Just Jim Posted March 23, 2016 Author Share Posted March 23, 2016 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Jeb! said: (In a KSP sci-fi world anyways) yeah... I figure in Sci-fi, if some dude can survive on Mars using a tarp... I can make a gravioli particle beam generator out of rover... Edited March 23, 2016 by Just Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconiator Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 And now he has the raptor.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Zoom Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Not having a space helmet didn't stop Dave Bowman from making a (very short) EVA, nor dealing decisively with the entity that had control of his ship. Just saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeb! Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 5 hours ago, Just Jim said: yeah... I figure in Sci-fi, if some dude can survive on Mars using a tarp... I can make a gravioli particle beam generator out of rover... Yeah, ... that's a pretty safe statement. One of those two things makes a lot more sense. Spoiler THE SECOND ONE!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jim Posted March 24, 2016 Author Share Posted March 24, 2016 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Draconiator said: And now he has the raptor.... with hostages onboard... 33 minutes ago, Commander Zoom said: Not having a space helmet didn't stop Dave Bowman from making a (very short) EVA, nor dealing decisively with the entity that had control of his ship. Just saying. Oh... I forgot about that one..... I'll have to make sure Thomp doesn't make the same mistake... 25 minutes ago, Jeb! said: Yeah, ... that's a pretty safe statement. One of those two things makes a lot more sense. hehehe, thanks Ya know, I thought about this a little more, and it occurred to me something fascinating has happened here. Perhaps a testament to the beauty of Sci-fi, and it's fans, in general. Here we are discussing the mechanics of how I could turn a Chariot rover into a particle beam emitter... which is fine. But not one person so far has questioned the fact I just bent physics in half and turned it sideways to invent a way to make a wormhole with a gravioli particle beam. hehehe And I love this!!! I totally made up something I hoped would sound halfway reasonable, and everyone apparently took it for granted it would work! The only thing people questioned were the mechanics of the emitter itself...... I think that is beautiful! Edited March 24, 2016 by Just Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Dilsby Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 8 minutes ago, Just Jim said: The only thing people questioned were the mechanics of the emitter itself...... I think that is beautiful! I'm not surprised Remember when Evil Kenlie used the Kerbfleet flag on the side of Evestation for target practice? There were a couple of pages of polite argument on exactly how far he should have recoiled, should he have spun around, whether to figure it out by conservation of momentum or energy, etc, etc, etc... Not one person questioned the BLAM! BLAM BLAM! BLAM! sound effect. Why? Not because anyone would think you could hear gunshots in vacuum--but because I think they all knew that if I'd had a bunch of holes just silently appear it wouldn't have made any sense. It was necessary for the story, as was your emitter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jim Posted March 24, 2016 Author Share Posted March 24, 2016 3 minutes ago, Kuzzter said: I'm not surprised Remember when Evil Kenlie used the Kerbfleet flag on the side of Evestation for target practice? There were a couple of pages of polite argument on exactly how far he should have recoiled, should he have spun around, whether to figure it out by conservation of momentum or energy, etc, etc, etc... Not one person questioned the BLAM! BLAM BLAM! BLAM! sound effect. Why? Not because anyone would think you could hear gunshots in vacuum--but because I think they all knew that if I'd had a bunch of holes just silently appear it wouldn't have made any sense. It was necessary for the story, as was your emitter I do remember that, yes! I got quite a chuckle from reading the back and forth discussions about the recoil. Good point! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketSquid Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Two things: If gravioli detectors work like AM radio receivers, I'm surprised Thompberry was the first to figure it out. Second thing: Don't give me the whole "locked hatches" thing. Living with a younger brother has taught me one thing: If a child wants to get somewhere, they WILL get there if they don't fear the consequences. And since thompberry needs them alive, and cannot punish them without destroying himself and/or killing them, they have no consequences. They will find a way to open the hatch, enter the cockpit, override the controls, and probably blow him up in the meantime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jim Posted March 24, 2016 Author Share Posted March 24, 2016 (edited) 10 minutes ago, RocketSquid said: Two things: If gravioli detectors work like AM radio receivers, I'm surprised Thompberry was the first to figure it out. Second thing: Don't give me the whole "locked hatches" thing. Living with a younger brother has taught me one thing: If a child wants to get somewhere, they WILL get there if they don't fear the consequences. And since thompberry needs them alive, and cannot punish them without destroying himself and/or killing them, they have no consequences. They will find a way to open the hatch, enter the cockpit, override the controls, and probably blow him up in the meantime. OK.... a little spoiler from the next chapter... Thompberry does not need them alive or otherwise for his master plan to work... he just wants to play with them for a while.... Edited March 24, 2016 by Just Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketSquid Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 6 minutes ago, Just Jim said: OK.... a little spoiler from the next chapter... Thompberry does not need them alive or otherwise for his master plan to work... he just wants to play with them for a while.... So he can punish them... or more importantly, he can punish anyone else listening.... he can cut the life-support to the kids cabin and slowly suffocate them, turn the temperature controls off for Kerenna's cockpit and freeze her to death.... all sorts of fun things. And I will tell you right now.... all he has to do is threaten to kill the kids, or their Aunty-K, and prove that he can, and no-one is going to attempt anything. If they know that he's going to kill them anyway, they become more dangerous. He no longer has anything to threaten them with. He could potentially just kill them instantly, but then he slides over the moral event horizon... and we all know what happens when a villain does that. Threatening Kerenna to keep the kid's in line would probably work, but I ask you this: Who designs a ship with life support that TURNS OFF? That's just inviting trouble if you have any clumsy kerbonauts. Although, thompberry has been shown to have far more control over ships than was intended, such as turning the gravioli detector into a gravioli emitter by forcing current through it (I assume). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jim Posted March 24, 2016 Author Share Posted March 24, 2016 (edited) 9 minutes ago, RocketSquid said: Threatening Kerenna to keep the kid's in line would probably work, but I ask you this: Who designs a ship with life support that TURNS OFF? That's just inviting trouble if you have any clumsy kerbonauts. Although, thompberry has been shown to have far more control over ships than was intended, such as turning the gravioli detector into a gravioli emitter by forcing current through it (I assume). You're on the right track... Thompberry is the switch! And the onboard cameras, and the speakers and microphones... and for that matter, he's also the hatches. Remember when he merged with the rover.... he became the rover! It's going to be very, very hard for them to do anything without him noticing, somehow. That's all the spoilers for now... we'll cover this in detail in the next chapter, I promise. Edited March 24, 2016 by Just Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Geschosskopf Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Just Jim said: You're on the right track... Thompberry is the switch! And the onboard cameras, and the speakers and microphones... and for that matter, he's also the hatches. Remember when he merged with the rover.... he became the rover! It's going to be very, very hard for them to do anything without him noticing, somehow. That's all the spoilers for now... we'll cover this in detail in the next chapter, I promise. Well, even assuming the hostages all have their helmets ready to hand, none of the windows in Mk2 parts are big enough for Kerbals to squeeze through even if they break the glass. For that you'd need crash axes and Halligans, which might also prove useful in dissecting Thompberry. If you can't destroy civilization with a Halligan, you're not trying hard enough. Got any such things? Oh wait..... Thompberry would destroy civilization with them, given as he'd be them Edited March 24, 2016 by Geschosskopf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDJ Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Possible intercept with another ship and emit a HUGE EMP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AccidentsHappen Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 If anything happens to Gem or Theo I will stop reading immediately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max_creative Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Fourth wall busting stuff! Have gem and theo say "hey just Jim, can you please hyperedit Thompberry into mount whoopstooshort?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jim Posted March 24, 2016 Author Share Posted March 24, 2016 (edited) 10 hours ago, Geschosskopf said: Well, even assuming the hostages all have their helmets ready to hand, none of the windows in Mk2 parts are big enough for Kerbals to squeeze through even if they break the glass. For that you'd need crash axes and Halligans, which might also prove useful in dissecting Thompberry. If you can't destroy civilization with a Halligan, you're not trying hard enough. Got any such things? Oh wait..... Thompberry would destroy civilization with them, given as he'd be them good point! It never occurred to me how small the windows are... lol. And no, no Halligan on board @Draconiator... I ran out of likes already... but that DOS window was good! Edited March 24, 2016 by Just Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketSquid Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Well, if they do put on their helmets, all they'd have to do is annoy the heck out of thompberry, and then he'd finally decide to open the hatch and get rid of them. Of course, they would then start messing with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jim Posted March 24, 2016 Author Share Posted March 24, 2016 5 minutes ago, RocketSquid said: Well, if they do put on their helmets, all they'd have to do is annoy the heck out of thompberry, and then he'd finally decide to open the hatch and get rid of them. Of course, they would then start messing with him. Hmmmmmm.... now that is an interesting idea.... Who can out-rant who? The evil, insane brain pod, or the twins on a roll??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketSquid Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Just now, Just Jim said: Hmmmmmm.... now that is an interesting idea.... Who can out-rant who? The evil, insane brain pod, or the twins on a roll??? I place my money on the twins... nobody can out-shenanigan a child. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerbart Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 I recently remember seeing a thread here on the forum that revealed that hatches tend to be all mechanical (due to the rather nasty consequences of a software glitch or power failure opening the hatches). Apparently Kerbals design theirs differently! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jim Posted March 24, 2016 Author Share Posted March 24, 2016 7 minutes ago, Kerbart said: I recently remember seeing a thread here on the forum that revealed that hatches tend to be all mechanical (due to the rather nasty consequences of a software glitch or power failure opening the hatches). Apparently Kerbals design theirs differently! Next chapter I can answer this..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Dilsby Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 51 minutes ago, Just Jim said: Hmmmmmm.... now that is an interesting idea.... Who can out-rant who? The evil, insane brain pod, or the twins on a roll??? Well, Thomp did identify himself as their step-dad. Parental figures are always particularly vulnerable to their childrens' shenanigans, and he may be doubly vulnerable due to being a cyborg. My kerbucks are on the twins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alchemist Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 There's only one kind of logic even less comprehendible than that of an evil genius. And potentially even more destructive when laying hands on his equipment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max_creative Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 He a brain-pod. Throw snacks at him! Or be noisy whiny kids and eventually he going to let them out. Then hit him with rocks and kick and scream and throw more snacks at him. For snacks! For very annoyed Thompberry! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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