So ya know, The dang DEMV is hard to get to duna. After 4 Failed attempts, I finally got it! (weird spacejunk by it is skycrane part) On the launchpad: View of stage 2 Main enjector engine: .craft: [ATTACH]34541[/ATTACH] Stage description: First stage: Break through atmosphere Second stage: Get close to orbital velocity Third stage: Orbital insertion and Injection burn Fourth stage: Orbital manuvering Fifth stage: Skycrane, and to do a little bit of orbital manovering. NOTES: It does NOT have enough fuel to get into orbit. It relys on aerobraking. A PE of about 6-10 KM should do fine. Use the aerospikes to decelerate, so that you are going slow enough for the parachutes to FULLY deploy. They will not have enough drag by themselves, so they would rip off at 500m. This craft relys on precison. It doesent have mutch margin for error, and the first times i did it I ran out of fuel. However, when I did a more precise burn, right when i was supposed to, I still had half fuel on the skycrane, and the nuclear engine. Therefor, there is margin for error, but be careful. I wish you good luck! (will soon be realsing a better version that can reach JOOL)