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Why people need license to pilot FPV drone


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11 hours ago, Halo_003 said:

No worries, sorry if that came off harshly, it's just one of my earliest memories and I take it very seriously.

I wonder whether I'm doing sometimes inappropriate jokes, it is due to my Asperger's, or I'm just boor :(

And by the way, I wonder whether mild Asperger syndrome is an obstacle to obtaining a medical examination for a pilot's license, or even a medical examination for a certificate of qualification of operator(pilot) of a large model RC / UAV Drone :D

 

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One other thing that needs to be mentioned is, these things can fail, and sometimes they do. Radios can glitch, receivers can have brownouts, or blackouts, wires come loose, screws unscrew themselves, parts break, and this can happen to any pilot no matter the skills.

There are just too many things that can go wrong that you have little or no control over, to be careless about where and how you fly. The importance of maintenance is not something every pilot gives much though. Not everyone have the patience to do a pre-flight check or they think themselves immune to disasters so why bother with the boring bits?

One reason to keep this in mind is, while rc flying used to be a hobby for a very few who were nerdy enough, stubborn enough, who often had to make parts themselves, learning the ins and outs of their models, today is very different. Now you can pick up a flying toy almost at every gas station or near get one with your happy meal. The models are advertised as toys and as toys they are harmless, right? Toys are for kids and noone would make a toy that can harm anyone, right? We assume these things will just keep working because, well, they're toys and we paid good money for them so we pretty much demand they work.

Problem then, when in reality Murphy's Law is never far away in this hobby. Beside, many don't see much difference in a 30cm wingspan foamie and a 5+ kg model. One anyone can pick up and start flying around and if it crashes into you, you'll most likely shout yikes, then laugh and carry on flying, one demands a whole different level of respect for what it is.

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2 minutes ago, Pawelk198604 said:

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And by the way, I wonder whether mild Asperger syndrome is an obstacle to obtaining a medical examination for a pilot's license, or even a medical examination for a certificate of qualification of operator(pilot) of a large model RC / UAV Drone :D

 

I hate to repeat myself but I am going to do it anyway:

On 17-2-2016 at 3:25 PM, Tex_NL said:

That is something for your physician to decide. I (and most likely everybody else here) have no idea how strict the laws are in Poland. Ask your doctor, ask the police, ask those giving out licenses. They are the ones that know.

 

 

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44 minutes ago, Pawelk198604 said:

I wonder does adult can start with RC modeling?  Or does it look childish?

That looked for the most part to be a bunch of old dudes in the video. Should be fine regardless of age, but for RC planes that big I'm pretty sure it would take some sort of license.

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RC flying is very much a hobby for people of all ages. 2-90+. Guys and girls.

It started as a hobby strictly for adults (as there were no kits or anything like that so if you wanted a model, you'd have to build it yourself from scratch) but the last 30 years or so younger and younger people are taking it up as models and kits have become fairly cheap and reliable, not to mention accessable.

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On 18.2.2016 at 5:09 PM, LN400 said:

One reason to keep this in mind is, while rc flying used to be a hobby for a very few who were nerdy enough, stubborn enough, who often had to make parts themselves, learning the ins and outs of their models, today is very different. Now you can pick up a flying toy almost at every gas station or near get one with your happy meal.

Exactly !

We sawed out, laminated, filed, glued, weighed out, ran the new engines, soldered wires, rods and levers, mixed fuels, arranged RC-components, went on the field and came back with an armful of scrap lamenting. Doing damage wasn't that easy, and it did hurt.

Even many of today's models are mostly "RTF" (ready to fly) ... doing damage has become very easy.

 

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The reason for it is that people have done some really reckless and stupid things with drones. People got fed up and decided that the government should be able to track down who is responsible for a drone when it's recovered.

This is why we can't have nice things...

 

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Just read that a passenger airplane collided with a drone when landing at heathrow airport. The plane landed without damage.

What do you think, how long will it take until something terrible happens with a drone, be it ignorant fool or coolblooded assasin ?

 

You still can have nice things, but they cost knowledge, training, handicraft (and an open field somewhere out there) :-)

 

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Maybe a bit tangental, but quarter-scale models are important for practical effects. If I recall rightly, quarter scale is the smallest you can go while still having fire/explosions look correct on film.

So in some instances (maybe not nowadays as much), you'd have a quarter scale model specifically to destroy it.

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We are that far:

Because of a few anti-social contemporaries german law concerning radio controlled hobby (and this has a long tradition !) is about being reworked and not towards more liberalism. To everyone who refuses to see: stick to your smartphones and computer games, keep your hands off things too complicated for your minds !

I'm aware of getting a rule reminder soon, but i just needed to vent.

 

 

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On 2/16/2016 at 3:06 PM, Pawelk198604 said:

I read that in case of Poland anyone who want fly FPV model over over 25 kg, need obtain licence from ULC Urząd Lotnictwa Cywilnego, it our Polish equivalent of American FAA, and need to pass medical test for FPV drone.

Anyone can pilot small RC plane but the big one need this special license. I think it's RIDICULOUS, why anyone need medical to pilot  RC model :D I understand plane or glider but unnamed model???  

RC pilots have to have skill generally take their hobby seriously and the planes are very expensive and unless you are under the glide path of a airport are generally out of danger range.]

Any fool with 200 buck can go out an by a four propeller drone and fly it right out the box into the engine of a commercial aircraft. And more importantly people have done stupid things with their drones, alot more than those who have stupid things with their drones. The perfect solution for drones is a 12 gauge with game load replaced by table sugar.

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UK lets you fly up to 7.5kg and in the case of fixed-wing, up to a 3 metre wingspan. There's other stipulations such as distance from airports and public rights of way, and there's an altitude limit of 400ft unless it's in designated airspace. For larger models as I recall, you can get a license that covers the specific model you're flying.

Honestly even within those constraints, you wouldn't want to hit someone at the speeds even a .50, .60 cubic inch or so glowplug engine can get a racing airframe up to. At 25KG? You could probably send something through a roof if it just dropped like a drone out of power.

Also a reason why the whole "I'll just shoot it down" thing is not the best idea. They're not pigeons.

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IMHO the limit should also be on height. Something like a thousand feet perhaps ? Because at that point airplanes will also fly around.

Today, the case for drones is like the case for green lasers back then (until now). The degree of official regulations really depends on how officials look at the problem - which depends on "public" view, and most of the time, is the result of existing users. If you don't want yourself be limited by someone else then be smart and limit yourself.

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On 2/20/2016 at 6:23 PM, GoSlash27 said:

The reason for it is that people have done some really reckless and stupid things with drones. People got fed up and decided that the government should be able to track down who is responsible for a drone when it's recovered.

This is why we can't have nice things...

 

In addition, a pilot's license is a wonderful thing to take away if somebody behaves irresponsible, and it cuts through a lot of "I didn't realize that wasn't allowed" BS as well (not that it's ever a solid defense but all things help).

As Slashy says, there's always the few “nothing says that I cannot do this” idiots who have to wreck it for the 95% who do use common sense.

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