tater Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Live in <2 hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tater Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Tomorrow's launch is from Wallops, BTW ( @sevenperforce and anyone else in the mid-Atlantic region) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Seeing NET March 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevenperforce Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 On 3/12/2023 at 12:33 AM, tater said: Seeing NET March 14 Sad, but also good because I was out of town. Maybe the weather will be clear tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 7 hours ago, sevenperforce said: Maybe the weather will be clear tomorrow. Night means a decent shot of seeing it if it's clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevenperforce Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 hour ago, tater said: Night means a decent shot of seeing it if it's clear. I'll be in administrative law class then but maybe I can duck out if it's clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Another crack at it today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevenperforce Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 25 minutes ago, tater said: Another crack at it today. The weather forecast says partly sunny here at 6 PM but partly cloudy by 7 PM. Winds are largely SSE so hopefully we get an unobstructed view of the eastern sky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 1 minute ago, sevenperforce said: The weather forecast says partly sunny here at 6 PM but partly cloudy by 7 PM. Winds are largely SSE so hopefully we get an unobstructed view of the eastern sky. Good luck! Having finally been to a launch that was better than the couple of sounding rockets I saw at White Sands, it's worth seeing (closer even than the ~12 miles I got would be even better). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tater Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Missed the launch, but it was successful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JoeSchmuckatelli Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 1 hour ago, tater said: That picture is so Kerbal; there's a freaking tractor-trailer FEET away from the rocket, and it's launching from what looks like a built-up area in a warehouse parking lot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kerballlistic07 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 I already lost too much sleep last night with Terran 1, gonna have to miss this one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RCgothic Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 Same price, half as capable, over half a decade later to market. It's honestly a little disappointing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerballlistic07 Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 4 hours ago, RCgothic said: Same price, half as capable, over half a decade later to market. It's honestly a little disappointing. Or, you could be supportive and realize that the more it fly's, the cheaper the cost. If you, I'm assuming SpaceX fanboy, were to look at Starship, then you'd see that they plan to get the launch price down to around $10,000,000. It is certainly not going to start this cheap. Rocket Lab will do the same thing. It will go down over time as they reuse it more and iterate it like SpaceX did to Falcon 9. Also realize that they are in a different market. Electron is for small sats. If you launch a smallsat on a dedicated Falcon 9, its a waste of space and money. You also have to understand, most satellites don't use the full capabilities of Falcon 9. So by having a launch vehicle more suited to their size, they get launched at a cheaper cost. So please, take your SpaceX fanboy self over to this forum! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Kerballlistic07 said: Or, you could be supportive and realize that the more it fly's, the cheaper the cost. If you, I'm assuming SpaceX fanboy, were to look at Starship, then you'd see that they plan to get the launch price down to around $10,000,000. It is certainly not going to start this cheap. Rocket Lab will do the same thing. It will go down over time as they reuse it more and iterate it like SpaceX did to Falcon 9. His concern is entirely legitimate. Unlike SpaceX, Rocket Lab is now on the stock exchange. As a result, they have to exist as a business first and foremost. There is no reason to believe they can accomplish incredibly high flight rates, because there will not be customers to support that. The total commercial launch market is not terribly large. The reason for Neutron is precisely because the small sat market is... weak. 35 minutes ago, Kerballlistic07 said: Also realize that they are in a different market. Electron is for small sats. If you launch a smallsat on a dedicated Falcon 9, its a waste of space and money. You also have to understand, most satellites don't use the full capabilities of Falcon 9. So by having a launch vehicle more suited to their size, they get launched at a cheaper cost. So please, take your SpaceX fanboy self over to this forum! Small sats are a dead end IMHO. They exist not because they are best, but because launch costs are high. As launch costs decrease, the need for tiny sats also decreases. I have to say that while I like Rocket Lab, @RCgothic is right. Neutron is cool, but I think it's still in a tough spot from a commercial LV perspective. On the plus side for them, they are aggressively pushing for a 2024 test date, which very likely has them flying before New Glenn (late 2024, so likely 2025 for NG). We simply don't know what the cost/kg will be for NG. SpaceX pricing has had zero competition, so we have no idea what they could afford to fly F9 for if push came to shove. Then there's Stoke, which seems to also be working pretty aggressively. Any race to the bottom on cost doesn't necessarily help a startup as the total number of payloads is low. Stoke has smaller payloads, but if they can fly with 100% reuse, the cost/flight will be far lower than Neutron—it'll be the price of propellants. Edited March 25, 2023 by tater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerballlistic07 Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 True. I guess I just feel like I have to root for the smaller guys sometimes. Did they say whether they were going to develop a reusable upper stage or not? I can't remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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