EVA to Orbit Challenge

[RA3236]

After crashing on the Mun, Bill went to see if he could EVA to orbit. And he did!!!

Rules:

1. All planets are allowed except for gas giants and Gilly. Atmospheric Planets are fine and good for attempting to get nowhere IMO.
2. You must reach orbit from the surface without cheating with only the Kerbal., and then attempt (but don't have to succeed ) rescue the kerbal with a brand new craft without cheating. (In my example the Kerbal crashed into the Mun with the rescue.)
3. No mods that alter physics allowed. 

Scoring:

The points modifier is as follows:

g'sASL³ x (PE+AP) rounded to nearest digit. (give me something better if you want  )

This means that I got 72902 89 points.

(gs-ASL is the brackets in: 

Surface gravity

1.69 m/s2 (0.172 g)

in this case 0.172g for Eeloo

My attempt:

Leaderboard:

Mun:

1. RA3236 - 89 points

Minmus:

1. @zarakon - 5045 points, bonus because of a double escape.

Ike:

1. .

Dres:

1. .

Pol:

1. .

Bop:

1. .

Eeloo:

1. Nefrums, 274p and also added this leaderboard to the OP!!!

Other planets (username, planet and approximate delta v to reach orbit. I'll check this:

1.  

Special mentions:

@Chemp

for his amazing Kerbal-powered rocket that sadly broke the rules of only having one part (kerbalEVA).

And a badge for those guys who like badges:

Good luck!!!

Edited February 6, 2016 by RA3236
Added badge.

[Nefrums]

5 hours ago, RA3236 said:

5.00-remaining EVA propellent x g'sASL x PE x AP/1000 (give me something better if you want  )

g'sASL^3 x (PE + AP)/1000

Remove the remaining EVA propellant as a factor as remaining fuel can be used to increase PE/AP, sum AP and PE, and increase the weight of the G.

 

 

 

Edited February 3, 2016 by Nefrums

[Chemp]

First off, your challenge - your rules. But out of curiosity (and with an evil plan in mind): is there a reason you ruled out atmospheric planets?

 

[RA3236]

1 hour ago, Chemp said:

First off, your challenge - your rules. But out of curiosity (and with an evil plan in mind): is there a reason you ruled out atmospheric planets?

 

Usually atmospheric planets have gravity and need more than the delta v of a jet pack and a RT-10 'Hammer' SRB. I'll change them so that you can try if you want, but I think it'll be a pretty lousy attempt.

[RA3236]

Oh and @Nefrums good idea, and I added separate leaderboards in the OP for each planet with less than 600m/s deltav required to get to orbit according to a delta v map. Tell me if I missed one or something  

[Nefrums]

Why do moons when you can do planets?     261p from Eeloo!

 

 

I also made a small test of how much dV you can get out of the EVA Propellant.  I got 634,3 m/s

 

Edited February 3, 2016 by Nefrums

[RA3236]

9 hours ago, Nefrums said:

Why do moons when you can do planets?     261p from Eeloo!

I also made a small test of how much dV you can get out of the EVA Propellant.  I got 634,3 m/s

 

Hmm. Not bad. 274 points though, unless I'm mistaken. Good job, added new leaderboard to OP.

[Nefrums]

yes.   somehow i managed to use 0,169 as g... 

Surface gravity

1.69 m/s2 (0.172 g)

 

[wissx]

Are we allowed to have infanite fuel?

[RA3236]

13 hours ago, wissx said:

Are we allowed to have infanite fuel?

No - in my install infinite fuel can affect everything.

[Evanitis]

On 2016. 02. 03. at 8:45 AM, RA3236 said:

Badge Wanted!!!

Made a quick one for ya if that suffices:

[RA3236]

5 minutes ago, Evanitis said:

Made a quick one for ya if that suffices:

That was really quick! I was wondering if you'd be the one to do it. Thanks!

Edited February 5, 2016 by RA3236

[Evanitis]

Got too much free time these days.

BTW - made a version scaled down to the size of the original K-Prize badge. The current forum has a very neat rescale function (ctrl+right click), but many doesn't know about that.

[wissx]

Time to hper edit myself into the Mun and lests see what heppens

 

[Daeridanii]

A question. Can we use planets from mods, or do they have to be stock?

[zarakon]

0.005^3 * (19,210,500 + 13,147,500) = 4045  

 

If you're going to ban Gilly for the ability to escape orbit, then Minmus, Pol, Bop, and maybe even Ike should probably get the same treatment.  Of course then that only leaves Mun, Dres, and Eeloo as possible locations...

Edited February 5, 2016 by zarakon

[Chemp]

Well, I told you I had an evil plan. Here it is: To orbit from KSC, no engines, no rotors, nada. Just a Kerbal carrying a little construct with a ladder to space.

Body: Kerbin (1g); AP: 132700m; PE: 80500m 

1g³ * (132700+80500)=213200

I admit I made a very loose interpretation of your rules, but, but, but...

Feel free to disqualify my entry for making my Kerbals slave on a treadmill

[RA3236]

3 hours ago, wissx said:

Time to hper edit myself into the Mun and lests see what heppens

 

No... 

Quote

1. You must reach orbit from the surface without cheating, and then attempt (but don't have to succeed ) rescue the kerbal with a brand new craft without cheating. (In my example the Kerbal crashed into the Mun with the rescue.)

2 hours ago, Daeridanii said:

A question. Can we use planets from mods, or do they have to be stock?

You'll have to give me the planets name, planet pack and gsASL, as well as the highest point on the planet for reference.

2 hours ago, zarakon said:

0.005^3 * (19,210,500 + 13,147,500) = 4045  

 

If you're going to ban Gilly for the ability to escape orbit, then Minmus, Pol, Bop, and maybe even Ike should probably get the same treatment.  Of course then that only leaves Mun, Dres, and Eeloo as possible locations...

What the!!! Escape velocity from Kerbin, meaning 4045 plus 1000 for double escape. That's 5045.

1 hour ago, Chemp said:

Well, I told you I had an evil plan. Here it is: To orbit from KSC, no engines, no rotors, nada. Just a Kerbal carrying a little construct with a ladder to space.

 

Body: Kerbin (1g); AP: 132700m; PE: 80500m 

1g³ * (132700+80500)=213200

I admit I made a very loose interpretation of your rules, but, but, but...

Feel free to disqualify my entry for making my Kerbals slave on a treadmill

You'll get a special mention on the leaderboards. I really need to know how people do that...

[Chemp]

11 hours ago, RA3236 said:

I really need to know how people do that...

Check out @Geschosskopf's thread here. That was what got me into it in the first place. It's a beautiful glitch, I hope Squad doesn't fix it.

[Geschosskopf]

11 hours ago, RA3236 said:

I really need to know how people do that...

It works like this......

In KSP,the animations of Kerbals are irresistible forces.  if the active Kerbal and any non-terrain object (a ship/base/rover or other Kerbal) would occupy the same volume of space, the game gives priority to the active Kerbal, and he will push everything else out of his way to do the full range of motion of his animation.  This can lead to disaster if your Kerbal somehow falls down and slides under your base, and the base doesn't have enough ground clearance for the Kerbal to stand up.  If you stand the Kerbal up anyway, he will stand to his full height, catapulting the base into the air, no matter how heavy it is.

However, this effect can be used as a form of propulsion.  The most common method is to build something with a short ladder on it aligned with the desired direction of travel, and with some sort of walls blocking the ends of the ladder.  Thus, when the Kerbal climbs the ladder, his animation makes either his head or is feet collide with and push against one of the walls at an end of the ladder.  The animating Kerbal pushes the wall out of his way.  Because the wall is connected to the ladder, the ladder is dragged along with the wall.  Because the Kerbal is on the ladder, he's carried along as well.  And if you continue making the Kerbal climb the ladder, the Kerbal continues pushing against the wall, resulting in a continuous application of force and thus acceleration.

Various things limit the utility of exploiting this, however.  The force applied by the Kerbal is proportional to the speed he moves during the animation.  Fallen Kerbals leap to their feet so can toss heavy bases around no problem.  However, Kerbals move slowly on ladders, and once the ladder-powered craft is moving in the same direction, the net force applied per collision by the Kerbal becomes lower and lower.  As a result, ladder-powered vehicles have to be pretty small and light, especially if you want to fly vs. rove or boat.  So you can't build a viable space program around this exploit, but you can make handy little personal recreation vehicles, roughly analogous to kayaks, bicycles, and ultra-light aircraft.

[wissx]

I cant manage to land on the mun but maybee I could use some sort of pod that goes up from it and I eject from it at around 4.5K meters

[RA3236]

2 hours ago, wissx said:

I cant manage to land on the mun but maybee I could use some sort of pod that goes up from it and I eject from it at around 4.5K meters

Or... Start at the poles where it is pretty high.

@Chemp and @Geschosskopf thanks for the info!