sh1pman Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Just now, kerbiloid said: PTKNP competes with Soyuz. Why Argo can't be a test prototype for future crewship? PTKNP is made by the same organization that makes Soyuz (RKK Energia). It’s a replacement, not competition. Argo will be made by some outside company and is designed to compete with Progress, which Roscosmos doesn’t want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) 19 minutes ago, sh1pman said: PTKNP is made by the same organization that makes Soyuz (RKK Energia). It’s a replacement, not competition. Argo will be made by some outside company and is designed to compete with Progress, which Roscosmos doesn’t want. Are Angara and Soyuz from the same developer? Don't they try to have both? Spoiler P.S. 3. Another personal argument pro for me: I was intensively trying to pack a sixpack of Kerbals with a toilet into a capsule of standard KSP diameters. As it also describes altitudes and fuel amounts, which were an object of interest, too, this article is obviously a response of reality on my efforts. (The landing shield, too. I was thinking about it.) So, you may construct your own reality, with Starship and auxilliary personnel, but in mine it's nice. Edited September 30, 2019 by kerbiloid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh1pman Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 minute ago, kerbiloid said: Are Angara and Soyuz from the same developer? Don't they try to have both? Angara is a replacement for Proton, made by the manufacturer of Proton. It won’t compete with Soyuz-2 or Soyuz-7, which are medium rockets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, sh1pman said: Angara is a replacement for Proton, made by the manufacturer of Proton. It won’t compete with Soyuz-2 or Soyuz-7, which are medium rockets. Soyuz-5 is Proton-class, like the light Angara. And the future of heavy Angara is unclear. Upd.https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Иртыш_(ракета-носитель)#Критика The Argo chief developer isn't happy with Soyuz-5. And Soyuz-5 future gets unclear. Edited September 30, 2019 by kerbiloid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh1pman Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Just now, kerbiloid said: Soyuz-5 is Proton-class, like the light Angara. And the future of heavy Angara is unclear. They are all Roscosmos rockets, so it doesn’t really matter if they compete with each other or not. Argo, on the other hand, is a competition from outside, which is bad for Roscosmos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, sh1pman said: They are all Roscosmos rockets, so it doesn’t really matter if they compete with each other or not. Argo, on the other hand, is a competition from outside, which is bad for Roscosmos. Depends on the "outside" degree. And on changes in Roscosmos, if any. Like it always was in the USSR with at least 3 space manufacturers at once. Maybe the composites plant is the key thing. Aviation needs a lot of. Edited September 30, 2019 by kerbiloid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh1pman Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, kerbiloid said: Depends on the "outside" degree. And on changes in Roscosmos, if any. Like it always was in the USSR with at least 3 space manufacturers at once. Maybe the composites plant is the key thing. Aviation needs a lot of. Roscosmos is a state corporation, not a state agency, which means that it has financial interest in not letting other organizations take their part of space launch market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 23 minutes ago, sh1pman said: Roscosmos is a state corporation, not a state agency, which means that it has financial interest in not letting other organizations take their part of space launch market. Including Angara, but they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Roscosmos is going to halve crewed launches due to coming US ships. In 2020 they will launch 2 Soyuzes (in Q2 and Q4) instead of usual 4. Progresses stay same, 3 per year. https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ru&sl=ru&tl=en&u=https://www.rbc.ru/rbcfreenews/5d92959e9a79476373e788f3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teilnehmer Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 What if the commercial vehicles are not ready by this time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 45 minutes ago, Teilnehmer said: What if the commercial vehicles are not ready by this time? Afair, NASA prolongates Soyuz contracts even if are. So, probably this is a number of planned launches, not of ships to build. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDE Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Sea Launch's Odyssey platform is being prepared for relocation to Russia's Far East... by stripping away all US and Ukrainian systems. https://www.rbc.ru/rbcfreenews/5d9c3f5e9a794793e6174759 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh1pman Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 38 minutes ago, DDE said: Sea Launch's Odyssey platform is being prepared for relocation to Russia's Far East... by stripping away all US and Ukrainian systems. https://www.rbc.ru/rbcfreenews/5d9c3f5e9a794793e6174759 Maybe they’re converting it to an oil rig. Way more profitable than launching rockets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDE Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 According to Bart Henrdrickx, the Ekipazh project with a 100 kW reactor to power an E-war suite is proceeding towards an early 2020s launch on a Soyuz-2. However, the megawatt-class TEM tug is sucking away the precious resources. http://thespacereview.com/article/3809/1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kerbiloid Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 So, the Fedor votes for TKS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDE Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 15 hours ago, kerbiloid said: So, the Fedor votes for TKS. Wasn't he scrapped? I think there's a term for that kind of voter. Spoiler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 12 minutes ago, DDE said: Wasn't he scrapped? Maybe he's in quarantine. Also we can remember that some tweet was signed by F-859... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wjolcz Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Why didn't they leave FEDOR up there for longer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDE Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Wjolcz said: Why didn't they leave FEDOR up there for longer? It's a cosmonaut-sized payload, and I'm not sure if they had any other Soyuz seats to spare in the near future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Also for his space mutiny. First on docking, then onboard, later on post-flight testing. AI should know who is boss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wjolcz Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 15 minutes ago, DDE said: It's a cosmonaut-sized payload, and I'm not sure if they had any other Soyuz seats to spare in the near future. Why not indefinitely then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh1pman Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Wjolcz said: Why not indefinitely then? Because he completed all of his tasks. There's nothing else for him to do up there. Next Skybot version that's going to fly to ISS will be different and upgraded with a second set of arms and radiation shielding to work outside the station. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Also the he must write a report and sign up in accountant dept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Steve Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Interesting, a mission extension vehicle launched on this most recent Proton. It will grapple old sats by the engine and provide ~15 years worth of control propellant. Its first mission is to extend the life of Intelsat 901 by 5 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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