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Apparently, 5m to final scrub decision.

I think they are compatible. All the 1.0 versions. I'm not 100% sure however.

No, we might.

I don't know. I just go pick him up at the end.

Hold on, we're talking about a half-hour hold. There's always a chance! EDIT: We have until 1:00 PM EST. 18 minutes.

Doesn't look like it. Four minutes from now, if the naut isn't here, we're going to scrub.

Must we use a helicopter? It's difficult to fly, it's difficult to hover, it's difficult to pick stuff out of the ocean with a helicopter (and we do want to bring back the capsule)... A boat would be better. What's it for, recovery? I'm in charge of that for this mission. And I can't pilot a helicopter. If you can build a boat that can go to, attach to/capture, and return the capsule and the 'naut, that'd be great. Thanks!

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Done! (UNNAMED YET): 21 Luna OTL masses, 4300 km radius This planet is barely outside the habitable zone, traveling practically on the inner edge. It has an average temperature of 120 degrees Celsius and air pressure of 4.5 atm at sea level. It has no moons. Its day lasts 20 hours. The equator of the planet is completely dry. Above 15 or so degrees north/south, the clear equatorial skies become overcast and windy, then turn into thunderstorms. At 25 degrees north/south, the rain can reach the ground. At 55 degrees north/south, the land slopes down to sea level and the rivers meet the planet's two oceans. At 60 degrees north/south, the thunderstorms stop (because the water in the seas is now cool enough not to boil) and the clouds thin somewhat, sometimes but not commonly letting sunlight reach the surface at any given point. Sunlight that shines down on scalding seas. This pattern continues until the poles, which have an average temperature of 91 degrees Celsius at sea level. The coldest point on the planet's surface is on a montane plateau (6.8 km above sea level, 67 degrees Celsius, 82 degrees south) on an island centred at 76 degrees south. The hottest point on the planet's surface is in a dead east-west tectonic rift near the equator. That is 3.6 kilometres below sea level, but it has no water due to being on average 151 degrees Celsius. The planet is geologically dead. There are no craters because of the thick atmosphere and water. The planet has microbial life in the oceans, becoming more advanced the further polewards one goes, up to sea plants and animals as advanced as arthropods or even small fish. The atmosphere consists of 56% nitrogen, 29% carbon dioxide, 8% water vapour, 4% oxygen, 3% other. It has a weak magnetic field, strong enough to keep the atmosphere from eroding but not strong enough to let multicellular life live on land. [0.5 G] PLANET (0.6°) {0.15 AU} --------------------------------------------- Okay. I think 0.5g is reasonable for a planet of 21 lunar masses and 4300 km radius. I don't know about the orbital radius because I can't find information for Nibiru's habitable zone. It's supposed to be just outside the inner edge of the habitable zone. I will just call it 0.15 AU until I can get a better number. Sorry this is a bit late, I have been doing some stuff and things, and had to deal with an ice storm IRL, so haven't had too much time to work on this. The other thing is, I still don't know what to call this thing. This planet. I want its name to reflect its environment. Any ideas for its name?

If you are referring to the two Alpha stars, seconded. If referring to Alpha and Proxima, however, the effect would be nearly zero. Proxima is like 0.2 LIGHTYEARS from Alpha. Planets around Proxima wouldn't be significantly affected by the *proximity* to Alpha, and vice versa.

So a very Earthlike world by geology and atmosphere, around Proxima, still might not have life. It would be interesting to see a habitable world without life. It could all be killed by radiation from Proxima, which is a flare star. I bet a habitable-zone planet there would look a lot like Laythe.

I gave my Skype on the PM thread.

Okay. Will get it done.

Okay. I am able to be Recovery for this mission. I have another computer that I have right now and will have by then, and I know what time (12:45 being ready for the mission, 1:30 the mission actually starts?). I do still need to know what must be done in preparation. Like, what mods do I need installed, do I need to add people on Skype, do I need to bring the capsule back as well as the crew when they get picked up from the sea, etc. Frankly, I think we can leave the capsule. It's probably useless after it's been used. It will have been in a vacuum, then underwent atmospheric reentry, then fall into saltwater. Regular water is bad for electronics and metal, but saltwater's worse because it corrodes stuff faster. Basically, there's not much purpose in hauling it back. Another thing is the VTOL. It was mentioned that the crew is to be picked up with a VTOL. What is it, like a helicopter or something? I'm not really good with VTOLs. Can I get, like, a seaplane, or something? That would be much easier, especially if we don't end up needing to recover the capsule, in which case I'll just need to land on the water near the capsule, the 'naut gets out and gets on the plane, we fly off to an aircraft carrier or something. Done. I've got basically all of tomorrow to prepare. So what do I need to do?

It was said that the next launch is on March 26, right? Exactly what, specifically for the 3/26 launch, does the role of Recovery need to do? I *may* be able to substitute for Recovery for this launch. I make no promises, I had to bring in my computer to the Apple Store today and I don't know when I will get it back (writing in phone), I don't have RSS or RO or any other mods (save for HyperEdit, but I digress), and I don't know whether it's going to be at 10 am Mountain time or 10 am Myanmar time. If everything is fine I suppose I can help, but it's unlikely. Please don't assume I am decided on this yet. All of that out of the way, I have three questions. One, can you tell me everything Recovery will need to have for this mission? Even the obvious stuff? Two, can you tell me everything Recovery will need to do before, during, and after the mission? Three, how long does Recovery have to actually be participating, and at what times? I must be sure. Thanks. P.S. By the way, how do I "mention" people (with their names in the blue rectangle with the @)? I have tried putting @(person name) in my posts and there must be something I have missed because it doesn't appear to work.

First I would only change it up a bit. I would clear all the water out of Eve's equatorial regions up to around 20 degrees north/south, I'd add some small lakes to Duna, give Laythe much larger ice sheets, give Eve atmospheric oxygen, and give Tylo water and air and land and ice while also shrinking it somewhat. I would also lower Laythe's sea level and move Kerbin's land around to get rid of the supercontinent (all major land masses are connected). I would probably swap Laythe's and Duna's orbits, and make Vall look like Eeloo with blue stripes instead of brown. Then I'd swap Tylo and Duna. The Jool system, going outwards, would be: Bop (orbiting very closely) Tylo Vall Duna Pol. I would move Ike to orbit Eve and move Gilly to orbit Laythe. Moho stays the same. Dres stays the same. That is what I'd do. Some of this stuff is doable in HyperEdit, but not the amount of oxygen in Eve's atmosphere or the Dunar lakes or Laythe's ice caps or Tylo's modifications or Eve's equatorial no-water and yada yada yada. XD Then I'd actually add stuff. Like a second gas giant with a Titan analogue and a Mimas analogue. Then wayyyy far out of the system (at least 300 AU) I'd add a red dwarf star with a Jool-sized planet orbiting right next to the star, and a binary rocky planet (larger a Venuslike world, smaller an Earthlike world) further out. Then an ice giant.

I support this.

Would they have seen our stuff?

The aliens wouldn't know we exist. How would they? As far as they know, we're not even a bunch of medieval people yet. As far as they can see, we're not landing on the Moon and sending radio signals into space. We're too busy domesticating silkworms, colonizing Scotland, battling King Arthur, inventing matches, changing the Eastern Roman Empire's official language, and sailing to Antarctica in canoes. And they can't see, because they have no reason to look in our direction. None of our signals have reached that star. It will be at least another 1300 years before they even know we exist.

What does this mean?

I would look but I am in the beginning of a large blizzard. So, nope. Seems every time an astronomy event happens I have bad weather. XD

Nuuuu! My theeeoryyyyyy! XD Although, exactly how was this object captured? The velocity needs to have been transferred to something else, a third object. There's nothing there. Can we use the starship impact theory instead? Reason being, there seem to be less scientific plotholes like the capture theory's third-object capture problem or the how-would-an-object-be-captured-in-the-outer-Orion-arm-on-a-trajectory-out-of-the-galactic-centre-and-not-be-moving-too-fast problem.

How would these elements have formed? This thing orbits Nibiru. Nibiru, being a red dwarf, probably hasn't died before (smaller stars last longer). It simply cannot have created any very heavy elements like this. But all is not lost! Here's my take on how this formed as it is: You mentioned Andos was most likely a leftover from a collision. That plus the radioactives leads me to the conclusion that millions of years ago, a starship carrying radioactive things hit proto-Andos at a measurable chunk of the speed of light and vaporized itself completely. The impact would have stripped proto-Andos of its crust and mantle, leaving only the iron core (another mystery solved). I assume it was differentiated. If not, doesn't matter. So we are left with a molten, smaller-than-before Andos with all this radioactive material mixed in with the magma. Eventually it would have frozen, with most of the radioactive material in the planet having sunk to the bottom of the liquid rock/metal. However, a lot of the radioactive material wasn't actually in the planet yet. After a collision that knocked off that much of the planet's mass, there's a ton of stuff floating in orbit. Molten rock, molten metal, radioactive material, etc. Now how would that stuff get to the surface? As a result of the collision, Andos' orbit has become very elliptical (0.9-6.7 AU, as stated in its definition). There's a lot of tidal influence from Nibiru. After a planetary crust forms, most of the orbiting debris is still gradually deorbiting from tidal disruption. It impacts at around orbital speed, and distributes itself around the surface as impact ejecta. There you go. By that theory, you can have as much radioactive material as you want, as long as it would have had a use in a giant alien starship.

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