[KSP 1.4.5] [x] Science! - KSP Science report and checklist (V5.17)

[Sidelia]

8 hours ago, Flupster said:

I just update the mod at this point to the latest version, I don't really make any changes, but looking at the ScheduleExperimentUpdate function, this would add 5 seconds to every event, just extending it from 1s to 5s?

		// Schedules a full experiment update in 1 second.
		// In addition to the events we hook, this is also called bu the parent when
		// the system has been sleeping and wakes up.  Eg when the window is made visible.
		public void ScheduleExperimentUpdate( bool FullRefresh = false, int AddTime = 1 )
		{
			_nextExperimentUpdate = DateTime.Now.AddSeconds( AddTime );
			if( FullRefresh )
				_mustDoFullRefresh = true;
		}

Also updated [x] Science! for 1.6 over at https://github.com/Flupster/KSP-X-Science/releases/latest

Yes you're right. Any time science is added to the main pool it takes 5 secs to update instead of 1. It gets rid of the major stutter but is noticeable when doing biome hopping, especially with timewarp. More of a bandaid fix.

[Solar_Ranger24]

Im having trouble installing this mod and I cant find any install instructions, how does one install XScience?

[linuxgurugamer]

1. Download the mod
2. Open the zip file (assuming windows)
3. You will see a folder called GameData.  Double-click on it to open it up
4. Now you will see a folder called [x] Science!  Leave this open for now
5. Find and open your KSP directory
6. In there, double-click on GameData
7. Now, using the mouse, drag the folder called [x] Science! into the GameData folder from the KSP directory.  Make sure you don't drop it on top of any folder in that directory
8. When done, you should see the [x] Science! folder in the GameData directory.
9. Close all folders and start the game

[linuxgurugamer]

On 12/26/2018 at 8:31 AM, Solar_Ranger24 said:

Im having trouble installing this mod and I cant find any install instructions, how does one install XScience?

Do you still need help (and did you see my post above)?

[Solar_Ranger24]

1 hour ago, linuxgurugamer said:

Do you still need help (and did you see my post above)?

Sorry, yes i've sorted it out, i was using the wrong version for KSP 1.5.1 but i found the new version and that worked fine, thanks.

[Timbouctou]

Nice, but could you update it for 1.5 and 1.6 please

[Benur]

35 minutes ago, Timbouctou said:

Nice, but could you update it for 1.5 and 1.6 please

Check post from Flupster, yesterday: "Also updated [x] Science! for 1.6 over at https://github.com/Flupster/KSP-X-Science/releases/latest "

[DarkEyye]

Very nice mod, but please update for 1.6.x  

[Solar_Ranger24]

2 hours ago, Timbouctou said:

Nice, but could you update it for 1.5 and 1.6 please

@linuxgurugamer has made a version for 1.5, i can't find the link right now but i'll post later

[BlackHat]

2 hours ago, Timbouctou said:

Nice, but could you update it for 1.5 and 1.6 please

The current Mod Maintainer/Thread Author (Z-Key Aerospace) has not been on in a few months.

But Flupster has been maintaining it in his place until he returns.

But the new versions will NOT be available through CKAN. Because CKAN can only point to Z-Key Aerospace's version.

Download the .zip for the version you want. 

1.5.1 - https://github.com/Flupster/KSP-X-Science/releases/tag/5.18.1

1.6 - https://github.com/Flupster/KSP-X-Science/releases/tag/5.19.0

Edited December 30, 2018 by BlackHat

[linuxgurugamer]

15 minutes ago, Solar_Ranger24 said:

@linuxgurugamer has made a version for 1.5, i can't find the link right now but i'll post later

No, I'm maintaining Science Alert!

[Solar_Ranger24]

Sorry, my bad. Its been a busy week!!! 

[fr33soul]

does it work for ksp 1.6?

[Cruesoe]

On 12/30/2018 at 7:51 PM, BlackHat said:

The current Mod Maintainer/Thread Author (Z-Key Aerospace) has not been on in a few months.

But Flupster has been maintaining it in his place until he returns.

But the new versions will NOT be available through CKAN. Because CKAN can only point to Z-Key Aerospace's version.

Download the .zip for the version you want. 

1.5.1 - https://github.com/Flupster/KSP-X-Science/releases/tag/5.18.1

1.6 - https://github.com/Flupster/KSP-X-Science/releases/tag/5.19.0

@fr33soul sometimes it pays to just scroll up a bit. Like three posts above yours.

[fr33soul]

27 minutes ago, Cruesoe said:

@fr33soul sometimes it pays to just scroll up a bit. Like three posts above yours.

tryed it but it seems to have some issue with the graphics.. sometimes the game lags a bit.

[Cruesoe]

There is quite a lag with this mod at times. It is known.

I use it for the completed list and not to alert me to local science so that eliminates the lag it seems.

[BlackHat]

Yep that's probably the best way to use it. Using it as a list to see whats available/remaining in areas your going to, and use:

to see when you have science available to do now.

[Black-Two-]

23 hours ago, Cruesoe said:

I use it for the completed list and not to alert me to local science so that eliminates the lag it seems.

Are there other mods that just do this? I like this one but the lag is annoying...

[Cruesoe]

54 minutes ago, Black-Two- said:

Are there other mods that just do this? I like this one but the lag is annoying...

Not that I'm aware of. Wish there was.

[steve_v]

On 1/14/2019 at 5:47 AM, Cruesoe said:

I use it for the completed list and not to alert me to local science so that eliminates the lag it seems.

FWIW, both [x]Science and ScienceAlert cause a considerable framerate hit for me on 1.5.1. [x]Science however only does this when the window is open and it is checking for biome changes / experiment availability. ScienceAlert appears to do these checks constantly in order to update the icon. Perhaps there's a common method causing this?

[linuxgurugamer]

34 minutes ago, steve_v said:

FWIW, both [x]Science and ScienceAlert cause a considerable framerate hit for me on 1.5.1. [x]Science however only does this when the window is open and it is checking for biome changes / experiment availability. ScienceAlert appears to do these checks constantly in order to update the icon. Perhaps there's a common method causing this?

Somewhat inevitable given the functionality.

Which one is worse?  And can you be a bit more specific as to the impact?

 

[steve_v]

33 minutes ago, linuxgurugamer said:

can you be a bit more specific as to the impact?

I didn't do a lot of testing as I am a little liquided with KSP development at the moment and usually playing something else. However with ScienceAlert I was seeing framerates drop from 60+(vsync) to ~40 while flying over terrain.
This is a fairly heavily modded game, but removing ScienceAlert alone restores FPS. Likewise [x]Science, though I have it installed now as I can endure reduced performance temporarily while the window is open.

[x]Science appears to have a very similar impact, perhaps slightly less severe, but only when the "here and now" window is open.
This is new to me as of 1.5.1, I have not tried any 1.4.x KSP but I can confirm that the performance hit is not present, or so minimal I have not noticed it, in 1.3.1.

I don't see anything incriminating in my log, nor a likely candidate amongst the other mods I have installed. You will probably have a better idea though, so take a look if you wish.

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Log (huge, [x]science installed, I am aware of the errors from AGM): https://www.dropbox.com/s/9u7qpv5jpt8gt2d/Player.log.gz?dl=0

 

Edited January 14, 2019 by steve_v

[linuxgurugamer]

From looking at your log, you are running KSP 1.2.2, please confirm.

And if so, then there is nothing for me to do.  Both [x]Science and Science Alert have had significant updates since the 1.2.2 days

I also didn't see any issues from AGM

[steve_v]

9 minutes ago, linuxgurugamer said:

From looking at your log, you are running KSP 1.2.2, please confirm.

Sorry, looks like dropbox screwed me somehow and gave me a link to a previous upload. Try this one: https://www.dropbox.com/s/q2564fgrci8iptz/Player.log?dl=0

I'm actually getting kinda liquided with dropbox too, I'll have to start hosting this stuff myself, and you cats can just suck up my self-signed cert.

Edited January 14, 2019 by steve_v

[linuxgurugamer]

13 minutes ago, steve_v said:

Sorry, looks like dropbox screwed me somehow and gave me a link to a previous upload. Try this one: https://www.dropbox.com/s/q2564fgrci8iptz/Player.log?dl=0

I'm actually getting kinda liquided with dropbox too, I'll have to start hosting this stuff myself, and you cats can just suck up my self-signed cert.

I figured something like that happened

Ok, now I see it's 1.5.1

Are the AGM errors from a known issue?  If not, can you provide mw with a way to replicate it?

So nothing jumps out at me, other than wondering what's going on with AGM.  I can say that you are at least one or two versions behind on AGM.  You can get the latest for 1.5.1 from here:

https://github.com/linuxgurugamer/ActionGroupManager/releases/tag/2.2.3.4

Not sure it will help, but get the ActionGroupManager-2.2.3.4.zip and install it, at least that will get you up-to-date.  Meantime, I'll take a look at it to see if I can identify any issues

I think I found the problem with AGM.

If you are willing to try a new version, then get the appropriate file from here:

https://jenkins.spacetux.net/job/A-F/job/ActionGroupManager/23/

Game version is the first part of the numeric filename.  This version includes (last one is for your issue):

• Added russion translation, thanks github user @yadenisyur
• Fixed action groups being available in flight when buildings have not been upgraded
• Removed color code from log messages
• Add check in the SetupRootModule() for null refs