Guest Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 No lie, 1.0.2 spoiled me. Nuclear engines are just ... boring. Even in RO/RSS I have to worry about hydrogen boil-off. There's no tension waiting to see just how hot they'll get during the burn.Now that the heating has been fixed in stock nukes are just ... boring.Just another engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDJ Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Go into the config files and punch them up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xannari Ferrows Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 It is never just another engine! That Isp is way up there. Only to be used by the patient, for the patient.No legs were broken in the posting of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camaron Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Since when are individual parts the key point of excitement? Your various accomplishments are the excitement! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Booooooooooooooorrrrrriiiiiiinnngggg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xannari Ferrows Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Could you provide an explanation as to it's "boring" aura? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Could you provide an explanation as to it's "boring" aura?See OP, laid out in perfect detail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edax Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Booooooooooooooorrrrrriiiiiiinnngggg.I guess you have no choice now but to attempt a Mun landing using nothing but solid boosters to keep yourself amused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superfluous J Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 And don't even get me STARTED on the octagonal strut. Talk about a snorefest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoojiwana Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 (edited) Could you provide an explanation as to it's "boring" aura?Before we got radiators, you had to think about the design of your rocket if you wanted to use the LV-N. You had to build around the heat the engine put out by adding your own heat-sinks or making an adequately large rocket that the spread of heat and meant the engine itself wouldn't explode. There was more design gameplay, now it's just a matter of adding a part with no thought or clever intent.EDIT: And there was an element of "will-it-won't-it" gameplay in flight, the same thing many people say they like about not having all the information about dV available to them. "Will my flight have enough fuel to return from the Mun?" "Will my engine overheat on this 15 minute burn?". It's the same thing, but seems to be being phased out from the game by the devs. Edited July 25, 2015 by hoojiwana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 I guess you have no choice now but to attempt a Mun landing using nothing but solid boosters to keep yourself amused.No, I just reinstalled RO.#LOLTOYSOLARSYSTEM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xannari Ferrows Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Would you rather have the thermal output higher? In that case, just set the thrust limiter back, and take several hours to make burns. If you ask me, this sounds like an answer to all the complaints about the engine requiring lots of time, which was a "bad" thing.But I suppose the grass is always greener on the other side, eh? What do you do in that case? Set your lawn on fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Would you rather have the thermal output higher? In that case, just set the thrust limiter back, and take several hours to make burns.That makes no sense. The thermal discharge is enough to offset any thermal output at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r4pt0r Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 EDIT: And there was an element of "will-it-won't-it" gameplay in flight, the same thing many people say they like about not having all the information about dV available to them. "Will my flight have enough fuel to return from the Mun?" "Will my engine overheat on this 15 minute burn?". It's the same thing, but seems to be being phased out from the game by the devs.I honestly 100% agree. I love the lack of the dV, makes it exciting. If you want that get a mod, but dont taint the stock game. The guessing keeps it fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xannari Ferrows Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 That makes no sense. The thermal discharge is enough to offset any thermal output at this point.I don't think you got the whole message... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Sierra Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 EDIT: And there was an element of "will-it-won't-it" gameplay in flight, the same thing many people say they like about not having all the information about dV available to them. "Will my flight have enough fuel to return from the Mun?" "Will my engine overheat on this 15 minute burn?". It's the same thing, but seems to be being phased out from the game by the devs.Due to the stock game and my skills in it becoming TDR (too damn reliable), I elected to install Kerbal Launch Failure with a modified, stupidly high failure rate of 1:10. KSP is now genuinely exciting, and terrifying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Due to the stock game and my skills in it becoming TDR (too damn reliable), I elected to install Kerbal Launch Failure with a modified, stupidly high failure rate of 1:10. KSP is now genuinely exciting, and terrifying.Stock was genuinely exciting as well, again. For a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camaron Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Having to manage the volatile resources of a true NERVA, or something along those lines, might legitimately be cool.But honestly, I can't believe there are now people complaining that heat management was more fun when we didn't have the tools to do anything about it. Girders are not heat control, and they're damn ugly when you use them as such.I'm a bit sick of the community, including seasoned veterans, talking as if the game was better off without the newest huge improvements. Nervas are boring because they aren't prone to explode while you aren't looking? Really? Get failure mods if you want your game to be worse.Due to the stock game and my skills in it becoming TDR (too damn reliable),...I take great pride in the fact that I've come to a point where the core game and my skills became TDR. Seeing what I can build and accomplish is the whole game to me. I'm glad to be past the novice phases. Having mildly heavy rockets collapse on themselves despite 700 structural struts in 0.22 was a drag. It was not "exciting". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbacusWizard Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 I honestly 100% agree. I love the lack of the dV, makes it exciting.I don't get it; the information about ∆v is always available in stock. It shows your craft's mass, doesn't it? It shows the engine's I_sp, doesn't it? It shows the amount of fuel remaining, doesn't it? That's ∆v. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Having to manage the volatile resources of a true NERVA, or something along those lines, might legitimately be cool.It was a lot of fun for a time.I'm a bit sick of the community, including seasoned veterans, talking as if the game was better off without the newest huge improvements.The LV-N engine overheating so badly was actually a really new development that came about because of the heating system changes in 1.0.x so it's not like I'm talking ancient history here, thank you very much, and that new mechanic spiced things up in the stock game for me. Haven't had so much fun in stock since 0.21, believe it or not, there was actually some consideration to building a craft again.Having mildly heavy rockets collapse on themselves despite 700 structural struts in 0.22 was a drag. It was not "exciting".I, too, am quite happy that the days of floppy rockets are over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r4pt0r Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 I don't get it; the information about ∆v is always available in stock. It shows your craft's mass, doesn't it? It shows the engine's I_sp, doesn't it? It shows the amount of fuel remaining, doesn't it? That's ∆v.I dont look at mass or do any stupid math, I have fun eyeballing it and seeing if it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superfluous J Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 I don't get it; the information about ∆v is always available in stock. It shows your craft's mass, doesn't it? It shows the engine's I_sp, doesn't it? It shows the amount of fuel remaining, doesn't it? That's ∆v.Not having your rocket's dV but having those other stats would be like not having its mass, but knowing - by element - how many moles of that atom were in each part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost_in_space Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Due to the stock game and my skills in it becoming TDR (too damn reliable), I elected to install Kerbal Launch Failure with a modified, stupidly high failure rate of 1:10. KSP is now genuinely exciting, and terrifying.LOL. This is actually quite realistic, given the Kerbals' propensity to "dumpster-dive" and trigger "unintended ignitions". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edax Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 no, i just reinstalled ro.#loltoysolarsystem#kerbalhipster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luizopiloto Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 (edited) What about Ion?ah yeah... you have to watch electricity/ solar light/ LFO in case you use fuel cells... Ion engine isn't that boring... just take long to burn... Edited July 25, 2015 by luizopiloto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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