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Youve been here long enough to now the titles of the threads often have little to do with their content...

Thats exactly what Musk said in the documentary: people dismiss rouge AI because they see it in movies too often.

If Elon Musk is right about AI controlled killbot swarms, I might want to move to Mars. Eventually they'll be a drone swarms arm race, or predictive AI that lets people be controlled, so people might want to go to space to avoid it. Sounds farfetched, but actually: http://stargate.inf.elte.hu/~seci/fun/Kurzweil, Ray - Singularity Is Near, The (hardback ed) [v1.3].pdf

A device that lacks the multiuse of a pc and the portability of an iphone.

I once did a 7 year necropost.

Every dollar spent returns 7 to the economy.

Are you arguing against manned exploration in general, or doing you the moon or venus atmosphere would be better, or o'neill cylinders.

Looks like its unmanned.

Even more people would be employed if it did stuff.

It launched several times, and met the deadline, and did what it needed to do. The SLS has no clear goals, and has taken longer to develop.

Over several years.

1k!

I agree, and I know that. I'm just saying that the overall budget does not need to be increased, just redistributed.

20 billion a year is more than enough.

That is a good thing. (I don't know either, but its some shooting game that can be played on both a computer and a phone, so it makes a lot of money)

All spoilers must be in spoilers.

Those did not make sense either. This is a recording of the Mars Society debate... I agree completely. Protecting ourselves from Mars contamination, though, does not make sense, because we are contaminated by mars every few centuries. That does not refute any of his points though.

1. Build a swarm of drones 2. The zombies are defeated

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5442430/ The whole idea of needed quarantine for Martian life has no scientific basis.

Whenever NASA announces a launch date for the SLS

Lobbying by subcontractors... why do one mission when you can do four? 1. Mars 2020 rover collects rocks 2. MAV collects the rocks from the rover 3. Ion drive satellite collects sample from Mars orbit 4. Manned(!) mission to earth moon l4 to collect sample from satellite. Also, a 2 billion dollar quarantine facility for this one sample. Note that a mission the size of the curiosity, without ISRU, could deploy a pathfinder sized rover, and have enough mass budget left for a rocket to send said sample all the way back to earth.