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Can you post the full exception details please? I don't need the 40-60 times a second... assuming they are all the same error. and to clarify how I re-produce this error and the circumstances.. you crash a vessel.. and the dialog box comes up but this error continues until you click the box to get the flight results?

Snacks It does not consume snacks for frozen kerbals, but has a small issue as well where the ship supply screen does not update when you freeze crew unless you switch vessels or game scene. Working on a fix.

Thanks for the info. Can't wait 'til they fix EC, requestresource and timewarp issues. Unity 5 though will bring so much more awesomeness. but yes a lot of re-work.

TAC LS already has this 'feature'. No it doesn't help but thanks for the input. - - - Updated - - - There are no stupid questions... There are so many life support mods.. another one... I have tested with TAC LS and reviewed the code of some others. But I'm very happy for the community to help out with this. That would be great, as I just don't have all the time to set-up test KSP installs with ALL the Life Support mods and test everyone one of them. In fact, I have only really ever used TAC LS myself so I also have to become familiar with each of them as well.

Hey, yes I did re-use a chunk of code originally.. This mod was my first foray into code cutting for about 10+ years. I'm not sure I gave credit in the code for it. But I used bits of code from all over the place. I'll check I have included credit to your code on the weekend in the source. do you have a link to the info about ResourceRequest? Assume this is on their bug log? - This would be awesome if they do fix it. I haven't gone back to the fusebox code and I have changed it a fair bit. It was a once-off. I've learnt a fair bit since I did this mod update and I'd probably like to go back and fix it up but don't have the time at the moment. thanks again.

Lol. I feel a bit guilty. The instructions were there from the start but I changed them to bold after your post for us "older" people who might miss it.

Ok, I got bored and forked TAC LS, made the changes, sent a pull request to TaranisElsu. Source of my change is here. To fix TAC LS to work with DeepFreeze: 1) Install TAC LS and DeepFreeze (if you haven't already). 2) go to this link and click "view raw" - yes this message isn't intuitive. This will download the ZIP file with the fixed DLLs in it. 3) Install the two DLLs in the ZIP file to "<yourKSPinstallDIR>\GameData\ThunderAerospace\TacLifeSupport\" directory (ENSURE YOU OVERWRITE existing files). 4) Done. TAC LS will now correctly ignore frozen Kerbals and won't retrospectively consume life support when they are thawed out. I have no intention on maintaining my fork. I hope TaranisElsu will merge my changes into his mod fairly soon. Will let everyone know when he does. The ZIP file contains just the two DLLs and the TAC LS LICENSE file which permits me to do this.

Thanks Papa_Joe for taking the time to document this... I took the simple route of putting the simple approach in the install notes in the OP. The instructions above are for advanced users. I promise to do my best to ensure all future versions are not game breaking.. but there is always a time when you are adding major changes that it will. But hopefully that will not be for a while.

Thanks guys, I had thought about all of this. But I knew TaranisElsu was working on a new version too.. Let's see if he responds next day or two.

I have not tested with this mod. But I just took a look at the code (I wouldn't be able to actually test it until the weekend? now), it would appear this mod checks the vessel for active crew to calculate the snacks requirements. Given DeepFreeze REMOVES frozen kerbals from the vessel's active crew then I would say YES it is compatible. Happy for you to test it.

Perhaps?... TAC LS loads and updates a list of active kerbals per vessel on game load startup. It keeps track off this list and saves it in the save file. It consumes LS resources based on this list. It adds new kerbals when it finds them in active vessels... it NEVER expects them to disappear or die outside to TAC LS. It remembers for each kerbal when they last consumed resources. DeepFreeze makess kerbals disappear (freeze).. TAC LS doesn't recognize this condition. so it knows about them and remembers the last time they consumed resources. When I thaw them, TAC LS sees them again and calculates LS usage from the last time they consumed them and takes the resources. The key here is the first line, TAC LS saves this list in the save game file. When you re-load the save game TAC LS UPDATES this list from the games active kerbals. So if Jeb was frozen when I save the game TAC LS saves Jeb's state in the save game file. But when I go back to the main menu and re-load the save game TAC LS will look for Jeb, not find him, and remove him from it's list... So then when I thaw Jeb TAC LS won't know about the last time he consumed resources.. and will just start consuming resources for him again from the money he is thawed. anyway, I've PM'd TaranisElsu and posted a message into the TAC LS Thread... Hoping he will respond soon and make a small change. But I noticed he is busy working on a new enhanced version of TAC LS. So let's see how and when he responds. For now the work around - works... To re-iterate for TAC LS just save/go back to the main menu and re-load your save every time BEFORE you thaw any kerbals.

Yes TAC needs a change to forget frozen kerbals otherwise it retrospectively consumes resources when you thaw kerbals. But the work-around works. It "shouldn't" break vessels, but I put in the install notes better to be safe than sorry.. The internals were changed on the part. I am not sure if that breaks existing vessels and craft file? Can't check now, not near home. - - - Updated - - - Thanks dude. Basic test I did seemed to work ok but if anything comes up will let you know. Was thinking how do I make glykerol mineable or rather refinable in a future release. So if I get to that I might drop you a line for some tips. Thanks again.

Hi TaranisElsu, JPLRepo here.. I just did the first full release version of DeepFreeze Continued... This mod is designed to work with life support mods like TAC LS (my fav) to cryogenic freeze kerbals for long space journeys. The idea is while they are frozen they don't consume life support resources. DeepFreeze works great with TAC LS except one small feature? of TAC LS - there is an internal table in TAC LS that stores all the kerbals in each vessel that you use to consume resources. When DeepFreeze freezes a kerbal the kerbal is removed from the vessel, which is great because TAC LS stops consuming resources for them... but the problem is when the kerbal is thawed in DeepFreeze TAC LS sees them again, finds them in it's internal table and calculates life support usage since the time they were frozen (removed from the vessel). I as wondering if it would be at all possible for you to make a change to TAC LS to support DeepFreeze? As I really see our mods going hand in hand for a full game experience. It's a pretty small change, basically TAC LS just has to recognize when a kerbal gets frozen and remove them from it's internal list. That way when they are added back when they are thawed it won't retrospectively consume LS for them. Thanks muchly! BTW: Your new screen shots for your upcoming new version look awesome.. perhaps you can include DeepFreeze support in that version if it's not too far away? Thanks again. EDIT: Forgot to mention the change would be to recognize frozen kerbals and remove them from TAC LS table. There is no frozen status within the confines of KSP, so the way DeepFreeze does it is to set frozen kerbal to a type of Unknown (from type of Crew) and a status of Dead. When they are thawed, it changes them back. I did my own private version of TAC LS and achieved this change with just a couple of lines of code which I am happy to send to you. Cheers. EDIT: I have forked TAC LS and made changes to make this mod compatible with DeepFreeze and submittted a pull request. Details of the DeepFreeze API can be found here.

Thanks! Hope you like. MerlinsMaster is madly working on finishing the internals and thanks for all your support to make your mods compatibile with this as well.

It is tweakable. Just change the vales in the freezer part's config file. EDIT: the EC is tweakable. The glykerol is currently hard coded - next version Added a part Tweaks section to the OP.

Thanks. I already have a fix installed personally.. I just need TaranisElsu to respond and make a small change and all would be good. - - - Updated - - - Thanks. More coming soon, MerlinsMaster is working on completing the Internals and textures as well as some more smaller freezer models. - - - Updated - - - Absolutely, that's the idea. This mod needs to work with as many of the Life Support mods there are out there. Without those mods, this mod isn't really doing much.

Ok, First official release of DeepFreeze Continued... is up and running. Go to the new Forum OP for further details and upload. Please post all new posts on the new Forum thread for DeepFreeze Continued...

DeepFreeze... This mod provides the ability to freeze and thaw kerbals for those long space journeys. Introduces glykerol resource used for freezing kerbals. To freeze a kerbal you must have 5 glykerol units (configurable via part.cfg or settings menu) and 3000 electrical charge (configurable via part.cfg or settings menu) per kerbal. To thaw a kerbal you must have 3000 electrical charge (configurable via part.cfg or settings menu) per kerbal. This is the on-going release and development version of the original concept developed by @scottpaladin. The mod has progressed way beyond that original concept and contains very little of the original concept development code and parts. Due to other commitments Scott indicated to me some time ago that he has little time and unlikely to continue any mod work on KSP into the future and has given me permission and well wishes to continue that initial work. As per the terms of the original license full credit to forum user scottpalladin PaladinLabs for the original concept, ideas and first versions of the mod. The license continues under the same license conditions. The release version will be known as DeepFreeze Continued... Uses:When kerbals are frozen they do not consume life support resources. If you don't use life support mods, this mod doesn't really do much, except provide a few cool parts and ability to thaw and freeze kerbals. Features: Compatible with TAC Life Support, USI Life Support, Snacks, Interstellar Flight Inc and Kerbalism!. Small 1.25M in-line CRY-0300 DeepFreezer for 1 kerbal (with animated internals, animated external doors, and TRANSPARENT doors - Yes see the Internals from the outside). CRY-0300 has an on-board Glykerol tank which can store up to 10 units of Glykerol. Small radial CRY-0300R DeepFreezer for 1 kerbal (with TRANSPARENT pod window - Yes see the Internals from the outside). CRY-0300R has an on-board Glykerol tank which can store up to 10 units of Glykerol. Medium 2.5M in-line CRY-1300 DeepFreezer for up to 3 kerbals (with animated internals). CRY-1300 has an on-board Glykerol tank which can store up to 15 units of Glykerol. Large 2.5M in-line CRY-2300 DeepFreezer for up to 10 kerbals (with animated internals). CRY-2300 has an on-board Glykerol tank which can store up to 50 units of Glykerol. RS-X20R radial glykerol tank for up to 20 units of extra glykerol storage. Full featured GUI allowing you to see all frozen kerbals and freeze/thaw kerbals. Kerbals can also be frozen/thawed via part right click menu. ANIMATED CRYOPODS. Yes - Animated Cryopods! See for yourself. When you Freeze or Thaw from external view, you will see the Pod open/close in the portrait cameras. If you are in IVA/Internal mode when you freeze/thaw the camera will switch to an internal camera viewing the pod of the kerbal you are about to freeze/thaw. It will then animate open/close of the cryopod. Yes the internals change. All Rep to @MerlinsMaster for his Amazing!! Internal modelling and texturing. You can switch around all the un-frozen kerbals seat cameras to take a look around. There are also alternate internal cameras via Alt-D. Remote Tech is supported - Detects if RT is installed and if it is:- You cannot thaw kerbals unless you have active crew on-board or an active connection to your vessel if un-kerbal'd. When you attempt to freeze your last active crew on-board, you are given a warning that you will need an active crew on-board or active connection to thaw kerbals - you then have to click thaw a second time to confirm your action. You cannot modify KAC - DeepFreeze Continued Alarms unless your vessel is crewed or connected. Provides monitoring capability of frozen kerbals at a cost of Electrical Charge. WARNING!! - use of this feature means kerbals will die if you run out of electrical charge if you set the fatal option to on. A non-fatal option is available. To use this feature you must change thesettings as the default for this feature is off. EC usage to keep kerbals alive NOW DOES (from V0.18) operate when vessel they are aboard is not the active vessel. But it will only drain up to 95% of your EC when you switch to the vessel without BackgroundProcessing installed. If you optionally install the BackgroundProcessing mod then EC usage is processed even if your vessel is NOT the active vesel. EC usage turns off for all vessels when timewarp is > 4x due to bugs in EC usage at high timewarp. Temperature Checking function (switch on and off via config settings: RegTempReqd = true/false). If switched on the Freezer Part temperature must be < the RegTempFreeze value (in settings)to be able to freeze a kerbal. If switched on you must maintain the Freezer part temperature BELOW the RegTempMonitor (in settings) value. If you do not, then there is a good chance the freezer will fail and your kerbals WILL start dying if you have the EC fatal option turned on. If switched on Freezing/Thawing and Holding Frozen Kerbals will cause the freezer parts to produce Heat which you will then need to manage. - This function only operates on the active vessel as Temperature control on unloaded vessels is too risky in the current KSP version. If you wish to use this function, do so at your own risk.. (or rather the Kerbals) and use a heat control mod and parts like this one. If that's not all, NEW from Version 0.18 of DeepFreeze Continued... now includes Kerbal Alarm Clock (KAC) mod integration. If you have KAC installed you can bring up a list of all KAC alarms attached to the active vessel and assign DeepFreeze Thaw and Freeze events to the alarm. So when the alarm fires in KAC, DeepFreeze will automatically execute whatever Thaw and Freeze commands you have attached to that alarm. This ONLY works once the alarm fires and you switch to the vessel that these events are attached to (if it isn't already the active vessel). DeepFreeze will remember these commands forever and execute them once you switch to this vessel but keep reminding you to do so until you do switch to the vessel or you delete the alarm from within Deepfreeze (not KAC). If you also have Remote Tech mod installed you can only modify DeepFreeze alarm events if the associated vessel has a valid remote connection or a kerbal in command. DeepFreeze will however execute your alarms even if the vessel does not have a connection or kerbal in command as they are stored and executed by the on-board computer. RasterPropMonitor enabled light switches, door handles, and RPM Transparent Pod functionality. Full integration and support of Ship Manifest mod by Papa_Joe. -SM knows about Frozen Kerbals and also enables freeze and thaw for the SM crew GUI. Module Manager config file included for support of CLS mod supported by Papa_Joe. Localization texts for Russian and Spanish. For more information please refer to the new W.I.P. WIKI page. More Pics, More clicks Known Issues: Please report all issues/bugs/requests to github here. When inside the CRY-0300 with the External Doors closed, if you zoom out strange camera effects mean the door is only partially visible. When there is a Kerbal on the ladder in front of the CRY-0300 and the doors are open the Internal Overlays the kerbal and blocks them from view. This is actually a JSI AdvTransparentPods limitation for now. Support: Be a COOL PERSON and help me by raising bugs and feature requests on GitHub here. For support please ensure you are following these instructions. From now on I will NOT respond to requests for support if you have not at least attempted to follow these simple steps. NO LOG = NO SUPPORT. When I ask for a LOG I mean this LOG: KSP versions 1.8.0 and above: Windows: C:\Users\<username>\AppData\LocalLow\Squad\Kerbal Space Program\Player.log - This folder is usually hidden so you should enable the view hidden folders option (more information). Mac OSX: Open Console, on the left side of the window there is a menu that says 'files'. Scroll down the list and find the Unity drop down, under Unity there will be Player.log Aka Files>~/Library/Logs/Unity/Player.log Linux: The log is written to ~/.config/unity3d/Squad/Kerbal Space Program/Player.log Whilst I agree CKAN is a great mod for those that can't use Zip tools. I take no part, nor am I interested in maintaining the CKAN mod metadata for my mods. Please don't ask me about it but refer to the CKAN mod thread if you are having issues with CKAN or the metadata it maintains. Planned work/ideas: Re-vamp the GUI to use all the neat new Unity 5 capabilities with KSP 1.1. Like freeze and thaw direct from the portrait cams, and more. RPM enabled Cryopod Screens and buttons to control and Monitor DeepFreeze functions from Cryopods (possibly also Command pods). Extend Monitoring to include random maintenance/failure requirements for an Engineer to deal with. ISRU refining of Glykerol. Endurance Mod compatible Freezer part. For Other Modders: Information for other mods to recognize Frozen Kerbals is provided via the included Interface. More details for modders can be found here. Credits and License: License - Creative Commons 4.0 Share-Alike Attribution Non-Commercial license Full credit to the user known as ScottPalladin on the KSP forum for the original concept ideas and dev mod. Full credit to the amazing modelling work done by @MerlinsMaster Source code is located on github here. and here If you like my mods and you want to show your support, then you can support me on Patreon: Install Instructions: Download From SpaceDock, CurseForge, or Github. From version 0.26.0 DeepFreeze will consume and produce EC for unloaded vessels. EC Production currently only includes Solar Panels and Generators. You can turn off background resource processing in the Difficulty Settings for DeepFreeze. SpaceDock runs and makes mods available to you based purely on donation. If you don't want to pledge to me at least Consider pledging to keep SpaceDock going if you use it. You MUST manually delete any old installed version of DeepFreeze first from \Gamedata\REPOSoftTech\DeepFreeze Unzip into your Game install directory. Dependencies (MUST also be installed for DeepFreeze Continued... to function): If you are upgrading from a previous Version 0.16.0.0 and up of this mod please manually delete \GameDatREPOSoftTech\DeepFreeze before you install. Requires ModuleManager (this is no longer optional) - Now included in this package. Requires Community Resource Pack - Included in this package.CRP, and Community Resource Pack are (tm), and may not be used without permission. License for all configuration files is CC 4.0 BY SA NC BackgroundResources is functionality I wrote and include with this mod. It is NOT to be removed, if you do this mod WILL stop functioning. If you do NOT want background resource processing turn it off via the settings menu but do not remove it. For a more comprehensive version checking experience, please download the KSP-AVC Plugin Optional *but highly recommended: Highly Recommended to allow transparent CRY-0300 and CRY-0300R pod functions - but optional is JSI Advanced Transparent Pods. If you do not install JSI Advanced Transparent Pods than the CRY-0300 will act like the other parts and the External Doors will be disabled. Without JSI Advanced Transparent Pods installed the CRY-0300R window will appear permanently frozen. With Raster Prop Monitor (RPM) installed the internal IVA Props will work (light switches, External Door lever, EC and Glykerol Read-outs on all the parts). Kerbal Planetary Base Systems - Comes with the CRY-5000 DeepFreeze part for Base building and Freezing needs. You probably want a Life Support Mod. TACLS (V0.12.3 +). Snacks!, USI LifeSupport,Interstellar Flight Inc. (IFI) are fully supported. Kerbalism is now fully supported. Ship Manifest supported for crew transfers. Kerbal Alarm Clock for all your timed DeepFreeze needs. CLS supported (with supplied config file). Remote Tech is supported. See details in changelog. DeepFreeze respects Remote Tech connectivity for certain DeepFreeze functions to work. Changelog: Attributions Sound files remixed from the following sources: Tymaue - https://www.freesound.org/people/tymaue/sounds/79719/ KomradeJack - https://www.freesound.org/people/KomradeJack/sounds/213578/ AlaskaRobotics - https://www.freesound.org/people/AlaskaRobotics/sounds/221566/ JohnsonBrandediting - https://www.freesound.org/people/JohnsonBrandEditing/sounds/173932/ Oddworld - https://www.freesound.org/people/Oddworld/sounds/171246/ Benboncan - http://www.freesound.org/people/Benboncan/sounds/61792/ Halleck -http://www.freesound.org/people/Halleck/sounds/19485/ @nli2work on KSP forum - Internal Props - door handle, light switch, EC monitoring button, Glykerol monitoring button. @Artem Kerman on KSP forum - Russian texts. @fitiales on KSP forum - Spanish texts. Authors @JPLRepo : Plugin design and development, C# coding, Implementation and releases. @MerlinsMaster: Graphic design, 3D Models, textures.

Maybe. You will have to wait and see.

If you are using this version of the mod I am not surprised. I have been maintaining a caretaker version since KSP V0.90 here. If you are in fact using the latest version of the mod (currently 5.2) then you will need to post more information. But please do so in the new OP as per the link above. Follow these instructions for support.

I have thought about that, thanks. But:- a) he hasn't been on the forum since 22/12/2014 he hasn't been active on github since 30/04/2015 when he merged 2 pull requests from bear67 and made a comment of: "Hah, well it's more than I've been doing lately." - and that was it. I've done a lot of work on it in the past few weeks and MerlinsMaster is putting finishing touches on some models, I'm going to start a DeepFreeze Continued.. OP. Teaser pic of some of MerlinsMaster's awesome work on new internals for current part: If he returns and wants to support and take it back over, then I will be more than happy to discuss with him. The license is: "DeepFreeze is licensed under a Creative Commons 4.0 Share-Alike Attribution Non-Commercial license.", which means you are free to share and adapt (see the link) and DeepFreeze Continued.. will continue with the same license.

Getting very very close to a release candidate that works very well. Fixes bugs in the last version I did, works with Ship Manifest (that just got release). Added support for CLS mod. Which were the main focus from the above post. Still has the following Work pending: 1) Models and IVAs from MerlinsMAster (but that is still a few weeks away and will be in the release after this one). 2) New parts for different sizes (as per previous item). 3) Needs a fix in TACLS to work with TACLS - Can't do any more from a DeepFreeze point of view. Awaiting response from TaranisElsu on that. 4) Tanks for Glykerol. (work started) 5) Look into Temperature monitoring and performance affecting the Cryogenic Freezers. I'm thinking of starting up my own Post for this mod on the next release so I can change the heading (old heading still says .25) and calling it DeepFreeze Continued... What do people think?

Well done.

Yes. and MerlinsMaster is doing some models for IVA. Coming soon!

Thanks mate, but looking at the TACLS code it won't work. It doesn't check for dead kerbals. The code doesn't ever consider a crew member could die unless:- a) the vessel is removed/destroyed that they are on. TACLS actually kills them itself. The methods I posted work because of the way the code is written. To get the current version of TACLS to ignore your kerbals and not consume resources when you thaw them you can either:- Freeze on the launchpad (but as soon as you thaw them it will start tracking them) Freeze then exit the save and reload the save game (because it checks for missing kerbals on startup), so this is one work-around. I have PM'd TaranisElsu hoping he can make a small change to remove frozen kerbals from the TACLS tracking list. I've already done my own/private version of TACLS that has this change and it works.