Airlock Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Well there's your problem! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlonioFludrasco Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrandedonEarth Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Sounds like they totally kerballed the landing. They need SpiderMan on deck to lash it down when it lands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceXray Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Well like the say, 3rd time is a charm. Next time it'll work 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralathon Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Sounds like they totally kerballed the landing. They need SpiderMan on deck to lash it down when it landsThey need to cover the surface of the barge with superglue, that way the stage can't tip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cirocco Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 hang on, hang on... Musk did say that the landing went just fine. So the touchdown was a soft one. It just toppled over after that....that sounds like process tweaking to me. This is proof that the technology itself works! Cause enough for celebration to me, break out the drinks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Yellow Dart Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 They need to cover the surface of the barge with superglue, that way the stage can't tip.I was thinking electromagnetic footpads that activate for an second or 2(to lower power requirements) on touchdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaDog Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Well, jokes aside, I can think of ways of saving partial landings. Such as spiked legs and landing on thick rubber carpet. Perhaps the idea is that a landing that needs support like that is failed anyways due to stresses it might put on the rocket, I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerbal01 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 They should say "dragon has wings" when the solar panels deploy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceXray Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Well, jokes aside, I can think of ways of saving partial landings. Such as spiked legs and landing on thick rubber carpet. Perhaps the idea is that a landing that needs support like that is failed anyways due to stresses it might put on the rocket, I don't know.rubber melts under rocket exhaust fyi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deutherius Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I was thinking electromagnetic footpads that activate for an second or 2(to lower power requirements) on touchdown.Or maybe some verniers in the upper part of the first stage to help with the torque (assuming they could be powerful enough to overcome the forces)?Or both? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robotengineer Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Or, have small SRB's fire when landing to settle the rocket after landing, like the LK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugix Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 this is the fun thing that when the landing goes wrong, it isn't a disaster. The last orbcom was a disaster, when the first stage landing is botched we get a cool video of a Rapid unplanned disasembly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzy Dunlop Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 They should say "dragon has wings" when the solar panels deploy.They do... it's actually on my list of annoying NASA TV cliches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaDog Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 (edited) rubber melts under rocket exhaust fyi.Just thin steel plate then. Or just a steel grid which the legs clip into. Really, there are so many simple ways to do this... Edited April 14, 2015 by SeaDog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip336 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Why don;t they use sort of like harpoons, like they do with helicopters that land on navy ships? The moment a leg feels pressure, a harpoon on the other side of the rocket secures the falcon to the ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motokid600 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Well for starters they just gotta time that burn better. Question. What is the point of the barge other then proof of concept? The ultimate idea is to have these stages boost back to land. So after that the barge is for the F9H core, yes?Didn't Elon say himself "your hauling way too much ass" in order to retrieve that core stage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dkmdlb Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Didn't Elon say himself "your hauling way too much ass" in order to retrieve that core stage?He said:Yes, the Falcon Heavy center core is seriously hauling a** at stage separation. We can bring it back to the launch site, but the boost back penalty is significant. If we also have to the plane change for geo missions from Cape inclination (28.5 deg) to equatorial, then a downrange platform landing is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelLestat Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdad84 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Wonder what would ever happen if one of the landing legs popped open during ascent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frybert Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Wonder what would ever happen if one of the landing legs popped open during ascent?Nothing good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technical Ben Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 While not ideal, I could see there being multiple options. Unless it's impossible to steady on those legs. If it is just landing momentum that toppled it, they could have some small stability system. No idea if RCS/SAS is an option to them. But it will probably be adapted in the landing computer and control systems and use their existing hardware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deutherius Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Wonder what would ever happen if one of the landing legs popped open during ascent?That largely depends on when it would happen and how the flight computer would deal with it (I would assume they have some routines programmed just for this). Maybe the Merlin cluster's gimbal would be enough? Maybe one engine could throttle/shutdown to compensate for the drag? Maybe the legs could get jettisoned, preventing the barge landing but also a complete failure?Or maybe it would just tear the rocket apart. *shrug* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketPilot573 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Or maybe some verniers in the upper part of the first stage to help with the torque (assuming they could be powerful enough to overcome the forces)?Or both?This is what I was thinking. And last I checked there ARE rcs thrusters on the top (for turning the booster around after sep). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airlock Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Hey, we hit page 100 and nobody said anything! Also, updated OP with new dates, links, images, video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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