sp1989 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 yeah id be happy to have a go at it.I don't think you know how happy you just made me and I assume quite a few other users out there! You sir are a steely eyed missle man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike-NZ Posted May 21, 2015 Author Share Posted May 21, 2015 new update is up for test. the SRB's are temporarily on standard decouplers while I do a bit more cfg work to them to add decoupler function.please delete old CSS folder before this one goes in and don't forget to add the extra folders included to your gamedata folder. and the craft file included is called space shuttle 2 so it wont overwrite your current.its not 100% but that's all I can do today so will finish tomorrow but its there if you want to play with for now.V1.1.4added FASA launch clampsadded new SRB'sFixed TextureSwitchremoved pink stripe from External tankCombined Crew cabin, RCS and nose together as a new partfixed eva bug on crew cabin 2enjoy!- - - Updated - - -this community is awesome. im proud to help out. truly enjoy it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DianonForce Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 I have a little wish too. Can you pleas move the part a bit higher in teh tech tree? It feels wrong to get them bevore MK3 parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike-NZ Posted May 21, 2015 Author Share Posted May 21, 2015 I sure could. But I think unlocking one piece at a time wont work. Stock game does because your ship still works and just gets upgraded with new tech. But the shuttle needs it all at once.Me personally I like to think im starting off in the current stage of real world. so I use the shuttle from the start and use FASA rockets. I will look at the tree tonight and decice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike-NZ Posted May 21, 2015 Author Share Posted May 21, 2015 The dreamchaser is a mod I would like to see working too. I wonder... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike-NZ Posted May 21, 2015 Author Share Posted May 21, 2015 @sp1989 I scaled down the new boosters to have the same diameter as the css ones which worked out to be 60%.What I can do now is shrink the new booster down more but it will be thinner or I can just stretch it vertically down to keep its diameter.What would you recomend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyMeToTheMinmus Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 I think the issue with the boosters is that you're using boosters made for an SLS pack; the SLS boosters will be one segment longer than the shuttle boosters were, meaning that at the same scale the SLS boosters will be longer.Also, the newest update of the shuttle produces quite a bit too much lift, and it doesn't seem to help with the aerodynamic instability mentioned earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheech420now Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 You should stick with only one texture switcher plugin. Id say keep firespitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike-NZ Posted May 21, 2015 Author Share Posted May 21, 2015 @cheech. good observations. But a quick study of the code in the cfg's and youll see that its not working even though it should. So I removed the firespitter fstextureswitch from the code entirely and replaced it. There are no compatibility issues between the two that I can see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sp1989 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 @sp1989 I scaled down the new boosters to have the same diameter as the css ones which worked out to be 60%.What I can do now is shrink the new booster down more but it will be thinner or I can just stretch it vertically down to keep its diameter.What would you recomendI would say just shrink it down don't make them thinner. Not too much, just enough so the nose cones line up like in the picture I posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheech420now Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 I have it working. you want my configs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike-NZ Posted May 21, 2015 Author Share Posted May 21, 2015 (edited) @FlyMeToTheMinimus. It seemed the longer boosters were more appropriate and these are the ones that were asked for so I put them in. Or have I got the wrong ones?Also about the lift, I introduced lifting body to the cargo bay only on the previous update and the update previous to that I scaled up the lift On the wings.I do notice it glides way to easy but at the moment its trial and error mostly relying on your feedback. so now I know I need to scale it backI can upload the 3 cfg's that I will modify the lift on as a seprate download on page 1 tonight if you want to try it for me? Just overwrite yours with the new.Also what would you like done to the boosters? New ones or shorten them as in stretch it shorter or scale it down- - - Updated - - -@cheech. yeah shure. did you modify it to get it going? Edited May 22, 2015 by Mike-NZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raidernick Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 @FlyMeToTheMinimus. It seemed the longer boosters were more appropriate and these are the ones that were asked for so I put them in. Or have I got the wrong ones?They are the SLS 5 segment boosters. The shuttle boosters were 4 segment. No amount of scaling is going to fix it because making the booster shorter disproportionally will not just shorten the "tube" section it will smush the nozzle and bezel also and will look like crap. Do not shrink it, see if the guy who made it has the shuttle booster also or use the original boosters from the old version of the mod, they looked much better than the "new" ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheech420now Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Well i have FSTextureSwitch2 working but im working out an issue with it not working till i reload the database Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike-NZ Posted May 21, 2015 Author Share Posted May 21, 2015 (edited) Ok so here are the options. I will find the origional boosters or if someone can help me find them I would appreciate it. I can include all boosters in the download for the user to choose what one they wantOrI can 'chop off' the top section of the sls5 properly in the model editor so it wont be distorted. It will then just be a 4 sectionOr someone find a good booster somewhere that someone has made and I can add it to this and modify whatever is neededWhat do you guys rekonAlso for now the standard srb can be used for the time being if you dont like it- - - Updated - - -@cheech. It working but its not? You mean it works in other mods but not this one? I did try copying code etc but maybe my firespitter is broke. But atleast for now it works. Except the cargo bay. I want to edit its cfg anyway to make it so kerbals on eva can interact with it Edited May 22, 2015 by Mike-NZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iDisOrder Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 GUYS!?!?I'm gone 24 hours and you create this... this masterpiece???Seriously the work done on this since I last downloaded it is astounding.Great team work guys.It's looking amazing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheech420now Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 (edited) Ok i narrowed down the texture issue to tweakable everything Edited May 22, 2015 by cheech420now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike-NZ Posted May 22, 2015 Author Share Posted May 22, 2015 @ iDisOrder thanks. Yeah it was a productive night for me. More tonight for you guys.@ cheech there was just the one et texture not converted to dds for some reason I needed but forgot why.the textureswitch would not have worked right before anyway because the code was pretty messed up bit now its cleaned up in the latest update so you can change bdtextureswitch to fstextureswitch2 if you want firespitter to take care of it.As for the node sized I can easily do that tonight for you.Also by old boosters do you mean the one I had on my earlier release that is still in the mod or the old old one I havent seen before that was on dragons first release?- - - Updated - - -Also it seems firespitter is buggy. It may be better to use the new plugin I used because we both had issues and so others may do aswell.- - - Updated - - -I dont have tweakable everything but it still didnt work. And I dont think everyone would want to update databases and get rid of tweakable everything if they use it. Once we work out a firespitter workaround or fix we can go back to it. Cool? Thanks for all the research your doing please keep me up to date Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sp1989 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 This is a link to the original download. Im on my phone so I don't know if it works. But it is also wildly out if date. http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/3321-Component-Space-Shuttle-(CSS)-v0-2-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheech420now Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 I was talkin about the old ones that are still in the download. If they were just longer to line up with the decouplers they would be perfect. I have all the firesitter stuff working now. I redid all the FSTextueSwitch 2 configs and edited my tweakable everything and its working so far. Ill post my files when im done but they are from update 4. What all did you change in 5? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sp1989 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 I was talkin about the old ones that are still in the download. If they were just longer to line up with the decouplers they would be perfect. I have all the firesitter stuff working now. I redid all the FSTextueSwitch 2 configs and edited my tweakable everything and its working so far. Ill post my files when im done but they are from update 4. What all did you change in 5?Yea but the ORIGINAL boosters looked like the ones several pages ago. Those are the boosters perfect for the decouplers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheech420now Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 I agree wit sp1989. You should 'chop off' the top section of the sls5 properly in the model editor so it wont be distorted. It will then just be a 4 section.- - - Updated - - -Also the node thing i was talking about if you look at the assembled craft there is a gap between the ET struts and the shuttle connecting it at the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike-NZ Posted May 22, 2015 Author Share Posted May 22, 2015 (edited) @ sp1989. Thanks. I wil get the booster going and put a link on the first page as an addon for anyone who wants to dl it.Hopefully tonight. @cheech would you like me to extend the booster to be a bit taller? In the recent update all part cfgs that had tetextureswitch code was rewrittenSo to get yours going we need to modify tweakable everything and the part cfgs again.About that gap between the et and nose if it was moved closer the bottom of the tank would clip inside the engine pod area. My plan is to stretch those top tank attach arms in the model editor. Will do tontight Edited May 22, 2015 by Mike-NZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sp1989 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 @ sp1989. Thanks. I wil get the booster going and put a link on the first page as an addon for anyone who wants to dl it.Hopefully tonight. @cheech would you like me to extend the booster to be a bit taller? In the recent update all part cfgs that had tetextureswitch code was rewrittenSo to get yours going we need to modify tweakable everything and the part cfgs agaiI know I have made a lot of suggestions. You have in turn, AMAZINGLY done all of them. It's awesome. However at this point to save your time, energy, and efficiency if you decide and dedicate your efforts towards one path. At this point I trust you, and I think you will make the right decision. Honestly if you have to maintain three rhree different boosters and cfg for aerodynamics you're gonna get burnt out. So I recommend picking boosters and dedicating all your efforts at them. Honestly your work on all of them has been stellar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheech420now Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 sounds good to me. If you can get the boosters and ET to line up like in this pic http://thevirtualastronaut.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/STSstack.jpg that would be great. Also i figured out what part of tweakable everything was messing it up. It was the tweakable staging dll. I removed it and its all working great now. Here is my CSS folder for you to look at. I already modified all the part configs that are in Update 4. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/227008324/CSS.zip- - - Updated - - -Now if we can just get the arm working lol- - - Updated - - -Oh and btw there is a huge bug with the launch clamps. Its a KSP bug so we cant fix it but they will reappear during flight and explode your ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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