[Minimum KSP version - 1.11] Kerbal Attachment System (KAS) v1.12

[PhoenixStar117]

25 minutes ago, IgorZ said:

Sounds like a mods conflict. Please, share the game log.

I'm not sure if the Logs reset with each restart of the game, as I did so several times, so these might not be the ones you need.

If they've been reset, I can reload the craft having the issues and do it again.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/kn9vcenv4sbtive/LOGS.zip

Also, here is a picture of my mod folder -and all the mods in it

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[IgorZ]

3 hours ago, PhoenixStar117 said:

I'm not sure if the Logs reset with each restart of the game, as I did so several times, so these might not be the ones you need.

If they've been reset, I can reload the craft having the issues and do it again.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/kn9vcenv4sbtive/LOGS.zip

Also, here is a picture of my mod folder -and all the mods in it

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I haven't found any errors in the log. Alas, there is too much noise in it to do more investigation. Could you please record a log specifically for the issue reproduction? And yes, this log file is overwritten in each game start.

[SimonSyz]

I'm trying to attach a magnet or harpoon to the wintch (RW 50) in space but it is always attached upside down to the winch and it is not possible to rotate the part. what am I doing wrong?

https://picload.org/view/drpraaor/screenshot3.gif.html

https://picload.org/view/drpraaoa/screenshot4.gif.html

Edited December 9, 2017 by SimonSyz

[IgorZ]

11 hours ago, SimonSyz said:

I'm trying to attach a magnet or harpoon to the wintch (RW 50) in space but it is always attached upside down to the winch and it is not possible to rotate the part. what am I doing wrong?

https://picload.org/view/drpraaor/screenshot3.gif.html

https://picload.org/view/drpraaoa/screenshot4.gif.html

Thank you for the report! I've created a bug. Should be fixed in the next version.

[Warrigal]

Is there any chance of KAS and KIS being re-licensed under the GPL v3 in the future? Out of all my favorite mods (FAR, KER, kOS, MSI IR, and KAS/KIS), KAS and KIS are the only ones that aren't licensed under the GPL v3. 

[IgorZ]

5 hours ago, Warrigal said:

Is there any chance of KAS and KIS being re-licensed under the GPL v3 in the future? Out of all my favorite mods (FAR, KER, kOS, MSI IR, and KAS/KIS), KAS and KIS are the only ones that aren't licensed under the GPL v3. 

KAS 1.0 is licensed under "Public domain" which should cover all your needs  The old KAS is not going to be re-licensed, it's going to be deprecated. As for KIS, the plans are not clear for now. Most likely it will be completely refactored under "Public domain".

[NermNermNerm]

I've lately been using a combination of "CG1 Ground Pylon" and winches as a means to drag base parts around and position them for assembly.  This has worked decently well elsewhere in the solar system, but on Eve, I'm having no joy because Ground Pylon gets ripped away from the ground by the force of the winch.  I tried enabling the "Unbreakable Joints" cheat, but nope.  Still get ripped out.

[IgorZ]

42 minutes ago, NermNermNerm said:

I've lately been using a combination of "CG1 Ground Pylon" and winches as a means to drag base parts around and position them for assembly.  This has worked decently well elsewhere in the solar system, but on Eve, I'm having no joy because Ground Pylon gets ripped away from the ground by the force of the winch.  I tried enabling the "Unbreakable Joints" cheat, but nope.  Still get ripped out.

The cheat only works with the stock joints, and the pylon is attached by a custom KAS joint. Try increasing staticAttachBreakForce setting for the pylon part. However, I can't tell what is so specific about Eve. If you make a save file on the pristine game (no other mods except KIS, KAS and MM) on which I could reproduce the issue, I would try debugging it.

[NermNermNerm]

Yup, werkz.  I changed the GameData\KIS\Parts\concreteBase1\part.cfg's staticAttachBreakForce from 200 to 2000 and they're staying stuck in the ground now.

As to why Eve, it's because everything's heavier on Eve and thus the forces on the winch are bigger.

I'm not at all sure that 2000kn is a good number for the strength of the attachment, but I don't think 200 strikes the right balance - it's the same as for the lower-mass ground pylon.  You should get a little more for the extra mass.

[happliy]

@IgorZ Why not release the source code? This makes MOD easier to localize.

[IgorZ]

13 minutes ago, happliy said:

@IgorZ Why not release the source code? This makes MOD easier to localize.

Have you checked the OP for the source link?

[Targoesh]

Got a small problem with using winches attached to anything. When I hit eject, it moves out a fraction of a meter and stops, the length gets set to max in the ui as if it has ejected its whole run, if I hit plug mode it to change it to undocked it moves a fraction more and then the length resets to less then a meter of extension on the ui. I can hit release and it extend normal then, but if I retract it all the way back into the winch it resets it, so it behaves the same way again, with eject not working.

What am I doing wrong here? Is there something I'm missing?

 

Imgur link for details : https://imgur.com/a/zFjsQ

[IgorZ]

2 hours ago, Targoesh said:

Got a small problem with using winches attached to anything. When I hit eject, it moves out a fraction of a meter and stops, the length gets set to max in the ui as if it has ejected its whole run, if I hit plug mode it to change it to undocked it moves a fraction more and then the length resets to less then a meter of extension on the ui. I can hit release and it extend normal then, but if I retract it all the way back into the winch it resets it, so it behaves the same way again, with eject not working.

What am I doing wrong here? Is there something I'm missing?

 

Imgur link for details : https://imgur.com/a/zFjsQ

Can you reproduce the problem on a pristine game (no other mods except KIS&KAS)? What you describe looks like a conflict with some joint reinforcement mod. One of the ways to check it is deploying the craft without the harpoon attached. If the conflicting mod only kicks in on the vessel load, it may help. However, if it properly handles the coupling events, the workaround won't help.

[wartime]

Is that any way to control winch directly from connected kerbal? I found some hotkeys in manual but no one of them works in eva.

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Edited December 27, 2017 by wartime

[IgorZ]

1 hour ago, wartime said:

Is that any way to control winch directly from connected kerbal? I found some hotkeys in manual but no one of them works in eva.

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The keyboard shortcuts only work for a winch that belongs to the active vessel. Since kerbal doesn't own any winch, the shortcuts don't work. You need to switch to the vessel with the winch in order to make them working. Alternatively, press "P" (the default key) to bring up a GUI which lets controlling any winch in the scene.

Edited December 27, 2017 by IgorZ

[fourfa]

Throw a command chair on or near the winch?

[Tyko]

On 12/22/2017 at 4:24 PM, IgorZ said:

Can you reproduce the problem on a pristine game (no other mods except KIS&KAS)? What you describe looks like a conflict with some joint reinforcement mod. One of the ways to check it is deploying the craft without the harpoon attached. If the conflicting mod only kicks in on the vessel load, it may help. However, if it properly handles the coupling events, the workaround won't help.

@Targoesh I had the same problem. It turned out to be an issue with auto-strutting. I had a mod that automatically auto-struts the whole craft. The Harpoons were being auto-strutted to the craft and this prevented them from ejecting. Turning off auto-strut on the harpoons solved the problem

Thanks @IgorZ, your suggestion that it was a joint reinforcement issue led me to think of trying auto-strut   

Edited December 31, 2017 by Tyko

[Antstar]

So, I want to make almost exactly the crane that is on page 1. I mean I have better-than-stock girders, but otherwise it looks great. Except, how the heck can I make said crane stable to the ground and yet able to rotate??? (And please do not suggest IR, I have tried and do not like this mod). I have this and 1.0 Beta installed. Thanks ppl

[Freshmeat]

4 hours ago, Antstar said:

So, I want to make almost exactly the crane that is on page 1. I mean I have better-than-stock girders, but otherwise it looks great. Except, how the heck can I make said crane stable to the ground and yet able to rotate??? (And please do not suggest IR, I have tried and do not like this mod). I have this and 1.0 Beta installed. Thanks ppl

I am afraid that will be quite difficult. Search for threads on "stock bearings" to see how clever people have managed to do it.

[Tyko]

I'm trying to use the harpoon to anchor a ship to a small moon so my station doesn't float away. I'm having 2 problems and wondering if others have found answers:

1. It's hard to get the right tension on the cable once the harpoon is anchored - too little and the station tends to float a bit, too much and the craft starts jittering and explodes - is there a way to set the max tension on the retract option so that it doesn't pull the system to the breaking point or some other trick?
2. Maybe due to (1), but I'm having a 50/50 success rate on my anchored ship exploding when I reload it from the Tracking Station

[IgorZ]

4 hours ago, Tyko said:

It's hard to get the right tension on the cable once the harpoon is anchored - too little and the station tends to float a bit, too much and the craft starts jittering and explodes - is there a way to set the max tension on the retract option so that it doesn't pull the system to the breaking point or some other trick?

Try using Winch GUI. There, you can specify the winch speed, and it will affect the force that is used to retract the cable. In general, catching anything in the space with harpoons is a big problem. And it's not about KAS or the game, it's about real world physics. If you were ever towing a car using a flexible cable, you know what I mean.

I may suggest a workaround using KAS 1.0: EVA, attach a foundation to the moon, then connect them using TJ-1 in the undocked mode. This type of the connection will be rigid. However, KAS 1.0 is in beta, and your game will likely be incompatible with the final version. 

4 hours ago, Tyko said:

Maybe due to (1), but I'm having a 50/50 success rate on my anchored ship exploding when I reload it from the Tracking Station

Hard to say if it's expected or not. I never tested against the moons or asteroids. The separate vessels in space can move during the loading, so technically they can collide.

16 hours ago, Antstar said:

Except, how the heck can I make said crane stable to the ground and yet able to rotate???

Afaik, there are no stock parts that allows doing it. The only mod that comes into my mind is IR.

[whale_2]

16 hours ago, Tyko said:

I'm trying to use the harpoon to anchor a ship to a small moon so my station doesn't float away. I'm having 2 problems and wondering if others have found answers:

1. It's hard to get the right tension on the cable once the harpoon is anchored - too little and the station tends to float a bit, too much and the craft starts jittering and explodes - is there a way to set the max tension on the retract option so that it doesn't pull the system to the breaking point or some other trick?
2. Maybe due to (1), but I'm having a 50/50 success rate on my anchored ship exploding when I reload it from the Tracking Station

#2 is likely not related to KAS but rather to a bug reintroduced in 1.3.1 --> #16159. I'm trying to fix it and did test that exact situation - a ship moored by KAS harpoons. So far it did work, maybe it worth checking out in your situation. However, be prepared for explosions in case of bad luck.

Here --> Bugfix for jumping vessels.  

[Antstar]

On 1/1/2018 at 11:17 PM, whale_2 said:

#2 is likely not related to KAS but rather to a bug reintroduced in 1.3.1 --> #16159. I'm trying to fix it and did test that exact situation - a ship moored by KAS harpoons. So far it did work, maybe it worth checking out in your situation. However, be prepared for explosions in case of bad luck.

Here --> Bugfix for jumping vessels.  

Sooooo.... I have a similiar issue, kind of. I suspect that the jumping ships are the cause of it but although I would prefer that they stay on the ground what is worse is that they are breaking linkages

The connectors are getting torn off and the pylons are detaching from the ground, but I want the pylons anchored to the ground because there will be a 600m overland chain of linkages put in place shortly. I don't think this will take kindly to being lowered, being over half a km long

Any suggestions??

[whale_2]

2 minutes ago, Antstar said:

Sooooo.... I have a similiar issue, kind of. I suspect that the jumping ships are the cause of it but although I would prefer that they stay on the ground what is worse is that they are breaking linkages

The connectors are getting torn off and the pylons are detaching from the ground, but I want the pylons anchored to the ground because there will be a 600m overland chain of linkages put in place shortly. I don't think this will take kindly to being lowered, being over half a km long

Any suggestions??

So did you try the WorldStabilizer?

[IgorZ]

1 hour ago, Antstar said:

Sooooo.... I have a similiar issue, kind of. I suspect that the jumping ships are the cause of it but although I would prefer that they stay on the ground what is worse is that they are breaking linkages

The connectors are getting torn off and the pylons are detaching from the ground, but I want the pylons anchored to the ground because there will be a 600m overland chain of linkages put in place shortly. I don't think this will take kindly to being lowered, being over half a km long

Any suggestions??

I'd be greatly surprised if 600m connection will be stable. 40m is usually enough to accumulate enough parasite forces to get the links broken. If you really want this long link, try using winches instead. Their links are flexible, and they are not affected by the issue.