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Thanks for all the replies! Unfortunately the Cira is 1500t at launch... Jets huh? That's a good idea, never thought of that. Definitely going to give it a try just for fun! Tried it, but the initial launch mass is too high to add 165t without it being over 1000t on the heaviest lifter under 1kt. These are both great! And they do the job. I'm leaning more towards the Lopac 18 as being a little better I think just because of simplicity. I tend to over-engineer everything until it's a giant mess, then start from scratch and do it again a couple more times till the light bulb goes off lol I think there are already several similar challenges. And I don't really want to manage a challenge because I'm only on here sporadically.

This. I watched a documentary that talked about mining asteroids and using them for refueling stations. But it would take a ton of resources to find the right asteroid, get to it, capture it, and change its course so that it doesn't continue its orbit to Jupiter, or wherever it goes. And that would probably have a small window of opportunity to accomplish it as well, so it would be difficult to plan. Also, it would need to be in a parked orbit where it would be convenient for space craft to refuel. Not necessarily around the Earth, but around Mars would be perfect for Martian exploration and possible colonization. But again, huge amount of resources just to do it.

Trying to push the limits of a lifter and always come up a couple hundred m/s short... Can anyone come up with something efficient? The catch is that the total ship needs to be under 1000 tons, no fuel from the payload can be used, and the last stage needs a bit of fuel and RCS to do a rendezvous once in orbit.

I did what's in my signature. Quite time consuming and took a long time to put together. Still far from done.

Are we talking the cinematic videos or their gameplay ones? I've only watched a few of their Twitch videos. I find them boring. They just sit there and mess around with stuff and talk to eachother. Some editing for the highlights would be nice instead of 90% boredom.

Nobody mentioned that it's standard procedure to tilt towards the east.

You mean an iphone? Seriously though, I've been using Windows Phones since around 2011 and never looked back. And I love the Nokia Lumias. I first got an 800, and then my wife wanted one so I got her a 900, and now I have a 920. People who say that the WP apps are lacking have never used it. Either that, or they're the kind of people who like the stupid toy apps that people make like light saber sounds and stuff. I'm not into those stupid apps. I also found that the Android app market is flooded with crappy apps. I have everything I need including Facebook (Which is integrated into the phone) Twitter VEVO etc. I even have a NEST app for my house's smart thermostat... And another thing I really love is that it comes with Office. And since I get a lot of work e-mails on my phone, I can open Excel spreadsheets, Word documents and Powerpoint presentations. You can also create/edit them, and store them on OneDrive which is a cloud drive that you can access from you phone, your PC, or any computer when you log into your Hotmail/Live account. I also pay the $9 a month for XBox music which lets me download as much music as I want on my phone, XBox and PC. And if you get a Nokia phone, you get free Nokia Maps and GPS turn-by-turn directions and it works really well. You still get a Maps app with ANY Windows Phone, but the Nokia Maps is better because you can download the maps to your phone, and the maps just seems better with better search results too. Not 100% sure if you can download the maps to your phone with just stock maps app... A few months ago I got an update which includes Cortana. Cortana is the better windows version of Siri, if Siri were a lot smarter. I'm really amazed at what you can say and do with it, like "Remind me when I get home to check my e-mails" or "Remind me next time I talk to Jim to ask about the meeting.", or anything including setting calendar appointments, doing searches etc etc. It's also really funny to ask her to do impressions or tell a joke. Anyways, I'll never go back to Android, and I never liked iPhoney (No offence to anyone that owns one, I just don't like anything about them), and it seems like every time a friend asks about my phone and they play with it for a little bit, they end up buying one.

I posted that because you were talking about waiting an hour for a Laythe transfer window (below) Was just trying to help you out with such waiting times which aren't necessary with Time Control...

Try using Time Control http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/69363-0-25-Time-Control-9-23-14-v13-2 Sometimes I don't know what I'd do without it. I'm not patient enough to wait for slow time warp limits, and this lets you change them. I love it because I can change the maximum warp to 400000x or 500000x or whatever I want. Makes doing orbital transfers so much faster when you have to get around to the other side of the Sun!

Did you install EVE by itself without installing a clouds mod like City Lights and Clouds?

You can disable that in the options so that building are indestructible.

Redirected Resupply It's been a few days since the crew of the Avalon left Eve's orbit on their way towards Jool. KSC's Mission Control is expecting a message from Bob. The shift on duty is minimum manning, and consists of specialists with high security clearances. The room is locked down. Admiral Samden is present, sitting next to Flight Director Jared. Jared is focused on his screen. He's contstantly reviewing data from his Flight Controllers, and the Avalon's data feed. "So, Admiral Samden... According to our ground-based sensor arrays, the signal has faded significantly and is hardly trackable.. Do you think the Avalon will be able pick anything up from their location?" The Admiral takes a breath and exhales. "Well, they do have much less interference to deal with because they're not trying to scan out through an atmosphere like we are. But they're much closer to the sun than we are. Once they pass outwards by Kerbin's orbit, they still have to pass Duna's orbit on their way to Jool. That's a long way to go, and their instruments aren't as powerful as the ones we have here." "So basically you're saying you don't know." "Basically yes. I'm sorry Jared but at this point we're all making this up as we go along." The computer screens all start flashing and beeping. Brodmund, the communications engineer yells out "Incoming transmission from Avalon! Good signal, good sync. Decrypting... Coming up on the main screen now." Bob's video stream comes up. Jared throws on his headset. "Thanks Brodmund! Alfrod! Turn that other screen off now!" Jared takes his heaset off. "Looks like they're not having any better luck than we are so far. But I'm hopeful that once they get closer, they'll find it." "How is the resupply mission going?" The Admiral asks. "Well, as you know, we've been able to redirect the resupply ship that was orbiting Moho to head for Jool. Since the Avalon did a bit of back-and-forth between Eve and Gilly, and they had to refuel twice, the resupply ship Lancer 1 should meet up with them about the same time." The Admiral is pleased with Jared's confidence and ability to go with the flow and adapt to changing situations. "Good. And now that we have confirmation that they aren't aborting the Jool transfer, we can send out Lancer 2 as well correct?" "Yes, Lancer 2 is on the launchpad now, and ready to go. We are still within the window of a Jool transfer. Lets get this off the ground before it's too late!" All the Flight Controllers start talking to each other all at the same time, typing furiously at their keyboards. Jared puts his headset back on. "And here... We... Go." No countdown is heard. The rocket just takes off. No rumbling is heard or felt, unlike the launches for the pieces of the Avalon that went up into orbit. The Lancer 2 is nothing compared to the size of those rockets... The booster quickly fall from the sides of the rocket. The Lancer gains altitude and speed quickly. It's light and sleek. The first stage is dropped. The rocket continues to soar and gain even more speed. And then, engines cut. The rocket coasts up through the atmosphere to its apoapsis. Once out of the atmosphere, the fairings separate to reveal the payload. 8 shiny new science kits. The course is set for a burn to intercept Jool. And she burns. The second stage is exhausted, and jettisoned. The final stage is one of Bill's inventions which he created with the help of an engine that Samden showed him years ago; The nuclear engine. It fires up and finishes the maneuver burn. Then falls silent. The solar panels slowly deploy and rotate to face the sun. Lancer slowly rotates, pitches and yaws with shorts RCS bursts so that it's side faces the sun, and both panels get full sunlight. Then it sits still, and goes into sleep mode. The Mission Control room is full of cheers. Another successful launch. And the redirected mission will still carry on.

Thanks! I'm really trying to catch up to the actual gameplay but I'm trying to not rush the storyline at the same time.

It's hard but doable. Many people have done it including myself several times. Frustrating yes. But lots of asparagus staging helps.

I always seem to post this, but, I highly recommend a Linux install for anyone wanting to run 64bit. It's rock solid, never crashes, and you can run as many mods as the physical memory in your computer will allow. You can also install it along side windows and have a dual boot system if you don't want to lose anything.

Research and Developments 5 years before the launch of Avalon Bill is working in his office at KSC's Rocket Propulsion Laboratory when he receives a k-mail from Colonel Samden. Bill thinks to himself 'Debris Recycling???' He's heard a rumour that there was this military man that showed up a few months ago, but Bill hadn't seen him personally. He wonders, can this guy really order him onto another project? As he stands up, Bill's supervisor steps into his office doorway. "Hey Bill, I take it you read the k-mail? I'll make sure to have all your personal belongings packed up for you to pick up." Ok, it must be legit then he thinks. He heads out to pick up his pass and makes his way to the basement. Find the Debris Recycling room, is asked for ID from the man in the room, and is shown the way, down the elevator, and across the long hallway. The door at the end of the hallway is unlocked. He walks in. "What.... what is all this?" He spots the Colonel sitting at a desk across this strange empty room. And walks over. The Colonel looks up. "Ah Bill! Here have a seat." "First of all, I've heard a lot about you and I've read your file. You're one of our best engineers, if not THE best." "Well, thank you Sir. Can I ask what's going on?" "First off, as you know, I'm Colonel Samden. I'm the new Chief Military Advisor here at KSC." "Yes, I've heard, well, rumours about you, but I don't know what you're doing working here. Why does KSC need a military advisor?" "Because, we have some special projects. Some, secret projects, that we can't entrust to most civilians. So we have a sector of military here, all with top secret security clearances, and we recruit those from the civilian sector that we feel we need the most for our projects." Bill thinks they're here to build weapons. Why else would the military be here? "So, what kind of projects are we talking about?" "Well we have many. I can't divulge them all, but, I need you on one of them. I'm sure you're aware of Project Avalon?" "Oh yeah. That mission to build a mothership that will take us around the solar system to all the planets" Bill laughs "I can't imagine how big THAT rocket would have to be!" The Colonel squints his eyes. "Yes, well, that's part of the reason why you're here. We need you to work on the engines that would take the ship around our system." Bill was wondering if that's what this was about. He is after all, an engineer... "What? When I heard about the project, I thought it wasn't doable. I saw requirements for the ship, and how big it will be. So I started crunching numbers, and even if we COULD build a rocket big enough to go around the whole solar system, if would be too big to get into space! And, the fuel... Do you realize how much fuel it would take to RUN that rocket?" "Yes, well, that's where our new engine comes in." Bill is puzzled. "New engine? What new engine? We haven't designed any engine big enough to do the task." "Well," The Colonel sighs... "we already have an engine that we need to finish." "We? Who? What engine?" The Colonel stands up. "Come with me Bill, and I'll show you." They walk back across the room to a hatch in the wall. Through the hatch is a long hallway with several doors on the sides. They walk down past a few and then stop at one of them. "Now Bill, do you really want to be a part of this? You do realize that you'll never be able to tell anyone about this right?" Bill thinks for a second. What could be so secretive? Do I really need to make a big decision here? I just want to see what he's talking about! "Right, I'm on board Colonel." They step through the door into a large dark room. The Colonel closes the door behind them. "Welcome to your new laboratory. I'll show you what we found, and what your new project is going to be. Let me hit the lights..." He walks away, and then a clicking noise. The room lights up. "What is THAT!?!?" "This is going to be our new engines that will propel the Avalon to ALL the planets!" Bill is frozen. Staring at this giant engine. But, it looks broken and very damaged. There's pieces of mounts, parts of a hull, hoses sticking out, scorch marks... It look like it got ripped out of a ship, or fell off. Kerbin designs tend to have parts fall off... But he doesn't recognize any of the parts. NOTHING looks familiar, and Bill's been involved in space rocketry for decades... Bill finally speaks up "So.... so. This is what? I mean, I know it's an engine, but, what kind? Who built it?" "Come on over here!" The Colonel shouts. "It's not gonna bite! Have a look around!" Bill walks up the ramp and starts walking very slowly around the engine. He checks out every part he sees. That looks structural... some kind of venting system... that's a wiring harness for, something... that's a piece of hull... some shielding... a gimbal mount... "Ok Colonel. I've never seen anything like this and nothing looks familiar. Who built this?" "Well, that's not important, to you. What IS important is that we need to get this engine working again." "GET IT WORKING??? I have no idea what I'm looking at! I don't know where to start...." The Colonel sits on the edge of the platform next to Bill. "Well. For starters, we know that it's nuclear powered, but it still has fuel lines." Now Bill is really in disbelief. "Nuclear powered? How can this be nuclear powered!?!? We only discovered radiation and the theory, the possibility of nuclear powered energy last year!" "Yes. This is leaps and bounds beyond what we can do. But, we have been able to detect some radiation coming from inside the engine. My technicians took a few panels apart to see if they could figure out how it works and have a look inside, but some of the panels were shielding the radiation. Our detectors went off the charts when we opened some of them up. So we closed it all back up again and decided to recruit an expert engineer. You." Who could possibly design such an advanced engine. KSC is the world leader is space travel and science. As far as Bill knew, there were no other agencies in the world that could do this. "Ok Colonel, so you won't tell me who built it, but can you tell me where you got it from? It's obviously from a damaged ship. One that didn't manage to take off maybe?" "No Bill, I can't tell you that either. But I can tell you that we found it in the mountains just to the west of here." "Well what else did you find?" "I can't tell you that either Bill. I've told you what I can tell you. From here on out, you're the man. My technicians are at your disposal and you are the project leader, and you report directly to me and only me. You start tomorrow. We need to get this thing working again." Bill is on the fence. He's really excited to work on this new technology, but at the same time, all this secrecy scares him and he want to quit and go back to his old job. "Ok. I'll start first thing tomorrow morning Sir. I'm sure we can figure this thing out eventually. We just need to be careful." "Yes, and one more thing. Once you get it working, I need you to copy it and build 5 more just like it."

Change of Plans The course for Gilly has been set. Bob wakes the crew via the intercom so they can make their way to the Command Module for the transfer burn. Bill heads over to Jeb's room to talk. "Oh hey Jeb, glad I caught you before heading out. I got something to talk to you about." "Hey Bill, ya I just got dressed. Slept like a baby! What's up?" Bill takes a quick peek up the ladder to make sure nobody's there. "Well, I'm just wondering... Do you know anything about this mission that the rest of us don't know about?" "Huh? What are you talking about?" Jeb looks puzzled... "I mean, a secret mission or something. There's something going on that Bob's not telling us about, and since you're second in command, I figured maybe you know something. He received a secret encrypted message from KSC but he won't tell me what it was. And now, after we visit Gilly, we're going to Jool instead of Moho!" Jeb gets a little upset... "What? No, he never told me anything about secret messages or secret missions! Why wouldn't he tell any of us? And why is KSC keeping things from us about the mission?" "I don't know Jeb. But there are some strange things going on over at KSC. I mean, the things I worked on when we designed Avalon were really really advanced. I had never seen anything like it before. Don't you find it strange that all of a sudden, KSC had these new nuclear engines that can take us all around the whole solar system?" "Yeah, well, I figured they had been working on them for a long time in secret or something..." "No Jeb. I helped them get these engines working properly for Avalon. But it seemed that nobody really knew how they were suppose to work." "What are you saying Bill?" "I don't know, it doesn't matter. All I want to be sure about is that if you know something that I don't, you'd tell me, right?" "Well yeah, why wouldn't I?" "Well, you know Bob and I don't see eye to eye about a lot of things, and I'm pretty sure he's going to keep me in the dark. Anyways, let's get back to the CM, we're about to burn to Gilly." Everyone is strapped in their seats and ready to go. Bill goes through his checklist and gives the thumbs up. "Ready to go, 20 seconds to burn....." "7, 6, 5" Jeb suddenly realized that he left an opened bottle of Koka Kola sitting on his desk.... "Damnit!" "1, ignition!" Avalon burns towards Gilly for a landing and refuelling mission. Bill: "Liquid Fuel Booster Rockets are almost empty. Standby for decoupling. The mounts on these things are huge so it's gonna be a big bang!" The ship rattles like it's in an earthquake and a loud explosion is heard like there's a thundercloud inside the ship. Bill: "Boosters away." The Avalon gracefully glides forward as the rockets lose acceleration and drift back into the darkness of space. Bob checks over the ship's flight data. "Ok, we're running solely on nuclear engines now, but that's ok. We don't have the huge Adam lander to tug around anymore." Bill checks fuel levels. "Right, and our Auxiliary fuel tanks are now empty as well. Going to jettison them now. This'll save us even more weight. Wow, what a cleverly designed ship" He smirks to himself... "Auxiliary tanks away." The crew immediately feels the ship accelerate faster with the lost weight. A short time later, engines are cut, and the Avalon coasts towards Gilly. The crew preps the Dawn lander for descent to Gilly, and diagnostics are run on the mining ship to refuel. "Burning retrograde for Gilly capture!" Bob says Bob: "Alright, Joemal, deploy the mining rig and start the refuelling trips. Jeb, get into Dawn and head on down. This should be an easy one with such low gravity." "Roger!" "Roger!" The mining rig slowly pulls away on manual controls until it's clear from Avalon. From there it will follow an automatic program to land, mine, convert, and return to Avalon to refuel her. It takes several trips. Jeb jumps into Dawn and begins his descent Jeb comes on over the radio comms "Burning retro and heading down..." Due to the low gravity of Gilly, it seems to take forever to fall down to the surface. "This is crazy easy!" Jeb says over the comms "I don't seem to be landing on flat ground here but it shouldn't be a problem" Dawn touches down so lightly that Jeb hardly feels it and has to look out the window to make sure he actually landed. "Ok, touchdown. Deploying the ladder and heading out for samples and to plant a flag..." He fires up the science kit to start collecting data and opens the hatch. He steps out and doesn't bother using the ladder. He just jumps forward slightly and floats down. "This reminds me of Minmus! But only better!" He gets down and plays around for a bit, jumping and walking on his fingertips. After a bit of horseplay and throwing rocks into space, he collects some rocks and soil and heads back into Dawn. "Hey, I can see Eve from here! Looks like a shiny purple marble!" His rendezvous window approaches and he lifts off. So little fuel is needed he figures he could have just used RCS to get into orbit! He joins back up with Avalon and docks. This was such an easy mission, he almost wants to do it again! Joemal: "Alright, the mining rig is about to dock and we'll have full tanks. There's still going to be plenty of Karbonite left in the mining rig as well, so we have extra fuel." "Perfect!" Bob replies. "Bill, are we ready for the Jool burn?" "Yeah, it's probably not the most efficient... We'l need to aerobrake on Eve again and then make adjustments, and go from there. We have more than enough fuel to get there, but I suggest we head straight for Vall to refuel again." "Ok, sounds like a plan. Punch it in and let's get going. It's gonna be a long haul." Jeb makes his way back into the CM after transferring the experiments to Avalon's storage. Everyone is back in their seats and the course is set. The engines spool up. Bob: "Goodbye Gilly. We might need to see you again in the future...." The ships re-enters Eve's atmosphere. The aerobraking was too much and resulted in a capture. Bill didn't take into account the extra weight from the full Karbonite tanks. The crew scrambles to quickly create a new maneuver that will get them on their way. They burn at the node, but it's not enough to fight the gravity. So they fire up the mining rig's engines as well for more thrust. And then, they're on their way. Bob pants "That was... almost a total disaster!" Bill nods in wide eyed agreeance "Ya... my bad! Didn't ever plan on flying with a full Karbonite tank....." "That's ok, we're on our way now." "Listen Bob, there's something going on with our deep space scanners. I've been running scans of Jool, you know, to plot our course and look for any possible problems. And... Well, some of the scanning abilities seem to be disabled... I can't scan for electromagnetic signatures, or radar, or photon pulse signatures, or, well, almost everything is disabled..." "Well Bill, that's something else that, well, that I can't" "You can't talk about, right, yes, don't worry, I'm seeing the pattern here.... So we're just going to head over there blindly then?" "No no, I'm actually going for crew rest and I'll be on the next shift. I'll do some scanning then. Don't worry, we have lots of time before we get there. LOTS and lots of time." "Ok fine" Bill says as he shuts down his console. "I'll just sit here, look out the window, and count the stars. Am I allowed to do that?" "Ok. Trust me on this ok? I'll tell you everything soon enough. Well, maybe, that is, if we find... Just trust me." Bob floats out of the CM along with the rest of the off-shift crew for the first of many long nights adrift in space.

Ascent into Madness Bob comes up over the Avalon's intercom "All crew return to the command module for Adam's launch" Everyone pops back into the CM. Bill and Bob gives each other a bit of a look and then look away. Bill is obviously still a little upset about the secrets that Bob has, but now is not the time for squabbles. Jeb needs to return to the Avalon safely. Bob turns to Wilbur "We need a backup plan in case things go wrong and Jeb can't quite make it. Go prep the Dawn lander for launch in case we need to perform a rescue." Wilbur's face goes blank "But, I'm not that good at rendezvous! I'm just a technician, I'm just here to repair things, I'm not supposed" Bob cuts him off "RELAX Wilbur! If something goes wrong, I'll be the one piloting Dawn. Just go prep it for me." Bill turns to Bob "There's only room for one person in Dawn..." "Yes, but we COULD cram two of us if I had to, it just won't be comfortable. But really, there's no need. As long as Jeb's fine, he can hold onto the ladder outside the pod and I'll bring him back." The Avalon makes its way around Eve, and the Adam lander is ready to launch and rendezvous. Jeb comes up over the comms "Autopilot is set, all systems are ready to go." Bill is checking over Adam's systems remotely and gives Bob the thumbs up. Bob: "Alright Jeb, just let the autopilot do its thing. And remember, you need to abort if things go wrong and redeploy the chutes, so arm them now." Jeb realizes that he configured the staging to drop the chutes right away on take off to save weight. "Uh, ok, will do! Reaction wheels online, and, 5,4,3,2,1, Lift off!" The engines all fire up. All 9 aerospikes are rumbling and shaking Adam violently as it slowly starts to ascend. And seconds later, a loud BANG that rattles Jeb around in his seat. He places his hand over the abort button and has a look out the window. "Oh good, it was just the landing legs and chutes decoupling... That was louder than I thought it was gonna be!" Adam starts picking up speed. The 2 large reaction wheels are working well enough that the RCS system isn't needed. This make Jeb feel better about the rendezvous with Avalon because he tends to overuse the thrusters. "28 meters per second and accelerating..." The first set of aerospikes are dropped and Jeb feels the lack of acceleration from the missing engines. But it's slowly regained as the first axillary tanks are empties and dropped. Stage after stage of the outer tanks are expended, and the smaller Rockomax 48's take over. TWR is still enough to gain speed and things look good. "I'm at 22 KM's up, all is green, about to drop the last LV engine..." Bill and Bob are both sitting silent. Bill is staring at his console monitoring Adam's systems and trajectory. Bob is leaning over to see what Bill is looking at. Sweat is forming on his brow. He knows the Adam lander was completely theoretical, and its completion was rushed to fit with the Avalon's launch date. Jeb: "Plenty of Delta V left, looks good so far!" "Last stage ready to drop. Rendezvous looks good!" The last 2 tanks pop off with a slight ping. A big relief to Jeb, knowing that there's not much left to get back to the Avalon, and the hardest parts are over. "Getting ready to burn circularization maneuver. Over 2000 meters per second Delta V left." Bob sinks back into his seat. "Thank Kod...." Bill sighs "Ok... Circularization complete at 100KM. Still have almost 1200 Delta V remaining. Coasting to rendezvous." Rendezvous is completed and Jeb navigates the tiny pod slowly towards the Avalon Command Module. He collects his soil sample and the hard drives containing all the experimental data from Eve, and then heads out the hatch. He drifts towards the CM and stores the experiments in the special storage compartments of the Avalon. He then makes his way towards the front of the ship and enters the depressurized Dusk lander to use it as an airlock. Dusk is repressurized and he gets back into Avalon, heading for the Command Module. Meanwhle, Bill is remotely controlling the Adam pod's RCS system to push it away from the Avalon. Jeb pops into the CM "I'm baaaaack!" Bob starts clapping "Awesome job Jeb! I knew you could do it! Kerbals have now stepped foot on another planet!" The rest of the crew joins Bob in applause. Jeb is all smiles "Well thanks guys. It was the best experience ever! I mean, the Mun and Minmus were really starting to get boring ya know?" Bob tries to get things serious again "Alright alright guys, so yes. This was a huge step for us, and Jeb, you should feel proud to know that you're the first, and so far, the only Kerbal to set foot on another planet. But we have so much more to do." Bill starts typing on his console "Yes, and I've already plotted a course to head back to Gilly, and I'll start right now plotting a course from Gilly to...." Bob cuts him off "Jool". The entire crew shouts all at once "WHAT?!?!?!?!?" Bill's face turns light-green "JOOL!?!?!? That's not that plan! Why are we going to Jool???" Bob: "Because, that's where we need to go next." Bob says in an authoritative voice. Bill: "But that's not what we have planned! We have fuelling points at certain moons! The entire trip is laid out in the most effective manner! Why are we skipping to Jool? Are we not going to Moho anymore? Or Duna? Or Dres?" Bob: "Listen guys, yes, we are still going to hit every body in our system, but, I have strict orders, and we're going to Jool after Gilly." Bill: "Does this have something to do with that secret message you got?" Bob: "Maybe. You don't need to know right now!" Bill: "YES! I DO! I need to plot our courses and make sure we can get to where we're trying to go! I need to make sure the Avalon can get us there! I need to know WHY I need to rework my plans!" Bob: "Look, I promise you, you will be briefed when we get there, but I have orders, and now I've given YOU orders. So please, plot us a course from Gilly to Jool. Bill: "Fine, but if ANYTHING goes wrong on this mission because of our changed plans, don't even think of blaming it on me!" Bob: "I wouldn't Bill. Now, lets get prepped for the trip to Gilly. We'll also need to refuel when we get there. Jeb, you're on crew rest for the next 12 hours so you can go relax for now until we launch for Gilly." Jeb along with the night crew head back to the accommodations to get some rest. Jeb is exhausted from the high gravity of Eve and falls asleep as soon as his head hits the pillow. Bill starts punching in numbers into his console for a Gilly-Jool trip. Bob sits in his chair staring out the cockpit window, and thinking of the conversation he had so long ago with Admiral Samden. And far off in the distance, he spots a dim green light and gets a knot in his stomach...

Any pics of said plane? A common reason for this is that the rear wheels aren't pointed staight down to the ground and are slightly angled out to the sides.

Then stop complaining and post up specs and stats. Heck I even posted a video!

Ya that's happened to me too. Pretty funny to see tho

I'd be happy with yellow, as long as its not red

Ah. I see what you did there...

Posted yesterday -> http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/97914-Best-Explosions

I agree with both statements here. My specs: CPU: i7 4790K overclocked at 4.5Ghz RAM: 16GB HyperX Fury ocverclocked @ 2400 Motherboard: MSI Z97-GD65 Gaming board GPU: 2x Radeon HD 5830's crossfired and overclocked PSU: Thermaltake 750W HDD #1: Three Spinpoint S4's in RAID 0 config (OSes, programs and important data) HDD #2: 1TB Western Digital Black (Storage for music, downloads and movies) Case: Coolermaster CM690II lined with sound-deadening Spire Soundpad matting on both side panels Case Cooling: 5 fans for case controlled by Scythe fan controller CPU Cooling: CPU is watercooled with Corsair H80i watercooler. I recorded a video as well. Unfortunately the recorder bogs the CPU during the game, and I do get much better FPS when not recording. I tried a few screen recorders and ended up using Bandicam. For some reason though, I can't get FPS to show on screen. I also tried recording with FRAPS running but it also won't show it. I also downloaded a mod called ShowFPS that is supposed to show it in-game, but it doesn't seem to work with .25. Anyways, I loaded up TimeControl because that at least shows you what percentage of game speed it's running at. But as you can see, it's still very smooth and playable even with 600 parts, and only gets better from there. You need to watch it in HD to make out the part numbers and game speed. All graphics settings are also on MAX. WITH screen recording software I get: It starts off launching from the launchpad around 25-30FPS. Stage 12(469 parts) it's just over 40FPS. Stage 9 (285 parts) it's at 70FPS. And it just goes up from there until I'm burning the last stage at 140FPS. WITHOUT the screen recorder running I get much better: It starts off launching from the launchpad around 45FPS. Stage 12(469 parts) it's just over 65FPS. Stage 9 (285 parts) it's at 90FPS. And it just goes up from there until I'm burning the last stage at 160FPS. Quite happy with the setup and I think I'll make a 1000-part ship to see what the limit is until it's not smooth anymore... I may record another video just recording my monitor with a camera so you can see the difference. I also want to figure out how to get the FPS up on the screen...