KSPUtil gone in 1.2.1?

[martincmartin]

I just updated to 1.2.1, and now there's no KSPUtil.dll anywhere in my KSP directory.  Is this only gone on Mac, or is it also gone on Windows?  Can I remove it from my project?

[Crzyrndm]

You can remove it from any project post 1.2

[TaxiService]

KSPUtil.dll is merged into Assembly-CSharp.dll a few versions ago. You can drop the KSPUtil.dll reference from your project now.

[JPLRepo]

Second bullet point, and a bunch of other info that might help you:

 

[martincmartin]

6 hours ago, JPLRepo said:

Second bullet point, and a bunch of other info that might help you:

 

Thanks!  I also found this tidbit:

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Vessel.obt_velocity and .srf_velocity and the spd versions are not valid in FixedUpdate unless on rails. This is because they are based off what the orbit is estimated to be after PhysX integration runs (i.e. after all FixedUpdates run). 

Is there any way to get them between physics updates?  That is, if FixedUpdate() is called 3 times between calls to Update(), is there any way to get srf_velocity and/or obt_velocity after each one?  I guess I'll need to compute them myself...

[JPLRepo]

52 minutes ago, martincmartin said:

Thanks!  I also found this tidbit:

Is there any way to get them between physics updates?  That is, if FixedUpdate() is called 3 times between calls to Update(), is there any way to get srf_velocity and/or obt_velocity after each one?  I guess I'll need to compute them myself...

?? You should be doing physics in FixedUpdate in your module. Not in Update

[martincmartin]

6 minutes ago, JPLRepo said:

?? You should be doing physics in FixedUpdate in your module. Not in Update

I am!  And I want to use srf_velocity in my physics calculations, e.g. to know which direction is prograde (relative to surface, not orbit).  But it seems srf_velocity is only valid in Update(), not FixedUpdate().

[JPLRepo]

Ah yes it is. Sorry. So in Update store it. Then reference it in FixedUpdate?
EDIT: Actually it's updated in Update and FixedUpdate. so when you say it's not available you mean you can't reference it?

 

Edited November 15, 2016 by JPLRepo

[martincmartin]

I'm just quoting the "Modders Notes for KSP 1.2" that you linked to (thanks again for linking to that!).  It contains the line:

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Vessel.obt_velocity and .srf_velocity and the spd versions are not valid in FixedUpdate unless on rails. This is because they are based off what the orbit is estimated to be after PhysX integration runs (i.e. after all FixedUpdates run). 

What does it mean by "not valid"?  Is it just the value from the last physics update, or garbage numbers?  I've been assuming its the value from the last physics update.  Of course, the first frame after you switch to it, it could be a very old & essentially garbage number.  But after that, hopefully it will be ok.

[sarbian]

From memory they are not correct at that point because they do not include the drift compensation yet. We may need a @NathanKell or @taniwha to remind me of the specifics.

[NathanKell]

I _think_ I fixed all that by the end of pre, so they're valid.