New Star Trek Beyond trailer.

[daniel l.]

 

For some reason its unlisted on YouTube. But OMG the explosions, They have finally found Jeb's secret formula.

 

And is that an NX i see at the end?!?!?!? IT BETTER BE!

[PB666]

At 1:36 it looks like a narn from babylon V. 

[m4v]

So they trash the Enterprise again.

[Andem]

When will they bring the borg back?

[Kerbalstar]

39 minutes ago, Andem said:

When will they bring the borg back?

I was wondering that to.

[Spaceception]

I really like the warp drive effects.

[daniel l.]

17 minutes ago, Spaceception said:

I really like the warp drive effects.

Honestly i am not a trek fan. But this movie is gonna be so damn awesome.

[Spaceception]

Just now, daniel l. said:

Honestly i am not a trek fan. But this movie is gonna be so damn awesome.

I'm a Trek fan, in fact the reboots made me watch the TV series', before that, I only watched Star wars. And my favorite series', is, Next gen, Enterprise, and Voyager.

[daniel l.]

1 minute ago, Spaceception said:

I'm a Trek fan, in fact the reboots made me watch the TV series', before that, I only watched Star wars. And my favorite series', is, Next gen, Enterprise, and Voyager.

Good to know. I personally like BSG but that show ended a couple years ago.

[blorgon]

Warp drive looked awesome.

I was a TNG kid, and honestly I am really not happy about all the goddamn action. The movies are fun enough, but they're not Star Trek. They just aren't.

I'll watch it, but I was really hoping after the last one that they'd start doing more of what made the show great—exploration. I'm so sick of space battles and massive explosions and city-leveling destruction.

6 minutes ago, daniel l. said:

Good to know. I personally like BSG but that show ended a couple years ago.

Such an awesome show. It got a little too soapy for me at times, but was worth it.

[daniel l.]

Just now, blorgon said:

Warp drive looked awesome.

I was a TNG kid, and honestly I am really not happy about all the goddamn action. The movies are fun enough, but they're not Star Trek. They just aren't.

I'll watch it, but I was really hoping after the last one that they'd start doing more of what made the show great—exploration. I'm so sick of space battles and massive explosions and city-leveling destruction.

If you look at all the movies you may notice that they generally use the movies as basically a super long episode with a lot of action. The Series's have always been the stuff that ST focuses on.

[blorgon]

5 minutes ago, daniel l. said:

If you look at all the movies you may notice that they generally use the movies as basically a super long episode with a lot of action. The Series's have always been the stuff that ST focuses on.

Eh. My gripe is that the action stuff gets the big budget and the shows generally have the poor production values. That said, I never really watched Voyager, and I know nothing about the upcoming series on CBS (although it being on CBS is pretty troubling).

[daniel l.]

Just now, blorgon said:

Eh. My gripe is that the action stuff gets the big budget and the shows generally have the poor production values. That said, I never really watched Voyager, and I know nothing about the upcoming series on CBS (although it being on CBS is pretty troubling).

My Favorite series was Enterprise, It kinda reminded me of BSG, I like realistic spacecraft and reasonable interiors.

[Vanamonde]

This action movie drivel with the buffoonish characters they've been making lately is not Star Trek. 

[daniel l.]

Just now, Vanamonde said:

This action movie drivel with the buffoonish characters they've been making lately is not Star Trek. 

Well. The Movies have always been action movies. Look as far back as Wrath of Khan. Not quite the moral high ground discussions used by the show's. A new series is coming soon, So be ready for that.

[Vanamonde]

No. 

[daniel l.]

Just now, Vanamonde said:

No. 

I have to ask why you are angry here....

[Starwaster]

Just now, daniel l. said:

I have to ask why you are angry here....

Something something Jar Jar Abrams something something screwing up childhood institutions

[daniel l.]

1 minute ago, Starwaster said:

Something something Jar Jar Abrams something something screwing up childhood institutions

Ummm. Have my fellow KSP players ever wondered why the ships never flew in circles because of their misplaced engines?

[Vanamonde]

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I have to ask why you are angry here... 

Because somebody took one of the more intelligent tv/movie bits of science fiction* and turned it into dippy action movies full of buffoonish characters. 

 

*Elitism note: tv/movie SF is vastly less sophisticated than written SF. Not saying old Trek was the best thing ever, but certainly superior by tv/movie standards. 

[daniel l.]

Just now, Vanamonde said:

Because somebody took one of the more intelligent tv/movie bits of science fiction* and turned it into dippy action movies full of buffoonish characters. 

 

*Elitism note: tv/movie SF is vastly less sophisticated than written SF. Not saying old Trek was the best thing ever, but certainly superior by tv/movie standards. 

I would say that the action is all that keeps it alive. The Engines are misplaced meaning the ships would cartweel IRL and the last few series have had to use Sexually attractive women to gain viewers.

[Starwaster]

I'm looking forward more to Axanar than ST: Beyond

And I will say this for JJ Abrams & Justin Lin: They both stood up for Axanar. Hell I dunno, maybe they even had something to do with the lawsuit being dropped.

[PB666]

1 hour ago, daniel l. said:

Well. The Movies have always been action movies. Look as far back as Wrath of Khan. Not quite the moral high ground discussions used by the show's. A new series is coming soon, So be ready for that.

Wrath of khan had alot of drama, it had a plot, well developed from the original series, i believe space seed, It was the peak of the trek franchise, enterprise was good but the plot came off as somewhat weaker. 

The more recent films are alot more flashy effects than good drama, but this has pretty mich been the case for sci-fi since terminator II. With CGI is just easier to ask a bunch of geeks to CGI and you dont have tonfiddle with writers or actors. 

Nimoy rules, it would be difficult to find someone to replace him. 

Edited May 22, 2016 by PB666

[daniel l.]

Just now, PB666 said:

Wrath of khan had alot of drama, it had a plot, well developed from the original series, i believe space seed, It was the peak of the trek franchise, enterprise was good but the plot came off as somewhat weaker. 

The more recent films are alot more flashy effects than good drama, but this has pretty mich been the case for sci-fi since terminator II. With CGI is just easier to ask a bunch of geeks to CGI and you dont have tonfiddle with writers or actors. 

Honestly the Plot was always kinda silly. Especially because of the wide range of series. No franchise should last longer than 10 years because if you look at the Original series, You will notice the use of CRT's and Oscilloscopes and a 60's style of behavior with women wearing skirts and odd bleeping sounds in the background. While the 24th century reflected the 80s-90s and 22nd the 2000s. Notice the discrepancies here? 22nd century uses LCD displays and 23rd uses CRT's? What the hell? And the 24th is Touchscreen panels?

[PB666]

8 hours ago, daniel l. said:

Honestly the Plot was always kinda silly. Especially because of the wide range of series. No franchise should last longer than 10 years because if you look at the Original series, You will notice the use of CRT's and Oscilloscopes and a 60's style of behavior with women wearing skirts and odd bleeping sounds in the background. While the 24th century reflected the 80s-90s and 22nd the 2000s. Notice the discrepancies here? 22nd century uses LCD displays and 23rd uses CRT's? What the hell? And the 24th is Touchscreen panels?

There was a progression of TV space dramas, remember "lost in space". Star trek begins with mostly blinking lights, the crts are mostly in concealed viewers. This was because the earlier generation of computers were punch card based and used printouts or light displays. By 1972 you were beginning to see a revolution in the way humans interacted with computers. People saw the old star trek blinking light stuff as dorkish. 

I liked those 60s style skirts, impractical as they were. But I must say, the attire and demeanor of the guest actors and actresses was very hollywood, they did not act outside of the hollywood box. There was a certain inflexibility in the 60s. 

The outlyer in the set was the first movie, but it basically followed the themes of previous shows, it was like an elongated episode. The wrath of khan starts with one of the themes but quickly turns into a saga, the struggle of kirk with various elements of his past (lose ends, alpha cetis 5, and love interest marcus), it reaches a peak when his side kick is lost in the struggle, his ship is virtually destroyed and creates the epic, and this takes them into the next 2 movies. So they basically left the TV series behind and used one story line to create a series of interwoven plots.