tater Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 Also, BO plans to land NG in the same way as NS. Zwero velocity, hover, land. As such they can "land" offset from the ship, then displace to set down—should that maneuver fail, the vehicle will be merely falling a few meters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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farmerben Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 Bezos loves KSP proof in taters video above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthgently Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 8 hours ago, tater said: 1. The magic thermo-cloth gives off woven iconel 600 vibes (I've seen iconel 600 that had a bronzish hue like that, but also others also called that that have no yellow in their color). 2. The presumed ITAR auditor must have been going nuts trying to go through all this stuff in both the Musk and Bezos interviews. 3. I want to live near the cape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 I look forward to BO flying for real. There's actually a lot of overlap between the Bezos and Musk vision, and the two operating at once can only make everything better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthgently Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 3 minutes ago, tater said: I look forward to BO flying for real. There's actually a lot of overlap between the Bezos and Musk vision, and the two operating at once can only make everything better. An interesting symbiosis between their visions would be a BO-initiated large Earth-Mars cycler/orbital/freighter and a very large SpaceX-initiated Martian spaceport/shipyard/city as a stepping stone to the outer solar system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 So Flight 2 becomes flight 1, and in November instead of Oct 13. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthgently Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 (edited) 7 minutes ago, tater said: This pushes them into the tail of the transfer window, doesn't it? Idk. I'm thinking something will come that changes all these plans. I'm all for them succeeding but I think they are cutting it too close to reliably make the window and they will wave themselves off as they (BO) just don't do fast very well and know it. But who knows? Edited September 6 by darthgently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meecrob Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 20 hours ago, farmerben said: Bezos loves KSP proof in taters video above. Duh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 2 minutes ago, darthgently said: This pushes them into the tail of the transfer window, doesn't it? Idk. I'm thinking something will come that changes all these plans. I'm all for them succeeding but I think they are cutting it too close to reliably make the window and they will wave themselves off as they (BO) just don't do fast very well and know it. But who knows? Escapade is tiny, NG stage 2 has decent dv. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthgently Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 2 minutes ago, tater said: Escapade is tiny, NG stage 2 has decent dv. Yeah, I finally realized that ESCAPADE is planning to launch outside the fat part of the Hohmann transfer window so it doesn't matter to a medium degree. When Bezos said that they had extra dv so they could launch later I didn't imagine that meant that much later, but yeah, it is tiny, so the dv increase would be much less also and they get a much more generous window Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 Yeah but… it’s not just the yeet… it’s the anti-yeet at the other end, unless it’s supposed to just go sailing past Mars. Seems like a much bigger hunk of DV needed from Escapade too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthgently Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 Looks like BO is a lot more eager to launch quick than I thought. Well, go for it, I say. Though I am glad ESCAPADE won't be risked on the maiden flight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthgently Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 Bergergram on the schedule change: https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/09/new-glenns-debut-will-slip-into-november-as-nasa-decides-to-not-fuel-escapade/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceception Posted September 7 Share Posted September 7 New Glenn has to launch this year, Vulcan and Ariane 6 did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AckSed Posted September 7 Share Posted September 7 It was ambitious to say the least, so not a surprise NASA gave the no-go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 I like this dude. Every time he posts, my respect meter recovers a notch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 Can't wait to have another big rocket flying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 **** shaped rocket about to fly: 4 min hold, maybe flight soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 Scrubbed I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 Trying again this morning in about an hour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minmus Taster Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 Performance anxiety? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceception Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 Blue Origin has stated they're looking into cheap vs reusable upper stages, and I wonder if/how much Starship flights are influencing that decision making. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 17 minutes ago, Spaceception said: Blue Origin has stated they're looking into cheap vs reusable upper stages, and I wonder if/how much Starship flights are influencing that decision making. Dumping dead mass is smart. Helps to get more than 45t to LEO though. With SS expended getting 200t, there's a ton you can do with a stage based on that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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