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Yes same as usual, it's better not to modify Rg in the config tool, leave it at default, scale Rt and Rl accordingly, then copy everything to the game and it will resize automatically to any planet.

The approach I was using last time is just not the right way to do it (basically just offseting the ocean level for seaparate parts every physics frame, which is flawed for multiple reasons). Last I checked nothing in the water physics changed from last time I attempted this and I'm still convinced I'd need to write my own buoyancy engine to get this working correctly. Which is not a simple task and also a field I know nothing about. I would have to spend a long time just researching and experimenting. And while this is interesting I'm not going to do it anytime soon

Planned for the future, and I want to do it the right way, not just adding a fake atmo etc

The one I posted above will work, however copy thr configs from the other experimental build, I didn't realize I left the ssrss configs in there. You also need to put settings for cloud color multiplier, extinction multiplier and scattering multiplier, copy them from the previous experimental version.

That's the kind of education I wish I got in school...

It's funny how many of us continuously check this forum from work/class.

It wasn't, it's only required for the ring shader. But yeah, go ahead and try this version, and if it still doesn't work try without clouds on Jool or try with SSRSS saturn since it works for me.

No, that is part of the kopernicus ring shader (still unreleased), what you should see with scatterer is the ring shadow on the planet and not the opposite, I should've made it clear. Edited: Seems to work with the default ring shader. I haven't tried with clouds yet though. But while we're at it, why don't you guys try my modified Kopernicus with the ring shader as well: Modified scatterer with ring shadows (recompiled to be sure): https://mega.nz/#!nMAzGDDY!kzcS9D3ek_MWmni5IKyTmVLdmrMgW8RmyO6morb7UGk Modified Kopernicus with ring shader and planet shadow on ring: https://mega.nz/#!3VRwTApR!Yq77_1nhHSXY1LA1n06V8YQgQfmc15q3LTejXdlFPXs Known issues: -Planet shadow on ring will be coming from the wrong direction if you are looking at it in track station or in mapview when your ship is orbiting a far away planet. You'll need a ship orbiting said planet with rings to be sure, this will be fixed. -Rings and ring shadows may show some aliasing. -Ring shading may look very bland if rings are more or less coplanar with sun direction Also, remember to disable the unlit option in kopernicus. Pinging @Galileo

Looking at the log it looks like everything should have worked this time. I'm thinking maybe the shadows are rendering under the clouds and are totally covered. Or something else is wrong, I will check this when I get home.

Oh I just checked the log and realized I missed something. I will make another version soon. Edited: @Galileo try this for the ring shadow: https://mega.nz/#!XFYiVKra!5kqG-oNjpnh3npgZ423uQAi4mey6S1wrzlzIx4HKmyI Oh, and about auroras, so currently in scatterer they show up only the lit side correct? In EVE do they show up on both sides or only on the dark side? Also, assuming they show up only on the lit side would it be better if they showed up at the dark side only?

Can you send me your output log? Is the option for Kopernicus ring shadows enabled? Are those rings on Jool? Do they have any inclination at all? If they're perfectly parallel to Jool's orbital plane you will see at best a straight line shadow on the equator or just a bunch of aliasing dots (it's quite unfortunate imo that almost everything stock has zero inclination, although it makes sense for accessibility reasons)

It's planned anyway.

No it's fine, I already use blitting in the ocean and the custom depth buffer. It's fine really the blit operation in itself isn't expensive. This blog looks like a good read btw. I will see what I can do. I feel that a lot of people here highly overestimate my abilities though Edited: I have a new experimental version I'd like you guys to test. It includes -Improved EVE integration, new cloud shaders appear to be working well for me now with SVE ( @Galileo please check if you still have issues on your side) -Ring shadows (new kopernicus ring shader isn't released yet but you should now be able to see ring shadows on the scatterer atmosphere even with the old ring shader) -Removed ocean and postprocessing effects from Texture Replacer's reflections (they looked messed up) -Fixed OpenGL on windows -Fixed ocean reflections and whitecaps Link: https://mega.nz/#!DNhFQRob!r-A6X2ziBsH9Q1H5ldbYtoNaO0p1XoP8gFM9aTtDzfs (also added in the OP)

Hmm, I remember I used to have this from kerbal foundries, maybe like a year ago or more though. How are you implementing it?

Cool, how was this never adapted for rover tracks?

You might have to wait for a really long time.

OpenGL is broken on windows, use directx11 I'm planning to do this at one point, but there is a whole bunch of stuff I need to get done first for this to work correctly. So what needs to be done here? Are these features that were never finished or just never ported to newer versions of the game/kopernicus? And btw what is this footprint feature? is it what I think it is? Does anyone have screens? I will take a look, I thought everything was working well from what you guys said last time.

Hmm, I'm surprised by the number of people who actually want DoF, usually it's the first option I disable in any game.

Yeah seasons might be a bit more complicated... However I would like to know what kind of other shaders you guys would like to see in the game, eg other shaders for Kopernicus or stuff like that.

They shouldn't, literally just a plane-ray intersection calculation and a texture fetch. But as always, it depends on your hardware. Should have about as much impact as the eclipses.

Just got ring shadows working, here is a quick image dump using saturn from @Galileo's SSRSS. Sorry for bad compression The rings and the shadows are a bit aliased and a bit rough but I suspect mipmapping or manually doing something similar should fix it. Shadows are also a bit weak, may need to boost them a bit instead of just using the ring texture alpha value. Also, I still need to fade the rings into fine particles/noise when zooming in on them.

I'm assuming the rings are not completely matte/opaque and instead made of small particles and/or ice. Therefore I added a bit of mie scattering when seen from the back and took some liberties with the shading relative to the light source. Will still adjust it later if it feels wrong. Look here:

Close on the second line, trying to figure out shadows. What you're seeing on the planet is the UV coordinates (technically only one coordinate needed for the ring texture) of the point on the ring that that is casting the shadow on the planet, completely black areas on the planet are areas not receiving any ring shadows. Map black to the right of say, a ring texture like this and white to the left, then take (1-alpha) and it should be good. All that's left is to do a texture fetch, however it seems I can't grab the ring texture directly from the ring material itself. Getting a grey texture instead so might have to use C# reflection again. Will post more pics when I make more progress.

Who can guess what's going on here?

I will look into it. There is a mod called adjust ambient light or something, it does that.