tater Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 (edited) Ouch is right. 6 minutes ago, RCgothic said: Ouch Edited June 16, 2021 by tater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 "In the roll you will collaborate with the business unit and engineering leadership to achieve program goals. " They apparently also need to have a copy editor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southernplain Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 Definitely seems like New Glenn development is a mess. We kind of knew that based on the lack of progress though I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beccab Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 At least now it's clear that the people saying "there must be much more progress behind the scenes than what they are showing" were wrong, both because of the very explicit wording in the job offer and that they are looking for an external engineer while supposedly so late in the development Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 They've been around for 20 years. Clearly not well managed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrandedonEarth Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 I guess one gets complacent working for Daddy Deeppockets, if you never knew the lean and mean times. BO just needs to wait a few years, then they can license production of General Products Starship hulls and Superheavy Texas Medium boosters. Those things are gonna be cranked out like 737s and DC-3s…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 (edited) The "current" Chief engineer (since 2018) was almost 7 years with ULA and worked on Vulcan, and LockMart before that. The guy is either not great at management, has some other serious issues—or is being used as a scapegoat. (any, or some combination of those are all possible) That job posting is pretty brutal in terms of the way it attacks the guy who is being replaced. Edited June 16, 2021 by tater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Shpaget Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Even mentioning systemic issues is a clear indicator that they realize that they have them. "Potential future sytemic isaues doesn't make sense" Also "review of corrective actions" makes sense only in context of past actions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 @tater Looks like you were right about them needing that copy editor more than you knew. As usual, BO making it really hard to be a fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 29 minutes ago, CatastrophicFailure said: @tater Looks like you were right about them needing that copy editor more than you knew. I wonder if there is a role for a copy editor there Maybe they had one and rolled him out the door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beccab Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Just now, tater said: Maybe they had one and rolled him out the door. They should get a new copy editor to provide independent review of corrective actions for major failures at the editing level and work with editing managers in addressing systemic issues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacescifi Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Beccab said: They should get a new copy editor to provide independent review of corrective actions for major failures at the editing level and work with editing managers in addressing systemic issues Well...I will laugh heartily if when they finally launch, it says Bleu Organ. Hey if flies successfully, I can ignore that. For that matter, if it flies successful, keep the messed up copy editor. Better to get text wrong with a working rocket than.....well....LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrandedonEarth Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 A little cross-pollination from the ULA thread…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tater Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/07/increasingly-the-ula-blue-origin-marriage-is-an-unhappy-one/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 Allegedly from Tory's own alt account... Spoiler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 BO throws shade on Virgin: I'm not a fan of Spaceship 2, and I agree on the windows and escape system, but this seems pretty weaksauce to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beccab Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, tater said: BO throws shade on Virgin: I'm not a fan of Spaceship 2, and I agree on the windows and escape system, but this seems pretty weaksauce to me. What the heck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 They were supposed to announce the auction winner... they have not. Odd. They said: Jeff. His Brother. Wally Funk. 4th and final? You'd think if the auction was won such that it was donated to Wally, they would have said that. The alternate explanation is that they swapped the final seat for the 3d seat in terms of announcements. Still, it's odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevenperforce Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 17 minutes ago, tater said: BO throws shade on Virgin: <snip> I'm not a fan of Spaceship 2, and I agree on the windows and escape system, but this seems pretty weaksauce to me. The windows thing is meh. The Mercury capsule had crappy windows; what of it? The escape system is more significant to me. And the fact that you're not actually going above the Karman line. But making a whole infographic to whine about it seems pointless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, sevenperforce said: The windows thing is meh. The Mercury capsule had crappy windows; what of it? The escape system is more significant to me. And the fact that you're not actually going above the Karman line. As far as the experience goes, I think the windows matter, less of a requirement to plaster your face against the plexiglass. The LES is huge, as I have said, I would have flown (for free ) on NS any of the recent flights, no concerns. Pretty sure I'd not fly on Spaceship 2 if they paid ME the $28M the BO flight was won for. Karmam line? Meh, arbitrary number is arbitrary. For the Earth region human space experience I'd say suborbital is 3 level, then 2 is orbital (higher alt, far longer duration of experience), and the best level, 1, would be far enough up that you see the entirety of the Earth. 2 minutes ago, sevenperforce said: But making a whole infographic to whine about it seems pointless. Yeah, a really bad look. Bet it gets ratioed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beccab Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, sevenperforce said: And the fact that you're not actually going above the Karman line. It is just semantics, given that NS goes barely in space as well and both definitions are completely arbitary and not supported by any calculation. The only phisically defined space definition is 83.6 km, which is where the atmosphere becomes too thin for airplane flight. Both VG and BO go above this line, so both this and the definition of spaceship 2 as a "high altitute airplane" is pointless and just an attempt to make VG look bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Been a while since I read it, but as I recall Jonathan McDowell said that the real line is somewhere above 80km, and below 100km. His metric I believe was the point at which 1 orbit was not possible due to drag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Virgin test pilot chimes in: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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