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18 hours ago, sevenperforce said:

Kestrel, Merlin, Falcon, Raptor.

Thinking bigger?

  • Eagle
  • Heron
  • Penguin
  • Ostrich
  • Pelican
  • Vulture
  • Buzzard
  • Pelagornis sandersi
  • Argentavis magnificens
  • Teratornis merriami
  • Kelenken guillermoi
  • Brontornis burmeisteri
  • Titanis walleri
  • Arambourgiania philadelphiae

Definitely Penguin, if only so that we can get headlines like "astronauts ride four penguins to Mars."

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44 minutes ago, Jaelommiss said:

Definitely Penguin, if only so that we can get headlines like "astronauts ride four penguins to Mars."

BFspaceship looks alot like penguin to be honest.

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Same colors and simulair shape. 

 

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10 minutes ago, sevenperforce said:

Finally. This was a no-brainer.

Unrelated: would a Falcon Heavy have been able to deliver Parker Solar Probe with the same performance as the DIVH last night?

My guess is that it would have had to expend at least its core.

I think it would have to expend parts of the rocket. Here is a diagram of the orbits of the probe:

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16 minutes ago, sevenperforce said:

Finally. This was a no-brainer.

Unrelated: would a Falcon Heavy have been able to deliver Parker Solar Probe with the same performance as the DIVH last night?

My guess is that it would have had to expend at least its core.

Launch C3 was ~154 km2/s2.

The baseline D IVH curve is twice as high as FH, so I can only imagine that even with a Star48 under the fairing, FH has trouble matching DIVH under any conditions.

Looks like expended is maybe around 70 for FH? The Star 48 might well get it there. Recovered is closer to 40 as a baseline for FH, so likely falls short.

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22 minutes ago, tater said:

Launch C3 was ~154 km2/s2.

The baseline D IVH curve is twice as high as FH, so I can only imagine that even with a Star48 under the fairing, FH has trouble matching DIVH under any conditions.

Looks like expended is maybe around 70 for FH? The Star 48 might well get it there. Recovered is closer to 40 as a baseline for FH, so likely falls short.

Let's see here. The Star48B (with or without vectoring) masses 126 kg dry and 2137 kg wet, with an Isp of 286s. The probe, with fuel, masses 685 kg. So the Star delivered 3.495 km/s.

A Venusian Hohmann costs about 3.5 km/s out of LEO, while a Mercurian costs 5.5 km/s. So we know the DIVH pushed a payload of 2.8 tonnes at least 2 km/s beyond LEO. The reusable FH, sandbagged, delivered the Roadster and an indeterminate amount of ballast to at least 3.6 km/s beyond LEO. 

Back of the envelope says that the Block 4 FH could have done it with center-core expenditure, though I don't know whether they'd be able to manage RTLS for the side boosters. Block 5 FH could likely have done it with RTLS on the side boosters but would still need to expend the center core.

10 minutes ago, tater said:

Interesting. There is apparently a SpaceX press conf on Monday.

Innnnnnnnnnnteresting. Elon said a week or so ago that we were able to get more BFR news.

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2 minutes ago, sevenperforce said:

Innnnnnnnnnnteresting. Elon said a week or so ago that we were able to get more BFR news.

There was a link on NSF to some youtuber covering the PSP launch, and he said he was flying to LA for a SpaceX conf on Monday. Haven't seen other announcements yet.

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6 hours ago, YNM said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_birds

There's also still :

  • Condor
  • Albatross
  • Bustard
  • Swan
  • Turkey
  • Rhea
  • Penguin
  • Emu
  • Cassowary
  • Ostrich

SpaceX would probably want to stay away from names like “Albatross” or “Turkey,” as those have negative connotations and are more applicable to the SLS...

But a Condor, Heron or Swan soaring across the void sounds... impressive. 

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8 minutes ago, insert_name said:

Good lord it will be hilarious if NASA stubbornly insists on flying LOP-G elements with SLS while the other contributing countries buy slots on FH.

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8 minutes ago, sevenperforce said:

Good lord it will be hilarious if NASA stubbornly insists on flying LOP-G elements with SLS while the other contributing countries buy slots on FH.

FH is only considered for resupply missions

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