Spaceception Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 I might barely be able to watch the Europa Clipper launch. It's supposed to launch at 12:06, my first class ends at 12:00, crossing my fingers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Spaceception Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 NASA's stream will go live in just over an hour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tecorian Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 Does anyone knows or has links, how much computer power is needed, to do this landing manouver with the starship? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBase Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 Anyone knows how big payload mass simulator for flight 5 was ? Or did they not fully load it with fuel ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubinator Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 20 minutes ago, Tecorian said: Does anyone knows or has links, how much computer power is needed, to do this landing manouver with the starship? The computer you sent this message on can most likely pull off such a maneuver in a realistic simulation, in terms of raw calculation. Of course, the sensors gathering the data, computing and commanding control inputs on Starship are built a bit differently to survive being thrown into space, shaken around, and sending data across such large distances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AckSed Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 Approx 1 hour, 10 minutes to Europa Clipper launch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 (edited) 4 hours ago, Tecorian said: Does anyone knows or has links, how much computer power is needed, to do this landing manouver with the starship? I've seen claims that the F9 booster uses a voting trio of dual core x86s. So not terribly compute intensive. SH is certainly not concerned about the mass of different possible computer systems, whatever it is is probably lighter than a single reinforcement stringer Edited October 14 by tater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 I apologize in advance for the overuse of "vibe" in the following, lol. I was thinking about the "vibe" discussion we had earlier. It's sort of like this. Growing up with Apollo as something we saw on TV as a little kid, I guess the "idea" of giant rockets flinging us to other worlds became normalized because of that program. That's my Apollo vibe in this case, not the historic achievement of Moon landing, the normalcy of Moon landing. I didn't see it in historical terms as my parents, grandparents, and great grandparents (the latter literally born in the 1800s!) did, I saw it as normal to push the envelope. I was older for Shuttle, and saw it as the cool thing it clearly was, and it rapidly became so normalized it was actually hard to pay attention (launches not even having live coverage). So the feeling was a combination, but I think still riding on the "cool space stuff progressing is NORMAL" vibe. I soured on Shuttle later in part I think because it killed the vibe of progress being made, it became stagnant. The vibe with Starship I guess, is seeing it as a historical milestone (cause we're paying attention), but looking back at previous programs and knowing it will be normal soon. I'm anticipating progress again. Progress is the vibe. Also: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolotiyeruki Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 (edited) 13 hours ago, zolotiyeruki said: Well, hello there, new wallpaper! I just noticed that one of the ten engines in the second ring isn't glowing and flaming like the other nine. The graphics on SpaceX's feed show all 10+3 engines running nominally for the landing burn, but something is different about this one: Edited October 14 by zolotiyeruki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minmus Taster Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 2 hours ago, Spaceception said: NASA's stream will go live in just over an hour NASA streams like this remind me why people enjoy private companies so much, so pretentious, also glitchy as heck. T-10 Minutes Also holy cow where did that Starship tower come from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 4 minutes ago, zolotiyeruki said: I just noticed that one of the ten engines in the second ring isn't glowing and flaming like the other nine. The graphics on SpaceX's feed show all 10+3 engines running nominally for the landing burn, but something is different about this one: I think it's just eddies of flame from right after the outer 10 shut down and it was flying into exhaust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minmus Taster Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 T-3 Minutes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotel26 Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 (edited) 56 minutes ago, tater said: I was thinking about the "vibe" discussion we had earlier. It's an interesting comparison to try to make. Firstly, IFT-5 was a coaster ride for an hour or so. Spectacular and gripping. Highly climactic. The achievement technologically was powerful, particularly because there was a load of incredulity to overcome, which is normal when something brand new and so thoroughly audacious is being attempted. It has implications for progress and advancement in the future, for those who understand those implications, but the sensational appeal of IFT-5 is directly, visually accessible to a whole world audience. As a contender for second to Apollo 11, I cannot think of another worthy. Maybe Juno comes to mind as a further-off third (but that's only me). Apollo 11 took place slowly, painstakingly, step-by-step over a number of days in a quite tranquil fashion, but with the whole world watching, in suspense. A number of days or the better part of a decade if you started the clock with JFK's challenge speech. NASA had the planet and a good part of humanity captivated. The experience was communal, shared amongst all peoples as an inspiration to mankind, but nevertheless a glowing testament to the American "can-do" spirit that truly existed at that time. This last part -- that "can-do" spirit -- is wholly embodied in the SpaceX culture today, but sadly I say no longer in the American population. Perhaps SpaceX, amongst other future accomplishments, may reignite that spirit, in America or elsewhere. Nevertheless, this is one aspect positively in common between the two missions, then and now. I was 14 then and there is a sense of Apollo 11 that may be lost now, or certainly not so obvious, the one that stood out then for me and I think shared by all in 1969; and it was of this: from the very first evening in which homo sapiens sapiens looked at the night sky and wondered -- with the most obvious celestial body, useful and interesting, being our Moon, -- whether it would be possible for humans to voyage to that body and has concomitantly hoped and dreamed to be able to do so. In the field of aerospace, after Apollo 11 returned, it was clear that all time had been neatly cleaved in two: that before Apollo 11 and all that that follows after. "Standing on the shoulders of giants..." Edited October 14 by Hotel26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minmus Taster Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 Anomaly with Stage 2 of course : / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AckSed Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 Temperature anomaly on second stage, investigating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minmus Taster Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 Fully fueled T-2 Minutes T-1 minute Anomaly resolved Fair winds and following seas Clipper Boosters are away Center core is away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AckSed Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 On our way. No oxygen leaks I can see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSaint Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 4 hours ago, darthgently said: Positively disruptive Space shuttle was supposed to make everything cheaper.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minmus Taster Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 We're in orbit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 20 minutes ago, Hotel26 said: This last part -- that "can-do" spirit -- is wholly embodied in the SpaceX culture today That's a better expression of the vibe than I gave. Can-do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukaszenko Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 15 hours ago, PakledHostage said: Yeah, we have to remember that we live in a bubble. This is super cool to all of us, but many others don't care. My wife told me this morning to turn off the replay I was watching, because "nobody cares". And I asked on my work's company chat after flight 4 if anyone had watched and all I heard was crickets. Apollo was before my time, but from what I can tell from the historical record, almost everyone cared about Apollo 11. Sadly this, only a few of us nerds care. It was headline news on BBC, and still on the front page. Also I got some texts about it, and was even brought up during dinner. Granted most of my friends are at least somewhat technical, but still. My girl watched with me, but she didn't seem interested much. Until she realized the damn thing was caught, and hanging in mid-air. "Now that's epic " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minmus Taster Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 Earth escape burn is underway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AckSed Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 Second burn and the telemetry is doing the KSP thing where the path unspools out to deep space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minmus Taster Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 Engine cutoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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