Sirine

@ Camaron Anyway thanks for the challenge hosted. I'm having learning new things too. I will try the manned mission later if got some times to spare.

@ Hodo : Perhaps you should just throw in a few flavored craft and see how is the participant like it. And choose the most popular one for voting.

@ Hodo : Somehow I know, sooner or later your will be in this challenge. You space-plane are legendary. But, well what would you bring out to attracts more votes? Hints: It depends on who your competitor are. So far, 1 Mod heavy, 1 Purely stock.

Thanks for the clearification. Heading to VAB now. Craft file -->> http://www./download/doe9dokkyb1v795/Simple_SSTO.craft Scoring: -Achieve Orbit: +2,000 points = yes -Safe Landing - 0 parts broken: +3,000 points = no (yes, if on land) -Rocky Landing (less than five parts broken): +1,000 points = yes (if on water/land, Just retrieve on of the landing leg. And it will naturally fall down and break the parts.) -For every 10m maximum altitude you achieve over 70,000: +1 point (I actually achieve 74x90km, but missing that screenshot, I will take that 74km.) +400 points -If you somehow reach Kerbin Escape Velocity, +5,000 points. Make sure you reel it back in, though. = no -Every part beyond 25 will reduce your final score 1% = Total parts 10. Total: 2000+1000+400 = 3400 Update:- Scoring: -Achieve Orbit: +2,000 points = yes -Safe Landing - 0 parts broken: +3,000 points = Yes -Rocky Landing (less than five parts broken): +1,000 points = No -For every 10m maximum altitude you achieve over 70,000: +1 point (Achieve 71x90km.) +2000 points -If you somehow reach Kerbin Escape Velocity, +5,000 points. Make sure you reel it back in, though. = no -Every part beyond 25 will reduce your final score 1% = Total parts 14. Total: 2000+3000+2000 = 7000 (Same craft just add in 4 batteries. For SAS "reaction wheel" control.) Updates 2:- I have achieve Kerbin Escape Velocity. 3431.0m/s. With the same craft, remove SAS unit and add in another fuel tank. Thats all. Total points...well I'm too lazy to calculate the altitude marks. (Over 83547K). It took more than 141days (Kerbin times). With the auto parachute Pre-open back to 1st album. I have confident that I can land back to Kerbin 1 in piece. Perhaps you should add a rules about "Manned mission only." Else I think I have already achieve you maximum points available.

@ GluttonyReaper : Well done. Your main point for selling are the Hitchiker module? Fully stock are much appreciable by non-mod heavy player. And detail flight profile too. Wish you luck on getting more vote! Update:- Tested your craft. Nose heavy at the beginning, but after at high altitude >10km, it become very stable. Easy to handle. A thumb up design. Below are some of my suggestion. Perhaps you should include "press 2 to turn off the Air-intake". And tuning on the control surface, will guaranty more safe landing.

Another question. -Rocky Landing (less than four parts broken): +1,000 points What rocky means here? No part broken +0 points. Broken part during landing, but not more than 4 parts broken +1000points? (1~4) Or:- Part broken: 0~4 during landing = +1000points?

SSTO is single stage to orbit, and it always refer to an airplane/spaceplane type of craft. You might want to consider change it to. "Zero Disposed Orbiter and Lander."

Sorry, but what was your question again?

@TJPrime : Looking forward for your entry. @Voculus : A very impressive entry. However, please be realize that there will be only 1 entry per participant. Your may promote both of your craft now and see which is more popular (higher chance of getting vote). Later before the deadline, please let me know which one to put for voting. @Pecan : Space-plane it is. Added. However VTOL is acceptable. As long as the craft is look like a plane, rather then rocket with wings stick on both side.

Congratulation for the winner! 1) O-Doc - Robin v1.0 - Stock 2) Overfloater - Astro-Cruiser - Stock AND Wanderfound - Kerbodyne Migration - Mod (FAR) Polling Started! 1st part (1~10): Above. 2nd part (11~20): http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/92669-Better-SSTO-Spaceplane-Challenge-%280-23-5-0-24%29-Polling-Started%21%28Second-Part%29 3rd Part (21~26): http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/92670-Better-SSTO-Spaceplane-Challenge-%280-23-5-0-24%29-Polling-Started%21%28Third-Part%29 Challenge timeframe:- Challenge Start: 16-July-2014 Challenge End: 31-Aug-2014 Well, to be fair as a challenge host, I will not be participate in this challenge. Challenge Instruction:- Create a SSTO (Single Stage to Orbit) "Air+Space Craft". A space-plane. You craft must be look like a plane, fly like a plane. Not rockets with wings. Challenge guideline. 1) Single Stage to Orbit. (Means stage 0 only) 2) You must start from the runway. Liftoff horizontally and able to land horizontally. 3) No science equipments required. (No bonus for that, but if you like it, why not?) Challenge Rules. 1) There will be PUBLIC poll-voting. After challenge close 31-Aug-2014. Only participants are allow to vote. And you can NOT vote for yourself. 2) You are allow to use any part, Stock or Mods. And must specify which/what mod you have used. Especially:FAR. So other can have a chance to test flight your SSTO. 4) Maximum parts allows 200. 5) No Alt-F12 part clipping. (Normal means part clipping allow). Example: "Editor Extensions Mod" are allow. Engines clipping each other are allow. Just don't Alt-F12. 6) A screenshot of your craft established standard LKO (min. 70kmx70km) with resource tap open and .craft file must be made available. 7) Flight ascend (takeoff) profile must include in in-game .craft description. Just click on your craft name a drop box will show up for you to input. Like below example. Winning reference. 1) Make an SSTO that everybody love. 2) Try to promote your SSTO to participant. Due to only participant are allow to vote. 3) You are allow to change your .craft (posted) (to draw in more vote) until the times-up, challenge close. 4) Only 1 submission per participant. (Update craft please replace your 1st submitted post. Cause I'm address linking it from there.) 5) Try to include your SSTO flight statistic, such as description, usage, part count, weight, action group key etc...so, other will be interest in your SSTO. Since I've got some spare times. Let me explain the trick of this challenge. 1) Everybody can submit their craft, even they ignore the rules, and they will be listed. So, they are eligible to vote. Hence, 2) Participant who don't like rules to be broken, have their right to voice out (pursued) other participants for not vote for him/her. However, please do this in a civil manner. (Remember that they can aways update their craft file until challenge deadline.) 3) All participant have their right to choose who they like to vote for. (and pursued other voter, to their liking.) 4) You main objective are to win the vote from other participants. 5) Be nice to each other for participant, cause they hold your vote. (Be civil) 6) You (Forum-er) don't like something, you have the right to say it. So, participant can improve it. But the decision to improve it is totally up to the participant. 7) You are encourage to promote your craft. State how good your craft are. Compete/compare with others participant. Example: Yours have the most Delta-v? or Most simple/easy to fly? Fastest time to achieve LKO? Most dummy-prof design? Most ugly? Most beautiful? Most aerodynamic? Most safe? Carry most passengers? Most cost saving? Most expensive? Most clipped? etc... Winner rewards. 1) A logo showing (Your Forum ID) that you are capable of creating a Better SSTO. (Pending Updates) 2) There will be top 3 winner!. 3) "Star" rewards for video recording.✪ Poll board. All participant will be listed. (Even they break the rules.) Forum only provide single vote system. You can NOT vote for yourself. 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If you find that you need to provide me more presenting craft outlook for the listing. Please do so.

This might give you some ideal.

On launch pad, switch the Navball mode from surface to orbit. Hit the launch sequence, notice the Prograde marker raise to 45 degree, start turn and let the marker maintain at 45 degree all the time until your desire altitude high, example 70km. stop engines. sail to 5 second. and perform orbit movement. If you have a slow rocket (low TWR) you may consider 60 degree. I find this method to be the best. It apply to all various type of rockets. and maintain a stable and good reference.

And thanks for who voted me.

You should bring out your episod number 2 of that challenge. *That challenge. I wonder if your save game (0.22) still work.

https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/kerbal-teachers/Oy7qeO9wAWw You see what I see?

One interesting point.. .Pluto and Charon are facing each other 'as always' the same direction. Like in synchronize orbit. (Check the image)

Congratulation!

As per title. 1 more year and we will have a real close picture taken of Pluto. Cant wait to see them. The orbit looks like this.

33m/s are a bit harsh for new player.

I dont know, but for me, mostly RCS are for fine docking movement. The SAS reaction wheel are for turning.

Only promote own craft at initial post. Noted that. Thanks.

All previous "Better Stock Crafts Challenge" do have participants presenting their own ideal on how and why they vote for certain people, and they do put it in spreadsheets, with various 'technical data' base on their own judgement. So, you want other to just shut up and vote? Or It just me.

Well, I apologies if offended you somehow. Much appreciated if you could explain a little bit of my non-intentional rudeness. However, promoting own craft so other could vote for you. I don't see thats a problem.

My vote as above. My point of view. http://www./download/2kkvrw6rm3c0wrm/Book1.xlsx

It seems that the rules no.5, is contradict with rules no.6. It sounds to me like. Hey, don't tell how good your rocket are, but explain what your rocket can do.... And seems the challenge targeting new player, a launching craft 'lifter' should be included. A complete ship. Not just the Mun Lander. (not mentions in the OP). What should we presume:- New player capable of achieve Kerbin Orbit? New player capable of targeting Mun, and understand Hohmann transfer to Mun? New player capable of capturing Mun orbit? New Player capable of landing on Mun? New Player capable of back to Kerbin?