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There are 2 just NRO and PLAIN Edit:Re-downloaded and loaded, same issues and only two orbiters Plain and NRO

No I guess maybe its because I downloaded it from the first page? EDIT:Thats not it I just read every page of this thread. I don't know what it is, all I know is that Real Chute makes the craft files work. Also, the issues I addressed above seem to have been fixed like the SRB separation. When I separate the SRBs they nearly collide with the orbiter and they seperation motors barely do anything. So maybe there is an old version in the download link? IDK, it doesn't bother me I just like watching the real space shuttle fly and being able to fly it with out it shaking like a paint shaker into the ground.

I don't know if these things have been said but these are my thoughts. First I have to say well done. The Space Shuttle is such an important part the history of space and rocketry I am surprised there aren't more replicas and mods dedicated to the Space Shuttle. We have dozens of Saturn V mods, everyone has recreated and made replicas of the LEO launch vehicles for satellites ie atlas, delta, arienne, etc. but the a proper space shuttle gets no respect. So I am very happy this is being resurrected again. Now I don't know what the plans are in the future but the required MODS to make this work again are too much atleast consolidation and integration into the Gamedata folder should be whats next. Do you need the entire Lazor system and every part from the Klockheed Martian? Can't you do what KSO has done with Klockheed? Is there an alternative way to make smoke effects because it runs perfectly without smokescreen and once I put smokesreen in and the fps noticeably drops. Catch 22 is that without smokescreen it looks really unrealistic. I don't know if its just be but the SRBs need particle effects when the separate and they need to separate with a lot more force. What about the SRBs from Bobcats American Pack or even the Tiberdyne SRB separators. These are just my thoughts a lot of work needs to get done but again I am just really happy this mod is getting back on its feet. It needs a lot of work but it is still really close to being what it needs to be. One final thought and it kinda trvial but the shuttle needs names and graphics. Its bad luck. I don't know how hard it is make it so we can pick the name of each orbiter but if you have to choose one my personal opinion is that it should be Discovery. If you ask any one from NASA during the shuttle era Discovery was the work horse, most reliable, and best shuttle. It had the most launches, it had the most important missions, and its the oldest surviving shuttle.

You should add that Real Chute is a requirement

Here is an idea! Pacific Rim suits?!

Oh man those are awesome!! I wish they would be in combo with SRI but real life always comes first. Still a damn shame that MOD wont be completed, at least not in the foreseeable future.

not being impatient, any updates?

Exactly!!! Just don't lose interest before you finish lol.

I cant even describe to you how excited I am about this MOD. I know it would probably be a completely different MOD but what would it take to make the a battle damaged Voyager AKA "The Year From Hell" Voyager? Anyway good luck and keep up the good work.

It doesn't seem like it but I have been tricked a few times thus far. I didnt think SRI would die just because of what they had done. It seems like its 80% done. So you seem like you're going to finish it I just need to gauge my expectations.

http://www.iflscience.com/space/us-air-forces-secret-space-plane-continues-mystify

Even though SRI is dead for now can you release the suits you were going to make or at the very least torture us with pictures of what could have been?

Take your time please! I want this thing NOW but I know if I am patient and I wait it will be all the better. I just don't want it to die. I have been on these forums for 2 months now and I have had my heart broken a lot with beautiful MODS that just die or get unfinished. Real life is of course more important, but its so much of a tease Singularity Research Initiative has got to be the worst loss so far. Just don't break my heart ok.

Is there going to be a lifter for this wonderful ship or are we going to have to build our own? I am not saying you have to I am just curious as to if you are making one.

Will the dennys LRV be included in the final?

I don't know how you can say that SLS isn't safer than the shuttle. The space shuttles most fatal flaw was being downgrade of everything. As was the failure of columbia and challenger, along with the fact that there was no way to do an emergency abort with the space shuttle. Also to one of your other points about the survivability of an enormous explosion, I think that you can agree that the oribter could not have gotten any closer to the source of the explosion during challenger and their is good evidence that the crew survived the explosion. The emergency oxygen was masks were used and the recovered data said that the from the pilot seat Scobee was trying to fly that thing all the way to the ground. So if the shuttle had some sort of emergency escape system they might have lived. The fact that the Challenger crew survived means that if there is an explosion I would much rather be at the top and in a capsule than in a orbiter strapped to the side. It worked for a very long time but it was just a horrible design in terms of safety. With Columbia, because the vehicle was downgrade it was extremely vulnerable to falling debris and it was only a matter of time before something struck the heat shield. Believe it or not most launches the ship returned with tiles missing. The very first launch the ship returned with nearly 100 tiles missing. These issues are unique to the Space Shuttle and that vehicle served NASA very well for over 30 years with only two catastrophic failures both due in large part to the location of the orbiter on the rocket and that there was no ability to abort or detach from the ship. Wasn't there a plan to make it so that the crew cabin could detach from the orbiter in case of a catastrophic failure to the orbiter? It would have saved both crews. The SLS will be the safest ship NASA has ever made to fly because of the political reasons you mentioned. People might be able to accept the loss of a spacecraft but the loss of a crew would be a death blow to NASA. They are not going to launch a ship that kills the program!

I honestly don't know what the arguments are right now? Is it that you object to the SLS because of the SRB's and that we should wait to develop a more advanced type of propulsion to get us into space? Because I as well find Solid Rockets to be inherently unsafe. However in terms of generating massive amounts of thrust efficiently currently there are few alternatives. Without proper funding we just can't wait for alternative forms of propulsion to catch up with the necessity for manned space flight. Currently SpaceX is on amazing pace in bringing us back into low earth orbit and docking with the ISS without relying on the Soyuz. But if we want to get back to exploring our solar system and beyond we need to get back there sooner rather than later. Would have Apollo been better off if they had waited another 5 to 10 years for the technology to be better? Of course! They went to the Moon at a time where they had no realistic business going to the Moon. They shouldn't have gone it was dangerous, impossible, illogical, and impractical. But they did and that is what NASA is about. We are destined to explore and question. It is in our DNA to want to know what is going on the in universe. So as much as technology has advanced from Apollo to today are we still really fully prepared to truly reach for the stars and begin deep space missions? No but we should do it "not because it is easy but because it is hard" not because we don't have the technology, but do it however we can, because it needs to get done and because we should do it, and in 50 years people will be talking about how we had no business going to Mars and beyond because the technology was primitive but we did it and it was amazing. The other issue is we can't dwell on failure. NASA especially is not going to launch a vehicle into space that is beyond the acceptable risk for manned space flight. NASA has an impeccable track record when it comes to the manned program. Out of the hundreds of manned launches there has only been one catastrophic failure that resulted in the loss of life at launch, and by most accounts the reasons for the Challenger disaster go beyond damaged or defective o'rings. The true failure of Challenger was entirely political. Time constraints, budget cuts, delays, and the launch schedule for military projects being extremely behind resulted in ignoring a problem that dozens of NASA engineers and scientists expressed concerns about. Any concerns directed towards the SLS by us lay people have been addressed, are being addressed, solved and readdressed by all of the amazing and brilliant people at NASA. NASA is not going to put a single soul inside of that Orion capsule until it has been tested hundreds of times and then retested. So we can talk about mitigating risk via different forms of propulsion, but whatever NASA chooses I think we can all rest assured it is the most realistic and safest choice for a launch system.

Lets just be clear the SLS is basically a modern twist on the Saturn V. It is a huge heavy lift rocket with the potential to rocket astronauts and payloads into deep space. If you compare it to the Saturn V the only reason it is shorter is because it doesn't have a LEM. NASA has gone back to what it knows which is designing HUGE rockets. The issue right now is funding. If NASA were to be properly funded or even get 40% of what they got during the space race to get us to the moon we could be back on the moon within the next two years and launching a mars mission before the end of the decade. Now I love the SLS I think its a great way to get us back launching rockets I just want it sooner rather than later.

Now is there official concept art for the mars transport is going to look like? Because if thats your design it is amazing!!! If it is an official spacex design I am even more excited because that is going to be epic and you are amazing. Cant wait and amazing work!

Like everyone else I am very disappointed but real life is of course more important. If you get the time one day please please please finish this! In the end it is just a game. Good Luck and I hope to see this thread opened again one day in the future. Best of Luck

i think I would have to agree its a great idea but without the proper holes or nozzles its pretty unrealistic and would be unappealing to a lot of people. That shouldn't matter but I imagine alot of people download your landing capsule because of how realistic it is. Perhaps a solution could be like what bobcat did for the HOME module? there were four slots to fill and you could pick and choose what universally fit. So the player will have to make decisions about what the priorities are. Do I stick a mechjeb in there or do I want rcs engines and monoprop? Sepratrons or science? It will add some strategy and customization to the capsule. I will probably like it either way, I do appreciate realism but I know a good mod when I see one and I won't not download it because its unrealistic.

That's why I am saying spacex has the right idea!

Why do that? Knowing the success, efficiency, and power the Russians had and have with closed cycle engines why use the inefficient gas guzzlers? I mean beautiful and powerful but extremely in efficient.

No it happens when I go from eva to Iva. It also happens sometimes when switch to map view.

Is f1b a closed cycle engine?