tech2000

hi @cfloutier nice mod!! is there any chance you could implement a trajectory (visual flight path) button into your mod, the likes of this ol mod from ksp1. Trajectories

would like an update to this simple but useful mod plz

not sure... installed only working mods for 1.1.3 and removed SVE and Stock Real Plume

resolved.

is Precise Node working for anyone in 1.1.3 ?

hi all. so the game seems to work well except when i "revert to launch" i get a nice view of space as if the planetary system has disappeared. these are my current mods... 000_Toolbar, EVE, RcsSounds, Scatterer, StageRecovery, SVE and Wheelsounds have not officially been updated to 113. and this is a copy and paste of my log, it might as well be chinese to me, so i copied as much as i think would help. let me know if you need moar. [LOG 12:41:57.818] [Pre-Flight Check]: Checking for CraftWithinPartCountLimit: PASS! [LOG 12:41:57.818] [Pre-Flight Check]: Checking for CraftWithinSizeLimits: PASS! [LOG 12:41:57.818] [Pre-Flight Check]: Checking for CraftWithinMassLimits: PASS! [LOG 12:41:57.818] [Pre-Flight Check]: Checking for ExperimentalPartsAvailable: PASS! [LOG 12:41:57.818] [Pre-Flight Check]: Checking for CanAffordLaunchTest: PASS! [LOG 12:41:57.819] [Pre-Flight Check]: Checking for FacilityOperational: PASS! [LOG 12:41:57.819] [Pre-Flight Check]: Checking for NoControlSources: PASS! [LOG 12:41:57.819] [Pre-Flight Check]: Checking for LaunchSiteClear: PASS! [LOG 12:41:57.819] [Pre-Flight Check]: All Checks Complete. Go for Launch! [LOG 12:41:57.824] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:41:57.868] Launching vessel from LaunchPad. Craft file: /Applications/KSP_osx_113/KSP.app/Contents/../../saves/Loaded/Ships/VAB/Auto-Saved Ship.craft [LOG 12:41:57.888] [MessageSystem] Save Messages [LOG 12:41:58.489] Game State Saved to saves/Loaded/persistent [LOG 12:41:58.501] 6/24/2016 12:41:58 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,AppLauncher: Destroying Button-Button Count:10 [LOG 12:41:58.502] ScaleModList: listSize 246 maxListSize 1339 [LOG 12:41:58.503] ScaleModList: listSize 246 maxListSize 1339 [LOG 12:41:58.503] ScaleModList: listSize 246 maxListSize 1339 [LOG 12:41:58.504] ScaleModList: listSize 246 maxListSize 1339 [LOG 12:41:58.506] UIMasterController: HideUI [WRN 12:41:58.720] [HighLogic]: =========================== Scene Change : From EDITOR to FLIGHT (Async) ===================== [LOG 12:41:58.723] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:41:59.014] 6/24/2016 12:41:59 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Destroying the KerbalAlarmClock-KACEditor [LOG 12:41:59.014] 6/24/2016 12:41:59 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,API Cleaned up [LOG 12:41:59.055] ScaleModList: listSize 246 maxListSize 1339 [LOG 12:41:59.055] [Toolbar] [INFO] button destroyed: MechJeb2.Ascent_Guidance [LOG 12:41:59.055] [Toolbar] [INFO] button destroyed: MechJeb2.Attitude_Adjustment [LOG 12:41:59.055] [Toolbar] [INFO] button destroyed: MechJeb2.Custom_Window_Editor [LOG 12:41:59.055] [Toolbar] [INFO] button destroyed: MechJeb2.Docking_Autopilot [LOG 12:41:59.055] [Toolbar] [INFO] button destroyed: MechJeb2.Flight_Recorder [LOG 12:41:59.055] [Toolbar] [INFO] button destroyed: MechJeb2.Landing_Guidance [LOG 12:41:59.055] [Toolbar] [INFO] button destroyed: MechJeb2.Maneuver_Node_Editor [LOG 12:41:59.055] [Toolbar] [INFO] button destroyed: MechJeb2.Maneuver_Planner [LOG 12:41:59.055] [Toolbar] [INFO] button destroyed: MechJeb2.RCS_Balancer [LOG 12:41:59.055] [Toolbar] [INFO] button destroyed: MechJeb2.Rendezvous_Autopilot [LOG 12:41:59.055] [Toolbar] [INFO] button destroyed: MechJeb2.Rendezvous_Planner [LOG 12:41:59.055] [Toolbar] [INFO] button destroyed: MechJeb2.Rover_Autopilot [LOG 12:41:59.055] [Toolbar] [INFO] button destroyed: MechJeb2.Settings [LOG 12:41:59.055] [Toolbar] [INFO] button destroyed: MechJeb2.Smart_A_S_S_ [LOG 12:41:59.055] [Toolbar] [INFO] button destroyed: MechJeb2.SmartRcs [LOG 12:41:59.055] [Toolbar] [INFO] button destroyed: MechJeb2.Spaceplane_Guidance [LOG 12:41:59.055] [Toolbar] [INFO] button destroyed: MechJeb2.Translatron [LOG 12:41:59.055] [Toolbar] [INFO] button destroyed: MechJeb2.Utilities [LOG 12:41:59.055] [Toolbar] [INFO] button destroyed: MechJeb2.Warp_Helper [LOG 12:41:59.055] [Toolbar] [INFO] button destroyed: MechJeb2.Atmo [LOG 12:41:59.055] [Toolbar] [INFO] button destroyed: MechJeb2.Delta-V_Stats [LOG 12:41:59.055] [Toolbar] [INFO] button destroyed: MechJeb2.Orbit_Info [LOG 12:41:59.055] [Toolbar] [INFO] button destroyed: MechJeb2.Surface_Info [LOG 12:41:59.055] [Toolbar] [INFO] button destroyed: MechJeb2.Vessel_Info [LOG 12:41:59.055] [Toolbar] [INFO] button destroyed: MechJeb2.MechJeb2MenuButton [LOG 12:41:59.061] [UIApp] OnDestroy: ContractsApp [LOG 12:41:59.061] ScaleModList: listSize 246 maxListSize 1339 [LOG 12:41:59.062] [UIApp] OnDestroy: EngineersReport [LOG 12:41:59.062] ScaleModList: listSize 246 maxListSize 1339 [LOG 12:41:59.063] [UIApp] OnDestroy: KSPedia [LOG 12:41:59.064] ScaleModList: listSize 246 maxListSize 1339 [LOG 12:41:59.067] ScaleModList: listSize 246 maxListSize 1339 [LOG 12:41:59.067] [Toolbar] [INFO] button destroyed: StageRecovery.MainButton [LOG 12:41:59.752] UIMasterController: HideUI [LOG 12:41:59.768] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon 'GlobalEVEManager' from assembly 'EVEManager' [LOG 12:41:59.772] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon 'StageRecovery' from assembly 'StageRecovery' [LOG 12:41:59.772] [Toolbar] [INFO] adding button: StageRecovery.MainButton [LOG 12:42:01.260] [Toolbar] [INFO] loading settings (game scene: FLIGHT) [LOG 12:42:01.260] [Toolbar] [INFO] loading toolbar settings (toolbar 'toolbar_1980646202') [LOG 12:42:01.261] KerbalEngineer -> BuildAdvanced->OnDestroy [LOG 12:42:01.261] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:01.264] [Toolbar] [INFO] button visibilities have changed [LOG 12:42:01.264] [Toolbar] [INFO] button visibilities have changed, forcing auto-size [LOG 12:42:01.264] [Toolbar] [INFO] saving settings (game scene: FLIGHT) [LOG 12:42:01.264] [Toolbar] [INFO] saving toolbar settings (toolbar 'toolbar_1980646202') [LOG 12:42:01.276] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:01.871] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:03.211] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:03.224] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:03.241] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:03.257] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:03.274] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:03.291] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [WRN 12:42:03.303] The referenced script on this Behaviour is missing! [LOG 12:42:03.307] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [WRN 12:42:03.316] The referenced script on this Behaviour is missing! [WRN 12:42:03.317] The referenced script on this Behaviour is missing! [WRN 12:42:03.318] The referenced script on this Behaviour is missing! [LOG 12:42:03.343] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:03.517] [Toolbar] [INFO] button destroyed: StageRecovery.MainButton [LOG 12:42:03.539] UICanvasPrefabSpawner FlightUI spawning Flight [WRN 12:42:03.561] [UiApp] Awake: ResourceDisplay [LOG 12:42:04.127] UIMasterController: HideUI [LOG 12:42:04.128] [PlanetariumCamera]: Focus: Kerbin [LOG 12:42:04.133] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon 'AeroGUI' from assembly 'KSP' [LOG 12:42:04.135] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon 'GlobalEVEManager' from assembly 'EVEManager' [LOG 12:42:04.136] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon 'FlightAppLauncher' from assembly 'KerbalEngineer' [LOG 12:42:04.137] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon 'DisplayStack' from assembly 'KerbalEngineer' [LOG 12:42:04.137] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon 'FlightEngineerCore' from assembly 'KerbalEngineer' [LOG 12:42:04.138] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon 'SCANmechStarter' from assembly 'SCANmechjeb' [LOG 12:42:04.138] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon 'StageRecovery' from assembly 'StageRecovery' [LOG 12:42:04.138] [Toolbar] [INFO] adding button: StageRecovery.MainButton [LOG 12:42:04.141] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon 'KACFlight' from assembly 'KerbalAlarmClock' [LOG 12:42:04.141] 6/24/2016 12:42:04 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Awakening the KerbalAlarmClock-KACFlight [LOG 12:42:04.141] 6/24/2016 12:42:04 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Loading Settings [LOG 12:42:04.153] 6/24/2016 12:42:04 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Loading Transfer Modelling Data [LOG 12:42:04.194] 6/24/2016 12:42:04 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Transfer Modelling Data Load Complete [LOG 12:42:04.194] 6/24/2016 12:42:04 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Loading Sounds [LOG 12:42:04.195] 6/24/2016 12:42:04 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,WarpRates:8 [LOG 12:42:04.196] 6/24/2016 12:42:04 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,API Ready [LOG 12:42:04.196] SCANsat.SCANsat.SCAN_Platform.CustomAddonLoader: FLIGHT was loaded; instantiating addons... [LOG 12:42:04.196] ImprovedAddonLoader: Creating addon 'SCANtoolbar' [LOG 12:42:04.196] [Toolbar] [INFO] adding button: SCANsat.UIMenu [LOG 12:42:04.197] [Toolbar] [INFO] adding button: SCANsat.BigMap [LOG 12:42:04.197] [Toolbar] [INFO] adding button: SCANsat.SmallMap [LOG 12:42:04.197] [Toolbar] [INFO] adding button: SCANsat.Overlay [LOG 12:42:04.197] [Toolbar] [INFO] adding button: SCANsat.ZoomMap [LOG 12:42:04.197] SCANsat.SCANsat.SCAN_Platform.CustomAddonLoader finished; created 1 addons [LOG 12:42:04.198] CapCom.CapCom.Framework.CustomAddonLoader: FLIGHT was loaded; instantiating addons... [LOG 12:42:04.198] ImprovedAddonLoader: Creating addon 'CapCom' [LOG 12:42:04.198] CapCom.CapCom.Framework.CustomAddonLoader finished; created 1 addons [LOG 12:42:04.230] ------------------- initializing flight mode... ------------------ [LOG 12:42:05.164] [MessageSystem] Save Messages [LOG 12:42:05.199] Loading ship from file: /Applications/KSP_osx_113/KSP.app/Contents/../../saves/Loaded/Ships/VAB/Auto-Saved Ship.craft [LOG 12:42:05.702] [MechJeb2] Loading Mechjeb 2.5.8 [ERR 12:42:05.748] MechJeb module MechJebModuleWaypointWindow threw an exception in OnLoad: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object at MuMech.MechJebWaypoint.get_Body () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 at MuMech.MechJebWaypoint.Update () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 at MuMech.MechJebWaypoint..ctor (.ConfigNode Node) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 at MuMech.MechJebWaypointRoute..ctor (.ConfigNode Node) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 at MuMech.MechJebModuleWaypointWindow.OnLoad (.ConfigNode local, .ConfigNode type, .ConfigNode global) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 at MuMech.MechJebCore.OnLoad (.ConfigNode sfsNode) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 [LOG 12:42:05.844] [MechJeb2] Loading Mechjeb 2.5.8 [ERR 12:42:05.885] MechJeb module MechJebModuleWaypointWindow threw an exception in OnLoad: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object at MuMech.MechJebWaypoint.get_Body () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 at MuMech.MechJebWaypoint.Update () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 at MuMech.MechJebWaypoint..ctor (.ConfigNode Node) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 at MuMech.MechJebWaypointRoute..ctor (.ConfigNode Node) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 at MuMech.MechJebModuleWaypointWindow.OnLoad (.ConfigNode local, .ConfigNode type, .ConfigNode global) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 at MuMech.MechJebCore.OnLoad (.ConfigNode sfsNode) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 [LOG 12:42:07.011] [MechJeb2] Loading Mechjeb 2.5.8 [ERR 12:42:07.052] MechJeb module MechJebModuleWaypointWindow threw an exception in OnLoad: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object at MuMech.MechJebWaypoint.get_Body () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 at MuMech.MechJebWaypoint.Update () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 at MuMech.MechJebWaypoint..ctor (.ConfigNode Node) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 at MuMech.MechJebWaypointRoute..ctor (.ConfigNode Node) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 at MuMech.MechJebModuleWaypointWindow.OnLoad (.ConfigNode local, .ConfigNode type, .ConfigNode global) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 at MuMech.MechJebCore.OnLoad (.ConfigNode sfsNode) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 [LOG 12:42:07.518] Duna Ore Recovery Vehicle 1 loaded! [LOG 12:42:07.677] Putting to ground, manually-defined ground offset: 1 [LOG 12:42:07.678] Putting to ground, manually-defined ground offset: 1 [LOG 12:42:07.678] Putting to ground, manually-defined ground offset: 1 [LOG 12:42:07.679] Putting to ground, manually-defined ground offset: 1 [LOG 12:42:07.680] Putting to ground, manually-defined ground offset: 1 [LOG 12:42:07.680] Putting to ground, manually-defined ground offset: 1 [LOG 12:42:07.681] putting ship to ground: 0 [LOG 12:42:07.691] [Duna Ore Recovery Vehicle 1]: Ready to Launch - waiting to start physics... [LOG 12:42:07.760] [FLIGHT GLOBALS]: Switching To Vessel Duna Ore Recovery Vehicle 1 ---------------------- [LOG 12:42:07.760] setting new dominant body: Kerbin FlightGlobals.mainBody: Kerbin [LOG 12:42:07.760] Reference Frame: Rotating [LOG 12:42:07.793] Vessel assembly complete! [LOG 12:42:07.793] all systems started [LOG 12:42:07.803] [SCANsatMechJeb] Starting SCANsat - MechJeb Interface... [LOG 12:42:07.926] 6/24/2016 12:42:07 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Searching for KER [LOG 12:42:07.926] 6/24/2016 12:42:07 PM,KerbalAlarmClock-KERWrapper,Attempting to Grab KER Types... [LOG 12:42:07.928] 6/24/2016 12:42:07 PM,KerbalAlarmClock-KERWrapper,KER Version:1.1.1.0 [LOG 12:42:07.928] 6/24/2016 12:42:07 PM,KerbalAlarmClock-KERWrapper,Creating Wrapper Objects [LOG 12:42:07.928] 6/24/2016 12:42:07 PM,KerbalAlarmClock-KERWrapper,p not NULL [LOG 12:42:07.928] 6/24/2016 12:42:07 PM,KerbalAlarmClock-KERWrapper,BurnTimeProp Success: True [LOG 12:42:07.928] 6/24/2016 12:42:07 PM,KerbalAlarmClock-KERWrapper,HalfBurnTimeProp Success: True [LOG 12:42:07.928] 6/24/2016 12:42:07 PM,KerbalAlarmClock-KERWrapper,HasDeltaVProp Success: True [LOG 12:42:07.928] 6/24/2016 12:42:07 PM,KerbalAlarmClock-KERWrapper,UpdateMethod Success: True [LOG 12:42:07.928] 6/24/2016 12:42:07 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Successfully Hooked KER [LOG 12:42:07.928] 6/24/2016 12:42:07 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Searching for VOID [LOG 12:42:07.928] 6/24/2016 12:42:07 PM,KerbalAlarmClock-VOIDWrapper,Attempting to Grab VOID Types... [LOG 12:42:07.930] 6/24/2016 12:42:07 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Initializing Phase Angle Render [LOG 12:42:07.965] 6/24/2016 12:42:07 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Initializing EjectAngle Render [LOG 12:42:08.001] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:08.001] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [WRN 12:42:08.011] [FlagDecal Warning!]: Flag quad object is given as FlagTransform, but has no renderer attached [LOG 12:42:08.954] DragCubeSystem: Rendering procedural drag for fairingSize3 [LOG 12:42:09.042] [MechJeb2] Loading Mechjeb 2.5.8 [LOG 12:42:09.167] Found 2 overheatable modules [LOG 12:42:09.201] Found 2 overheatable modules [LOG 12:42:09.237] Found 2 overheatable modules [LOG 12:42:09.318] [FlightIntegrator]: Reloaded drag cube for zeroed cube root part HECS2.ProbeCore on vessel Duna Ore Recovery Vehicle 1 [LOG 12:42:09.446] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:09.447] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:09.735] 6/24/2016 12:42:09 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Active Vessel unreadable - resetting inqueue flag [WRN 12:42:09.744] HighlightingSystem : Multiple Highlighter components on a single GameObject is not allowed! Highlighter has been disabled on a GameObject with name 'model'. [LOG 12:42:09.748] [VAB]: landed - waiting for ground contact to resume physics... [LOG 12:42:09.778] [FlightIntegrator]: Reloaded drag cube for zeroed cube root part flag (VAB) on vessel VAB [ERR 12:42:09.778] [FlightIntegrator]: Root part's drag cube is still zeroed! [LOG 12:42:09.809] KerbalEngineer -> ActionMenu->Awake [LOG 12:42:09.809] KerbalEngineer -> FlightEngineerCore->Awake [LOG 12:42:09.809] KerbalEngineer -> ActionMenu->Start [LOG 12:42:09.809] KerbalEngineer -> FlightEngineerCore->Start [LOG 12:42:09.811] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:09.854] 6/24/2016 12:42:09 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Loading Textures [LOG 12:42:09.886] 6/24/2016 12:42:09 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Loaded Textures [LOG 12:42:11.421] [Progress Tracking Parser] Initializing Progress Parser... [WRN 12:42:11.421] [UiApp] Awake: CurrencyWidgetsApp [WRN 12:42:11.421] [UiApp] Awake: ContractsApp [WRN 12:42:11.421] [UiApp] Awake: ResourceDisplay [WRN 12:42:11.421] [UiApp] Awake: KSPedia [LOG 12:42:11.421] [ApplicationLauncher] OnSceneLoadedGUIReady: scene FLIGHT ShouldBeVisible() True ShouldBeOnTop() True iIsPositionedAtTop False [LOG 12:42:11.421] [ApplicationLauncher] SpawnSimpleLayout: VerticalTopDown [LOG 12:42:11.439] ScaleModList: listSize 41 maxListSize 891 [LOG 12:42:11.451] ScaleModList: listSize 82 maxListSize 882 [WRN 12:42:11.451] [KnowledgeBase] OnAppLauncherReady 25235 [LOG 12:42:11.462] Loading Depletion Nodes [LOG 12:42:11.462] DepNodeCount: 0 [LOG 12:42:11.462] Loading Biome Nodes [LOG 12:42:11.462] BiomeNodeCount: 1 [LOG 12:42:11.462] Loading Planet Nodes [LOG 12:42:11.462] PlanetNodeCount: 3 [LOG 12:42:11.471] [ScenarioDestructibles]: Loading... 0 objects registered [LOG 12:42:11.473] [ScenarioUpgradeableFacilities]: Loading... 0 objects registered [LOG 12:42:11.474] 6/24/2016 12:42:11 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,BaseLoadDone. Alarms Count (Should be 0):0 [LOG 12:42:11.480] 6/24/2016 12:42:11 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Found 2 Maneuver Nodes to deserialize [LOG 12:42:11.480] 6/24/2016 12:42:11 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Found 2 Maneuver Nodes to deserialize [LOG 12:42:11.480] 6/24/2016 12:42:11 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Found 1 Maneuver Nodes to deserialize [LOG 12:42:11.480] 6/24/2016 12:42:11 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Found 1 Maneuver Nodes to deserialize [LOG 12:42:11.480] 6/24/2016 12:42:11 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Found 1 Maneuver Nodes to deserialize [LOG 12:42:11.481] 6/24/2016 12:42:11 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Found 1 Maneuver Nodes to deserialize [LOG 12:42:11.481] 6/24/2016 12:42:11 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Found 1 Maneuver Nodes to deserialize [LOG 12:42:11.481] 6/24/2016 12:42:11 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Found 1 Maneuver Nodes to deserialize [LOG 12:42:11.481] 6/24/2016 12:42:11 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Found 1 Maneuver Nodes to deserialize [LOG 12:42:11.481] 6/24/2016 12:42:11 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,ScenarioLoadDone. Alarms Count:9 [LOG 12:42:11.485] [SCANsat] SCANsat Controller: Loading 3 known vessels [LOG 12:42:11.485] [SCANsat] SCANsat Controller: Loading map for Kerbin [LOG 12:42:11.487] [SCANsat] SCANsat Controller: Loading map for Mun [LOG 12:42:11.490] [SCANsat] SCANsat Controller: Loading map for Minmus [LOG 12:42:11.493] [SCANsat] SCANsat Controller: Loading map for Sun [LOG 12:42:11.495] [SCANsat] SCANsat Controller: Loading map for Duna [LOG 12:42:11.498] [SCANsat] SCANsat Controller: Loading map for Eve [ERR 12:42:11.502] Cannot find a Module of typename 'PCScenario' [ERR 12:42:11.502] ScenarioModule is null. [LOG 12:42:11.546] ScaleModList: listSize 123 maxListSize 882 [LOG 12:42:11.548] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:11.556] 6/24/2016 12:42:11 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Adding DrawGUI to PostRender Queue [LOG 12:42:11.556] 6/24/2016 12:42:11 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Skipping version check [LOG 12:42:11.558] ScaleModList: listSize 164 maxListSize 882 [LOG 12:42:11.570] ScaleModList: listSize 205 maxListSize 882 [LOG 12:42:11.573] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:11.573] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:11.580] [FlightIntegrator]: Vessel Duna Ore Recovery Vehicle 1 has been unloaded 1.79769313486232E+308, applying analytic temperature 276.019670384525 [LOG 12:42:11.580] [FlightIntegrator]: Vessel VAB has been unloaded 6592.64419462904, applying analytic temperature 270.963120674466 [LOG 12:42:11.738] ScaleModList: listSize 246 maxListSize 882 [LOG 12:42:11.738] [Toolbar] [INFO] adding button: MechJeb2.MechJeb2MenuButton [LOG 12:42:11.738] Create button for module Ascent Guidance [LOG 12:42:11.738] [Toolbar] [INFO] adding button: MechJeb2.Ascent_Guidance [LOG 12:42:11.738] Create button for module Attitude Adjustment [LOG 12:42:11.738] [Toolbar] [INFO] adding button: MechJeb2.Attitude_Adjustment [LOG 12:42:11.738] Create button for module Custom Window Editor [LOG 12:42:11.738] [Toolbar] [INFO] adding button: MechJeb2.Custom_Window_Editor [LOG 12:42:11.738] Create button for module Docking Autopilot [LOG 12:42:11.738] [Toolbar] [INFO] adding button: MechJeb2.Docking_Autopilot [LOG 12:42:11.739] Create button for module Flight Recorder [LOG 12:42:11.739] [Toolbar] [INFO] adding button: MechJeb2.Flight_Recorder [LOG 12:42:11.739] [MechJeb2] No icon for Flight_Recorder [LOG 12:42:11.739] Create button for module Landing Guidance [LOG 12:42:11.739] [Toolbar] [INFO] adding button: MechJeb2.Landing_Guidance [LOG 12:42:11.739] Create button for module Maneuver Node Editor [LOG 12:42:11.739] [Toolbar] [INFO] adding button: MechJeb2.Maneuver_Node_Editor [LOG 12:42:11.739] Create button for module Maneuver Planner [LOG 12:42:11.739] [Toolbar] [INFO] adding button: MechJeb2.Maneuver_Planner [LOG 12:42:11.739] Create button for module RCS Balancer [LOG 12:42:11.739] [Toolbar] [INFO] adding button: MechJeb2.RCS_Balancer [LOG 12:42:11.740] Create button for module Rendezvous Autopilot [LOG 12:42:11.740] [Toolbar] [INFO] adding button: MechJeb2.Rendezvous_Autopilot [LOG 12:42:11.740] Create button for module Rendezvous Planner [LOG 12:42:11.740] [Toolbar] [INFO] adding button: MechJeb2.Rendezvous_Planner [LOG 12:42:11.740] Create button for module Rover Autopilot [LOG 12:42:11.740] [Toolbar] [INFO] adding button: MechJeb2.Rover_Autopilot [LOG 12:42:11.740] Create button for module Settings [LOG 12:42:11.740] [Toolbar] [INFO] adding button: MechJeb2.Settings [LOG 12:42:11.740] Create button for module Smart A.S.S. [LOG 12:42:11.740] [Toolbar] [INFO] adding button: MechJeb2.Smart_A_S_S_ [LOG 12:42:11.741] Create button for module SmartRcs [LOG 12:42:11.741] [Toolbar] [INFO] adding button: MechJeb2.SmartRcs [LOG 12:42:11.741] [MechJeb2] No icon for SmartRcs [LOG 12:42:11.741] Create button for module Spaceplane Guidance [LOG 12:42:11.741] [Toolbar] [INFO] adding button: MechJeb2.Spaceplane_Guidance [LOG 12:42:11.741] Create button for module Translatron [LOG 12:42:11.741] [Toolbar] [INFO] adding button: MechJeb2.Translatron [LOG 12:42:11.741] Create button for module Utilities [LOG 12:42:11.741] [Toolbar] [INFO] adding button: MechJeb2.Utilities [LOG 12:42:11.741] Create button for module Warp Helper [LOG 12:42:11.741] [Toolbar] [INFO] adding button: MechJeb2.Warp_Helper [LOG 12:42:11.742] Create button for module Atmo [LOG 12:42:11.742] [Toolbar] [INFO] adding button: MechJeb2.Atmo [LOG 12:42:11.742] [MechJeb2] No icon for Atmo [LOG 12:42:11.742] Create button for module Delta-V Stats [LOG 12:42:11.742] [Toolbar] [INFO] adding button: MechJeb2.Delta-V_Stats [LOG 12:42:11.742] Create button for module Orbit Info [LOG 12:42:11.742] [Toolbar] [INFO] adding button: MechJeb2.Orbit_Info [LOG 12:42:11.742] Create button for module Surface Info [LOG 12:42:11.742] [Toolbar] [INFO] adding button: MechJeb2.Surface_Info [LOG 12:42:11.742] Create button for module Vessel Info [LOG 12:42:11.743] [Toolbar] [INFO] adding button: MechJeb2.Vessel_Info [LOG 12:42:11.752] [SCANsat] All Height Maps Generated [LOG 12:42:11.752] [MessageSystem] Reposition 0.02 25236 [LOG 12:42:11.772] 6/24/2016 12:42:11 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Contracts System Ready [LOG 12:42:11.776] CloudsManager: CloudsPQS: (Kerbin-CirrusClouds) OnSphereActive [LOG 12:42:11.776] CloudsManager: Clouds2D is now MACRO [LOG 12:42:11.929] CloudsManager: CloudsPQS: (Kerbin-MainCloudsVolume) OnSphereActive [LOG 12:42:12.090] CloudsManager: CloudsPQS: (Kerbin-MainClouds) OnSphereActive [LOG 12:42:12.090] CloudsManager: Clouds2D is now MACRO [LOG 12:42:12.091] CloudsManager: CloudsPQS: (Kerbin-Aurora) OnSphereActive [LOG 12:42:12.091] CloudsManager: Clouds2D is now MACRO [LOG 12:42:13.219] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:13.253] [Toolbar] [INFO] button visibilities have changed [LOG 12:42:13.253] [Toolbar] [INFO] button visibilities have changed, forcing auto-size [LOG 12:42:13.253] [Toolbar] [INFO] saving settings (game scene: FLIGHT) [LOG 12:42:13.253] [Toolbar] [INFO] saving toolbar settings (toolbar 'toolbar_1980646202') [LOG 12:42:13.257] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:13.257] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:13.265] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:13.265] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:13.453] 6/24/2016 12:42:13 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Vessel Change from 'No Vessel' to 'Duna Ore Recovery Vehicle 1' [LOG 12:42:13.455] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:13.540] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:13.540] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:13.547] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:13.547] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:13.572] [PlanetariumCamera]: Focus: Duna Ore Recovery Vehicle 1 [LOG 12:42:13.579] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:13.657] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:13.657] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:13.668] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:13.668] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:13.693] [UIApp] Adding ResourceDisplay to Application Launcher [LOG 12:42:13.694] ScaleModList: listSize 246 maxListSize 841 [LOG 12:42:13.694] [UIApp] Adding ResourceDisplay to Application Launcher [LOG 12:42:13.695] ScaleModList: listSize 246 maxListSize 800 [LOG 12:42:13.698] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:13.774] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:13.774] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:13.780] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:13.781] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [WRN 12:42:13.803] [ResourceDisplay] OnAppStarted(): id: -1357160 [LOG 12:42:13.804] [GenericAppFrame] Reposition 0.18 25240 [LOG 12:42:13.804] [UIApp] Adding ContractsApp to Application Launcher [LOG 12:42:13.805] ScaleModList: listSize 246 maxListSize 759 [WRN 12:42:13.805] [ResourceDisplay] OnAppStarted(): id: 175340 [LOG 12:42:13.805] ResourceDisplay already exist, destroying this instance [LOG 12:42:13.805] [UIApp] OnDestroy: ResourceDisplay [LOG 12:42:13.805] ScaleModList: listSize 246 maxListSize 759 [LOG 12:42:13.808] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:13.874] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:13.874] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:13.881] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:13.881] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:13.913] [GenericAppFrame] Reposition 0.22 25241 [LOG 12:42:13.950] CURRENCY WIDGET True True True [LOG 12:42:13.950] [UIApp] Adding CurrencyWidgetsApp to Application Launcher [LOG 12:42:13.952] ScaleModList: listSize 246 maxListSize 759 [LOG 12:42:13.953] [Contract Parser] Loading All Contracts... [LOG 12:42:14.017] [Contract Parser] Finished Loading All Contracts [LOG 12:42:14.020] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:14.057] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:14.057] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:14.063] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:14.063] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:14.087] [UIApp] Adding KSPedia to Application Launcher [LOG 12:42:14.088] ScaleModList: listSize 246 maxListSize 718 [LOG 12:42:14.092] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:14.157] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:14.157] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:14.163] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:14.163] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:14.188] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:14.257] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:14.257] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:14.263] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:14.263] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:14.291] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:14.357] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:14.357] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:14.364] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:14.364] Look rotation viewing vector is zero [LOG 12:42:14.395] [Progress Tracking Parser] Progress Nodes Loaded... 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thanks, will look into it. thanks for the replies!

well, i used my latest stock craft and then the craft KERBALX to test out 1.1.3. with the above mentioned mods.. and then without.... and still the orbit apo and peri danced around until it was on an impact trajectory on the mun... what landing leg bug ?? that craft uses the XL gear. this is so frustrating....

is the apo and peri supposed to dance like this in 1.1.3 ? http://i.imgur.com/vaQgT7a.gif some supporting info... i copied and pasted in a sandbox save file from 1.1.2. this is the mods i have installed that appear to play nice:

so, ultimately, in my search and in coming across this article from annoyed and uniformed OSX users.... i found the answer to my KSP full screen problem. enabling "spaces" for the second display, allows any and all apps to fun in full screen and not take over the secondary (additional) displays.... so in short. this KSP full screen problem is fixed for me because im running OSX... not sure if Win users can have the same experience though... again thanks for the replies @sal_vager pointing me in the right direction led me to find the correct answers, even though i did not like the truth... im am dealing with it.

thanks again... very nervous about jumping into terminal and start entering commands such as this....

@sal_vager this seems to be way above my paygrade... but in my search, i came across this article, as i just completed an OS "upgrade" from 10.7 to 10.11 and experienced the same issue when using Safari browser to watch a youtube video in full screen on one display... it blanked out my main display ... turns out even Apple OSX native software has (had) a similar issue with full screen taking over all displays.... it was very informative up to page 17 of the topic, then it started to get a little ugly... im at a loss for words....https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3196329?start=0&tstart=0

thanks for the reply. how do i determine <yourscreen> from terminal ?

hello. im playing 1.12 on a Mac OSX 10.11.5 and was wondering if there is a way i can get the game to display in full screen on the main display without showing a blank grey game screen screen (its like the menu color without any selectable items) on the second display connected via the Thunderbolt port. thanks!!

and i just spent the last hour reading your Missions of a Rescue thread... and im only like a quarter way through... you sir, are awesome! nicely done craft and missions!!!

i am really amazed at the work being done to the game. when youre a noob, its easy to see things that dont work, and hard to appreciate all the work that was done to get it to where it is now... i suppose for me, my appreciation for the game, made me take a look back at was was done, and again, im like wow... they did a lot !!! thanks starhawk!

wanted to say hello to Squad and the rest of the community and extend my gratitude for such an amazing gaming experience. i must admit, when i first started playing in 1.0.4. i was quite upset with the little things that didnt work... i hope i didnt make a complete ass of myself with the brash comments... (which i edited... cuz im just a grouch sometimes... well most of the time...working on it, bear with me plz...) but i have come to realize and see all the things that do work in the game, and all the updates and hard work that the team is doing to make this "game" sustainable and fun! again, thank you, and look forward and upward to seeing more! heres to looking up !! my latest thing.

thanks for the replies all! and yes, KSP is my new favorite game.

shame to have this kind of problem. will it ever be addressed? - - - Updated - - - also to note, it saves the Pitch axis. but all others are gone.

how do i set up the axis without the joystick inputs ?

yep, had the Logitech Extreme 3D pro all set up... then all of sudden, it wasnt. also to note, i have removed VOID and Toolbar and added Kerbal Engineer.

gotcha. thanks. so less rockets, more fuel?

thanks Frank! will try lowering texture, thanks for the tip. Unity 5? when? sweet! but yea, KSP usually uses about 2.78 GB of my RAM, not really much imo considering the quality of the game, both fps and visual. thanks for the compliments on the crafts. im a noob, i feel like my ships weigh too much, or my engines arent powerful enough. lol, oh rocket science. check out my Falcon 9

these are my mods. some help would be cool fellas!