Yet another BDA dogfighting competition

[drtricky]

@Eidahlil@Eidahlil Thanks for hosting these fights! I just have one question: Can I modify my fighter, even though it's KOTH? I'll admit I didn't give it a proper shakedown test, and I don't like how long it's firing its guns.

[NotAnAimbot]

Wow, how many guns does the invader have? That's heavy 20mm fire lol

 

Also pls disqualify f-42 since its ingame.name is not the same as its submitted name ))))))

(Jk)

Edited December 4, 2017 by NotAnAimbot

[Andetch]

54 minutes ago, Eidahlil said:

You're always welcome to reenter.

I probably will..... Gotta do some more R&D. Currently I have set up 5 SAM sites around KSC and am trying to takeoff in the Snub... I can do it by hand, auto pilot, nope. Then again, I am good at flying near mach 1 under 100M he

[DoctorDavinci]

1 hour ago, Andetch said:

Also, anyone wanna confirm what the pitch KI lider does in autopilot? Not able to find an explanation online, it seems is out of date? Is this the pitch limiter control?

 

1 hour ago, exbyde said:

Look up PID loops. It basically describes how an aircraft responds to a change in input. If PIDs are wrong, your aircraft wobbles or doesn't respond enough.

Take a look at our BDPedia (KSPedia) in game for info on AI settings 

I haven't put pitchKI in yet but it is a PID controller that will help stabilize your craft if it is floppy while flying ... each craft will respond differently to this setting

Pro Tip - set pitchKI to zero as a starting point and test at different speeds ... if your pitch keps wobbling then adjust the pitchKI to compensate for the wobble

[Eidahlil]

39 minutes ago, drtricky said:

@Eidahlil@Eidahlil Thanks for hosting these fights! I just have one question: Can I modify my fighter, even though it's KOTH? I'll admit I didn't give it a proper shakedown test, and I don't like how long it's firing its guns.

I'd rather not, one time would be fine, but if everyone started to do it, things would get confusing quickly. If somebody beats you because of that, you can just reenter, though I doubt the firing pattern makes that much of a difference.

[Guest]

Here we go!

https://kerbalx.com/dundun92/F-10-Striker

Edited December 4, 2017 by Guest

[Guest]

The f-38 super bullet:

https://kerbalx.com/dundun93/F-38-Super-Bullet

[Eidahlil]

@drtricky's F-42 Invader vs @dundun92's F-10 Striker battle is in:

 

 

[Guest]

@Eidahlil, could you remove the canards? I dont have access to my ksp computer until friday.

[Eidahlil]

Just now, dundun92 said:

@Eidahlil, could you remove the canards? I dont have access to my ksp computer until friday.

Rule 1.3, sorry cannot help you. We might still be running by Friday though.

8 hours ago, Eidahlil said:

3. I will not modify your craft. That's what we have you for.

 

17 minutes ago, dundun93 said:

The f-38 super bullet:

https://kerbalx.com/dundun93/F-38-Super-Bullet

Craft contains parts from other mods (KerbalX says Airplane Plus). Let me know when it's updated.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Eidahlil said:

Rule 1.3, sorry cannot help you. We might still be running by Friday though.

 

Craft contains parts from other mods (KerbalX says Airplane Plus). Let me know when it's updated.

Ok.

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Eidahlil said:

Rule 1.3, sorry cannot help you. We might still be running by Friday though.

 

Craft contains parts from other mods (KerbalX says Airplane Plus). Let me know when it's updated.

https://kerbalx.com/dundun93/F-34-Bullet

 

Edited December 4, 2017 by Guest

[MiffedStarfish]

1 hour ago, NotAnAimbot said:

f-42

Wait there is another F-42? Goddamnit that is the name of my newest fighter.

Edited December 4, 2017 by MiffedStarfish

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, MiffedStarfish said:

Wait there is another F-42? Goddamnit that is the name of my new seat fighter.

Edited December 4, 2017 by Guest

[Guest]

https://kerbalx.com/dundun92/F-1100@Eidahlil, try this one. Ignore the FAR, it works in stock aero. 

Edited December 4, 2017 by Guest

[Eidahlil]

@drtricky's F-42 Invader vs @dundun93's F-34 Bullet battle is in:

 

 

[Guest]

18 minutes ago, dundun92 said:

https://kerbalx.com/dundun92/F-1100@Eidahlil, try this one. Ignore the FAR, it works in stock aero. 

That is sooooo cute but funny!

[NotAnAimbot]

Just as personal etiquette and not a rule, make sure to test your planes before submitting. It would save OP a lot of time.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, NotAnAimbot said:

Just as personal etiquette and not a rule, make sure to test your planes before submitting. It would save OP a lot of time.

My plane dogfighed in that godurans thread and wasn't in last place!

@Eidahlil:

https://kerbalx.com/dundun93/F-60-Super-Eagle

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, NotAnAimbot said:

Just as personal etiquette and not a rule, make sure to test your planes before submitting. It would save OP a lot of time.

Yeah, I should have. At least I know know the one I just entered works.

[Eidahlil]

@drtricky's F-42 Invader vs @dundun92's F-1100 battle is in:

 

 

[Guest]

9 minutes ago, Eidahlil said:

@drtricky's F-42 Invader vs @dundun92's F-1100 battle is in:

 

 

Oh...

[Eidahlil]

Well, spoilers, but new rule: "If a plane demonstrates crippling control issues during battle, one round will be enough."

So @drtricky's F-42 Invader vs @dundun93's F-60 Super Eagle is in:

 

[drtricky]

2 minutes ago, Eidahlil said:

*snip*

If I'm correct, that rolling issue can be solved by showing the CoM and CoL in the hangar. It's a bug with KSP.

That won't solve its aerodynamic instability, though.

Edited December 4, 2017 by drtricky

[Eidahlil]

6 minutes ago, drtricky said:

If I'm correct, that control issue can be solved by showing the CoM and CoL in the hangar. It's a bug with KSP.

Very interesting. I will test that, and if it turns out to be correct, there may be a rematch coming.

EDIT: If I understood that correctly, it does not seem to be the case. It's just that the plane has a lot of control surfaces, weak aerodynamic stability, steer factor is too high, steer damping is too low, and it just ambles about. They also took quite a while to get close together enough for competition to start in the first match.

Spoiler

 

 

Edited December 4, 2017 by Eidahlil