD idea. Unless you like krakens.

yeap. blocked wheels or krakens. pick your poision. Dialing it down by 10% can help some border line cases. 

Edited May 21, 2016 by nli2work

[FungusForge]

Yeah, I used the pre-release, and let me tell you, blocked wheels is a whole lot better than a kraken possession that destroys the craft.

[stupid_chris]

Oh boy. Here we go again.

No no no. There is a reason that this is there, and trust me it's miles better than no blocking. Unity5 just hates wheels, and this is a pretty good compromise if you ask me.

[Dr. Jet]

Wheel blocking has no connection with actual "WheelCollider"s and their "Kraken". It's a byproduct of sloppy "collisionEnchancer" colliders which don't match visible mesh. 

It NEEDS to be de-bugged.

Edited June 3, 2016 by Dr. Jet

[sarbian]

2 hours ago, Dr. Jet said:

Wheel blocking has no connection with actual "WheelCollider"s and their "Kraken". It's a byproduct of sloppy "collisionEnchancer" colliders which don't match visible mesh. 

It NEEDS to be de-bugged.

...

It has everything to do with it. Look at where the collider are in game, not oustside it.

 

[Dr. Jet]

16 hours ago, sarbian said:

Look at where the collider are in game

How? 

BTW WheelCollider is a flat circle, it CANNOT be the reason of clipping.

Edited June 4, 2016 by Dr. Jet

[nli2work]

KSP checks 1.05 * WheelRadius sphere from the center of wheelCollider, if there are any colliders from other parts in range, the wheel is blocked.

Edited June 4, 2016 by nli2work

[sarbian]

5 hours ago, Dr. Jet said:

How? 

BTW WheelCollider is a flat circle, it CANNOT be the reason of clipping.

 

[Dr. Jet]

As I said, collisionEnchancers are BADLY misplaced on TR-2L wheel. 

And those are still Blocked:Yes.

[Angelo Kerman]

1 hour ago, Dr. Jet said:

As I said, collisionEnchancers are BADLY misplaced on TR-2L wheel. 

 

And those are still Blocked:Yes.

How did you get that screenshot? Is there a mod that shows the colliders?

[JPLRepo]

1 hour ago, Angel-125 said:

How did you get that screenshot? Is there a mod that shows the colliders?

Yes. two posts up. Sarbian's debugstuff mod. It's great.

[Angelo Kerman]

6 minutes ago, JPLRepo said:

Yes. two posts up. Sarbian's debugstuff mod. It's great.

Oh that's awesome, thanks.