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41 minutes ago, DDE said:

So, any takers on what NROL-71 is?

And don’t say “nice try, GRU”. Right now NASASpaceflight tips towards either a Block V KH-11 in a lower-inclination orbit, or a third stealthy, ASAT-hardened Misty. However, word in meatspace is that it’s got a really big emitter to go with the mirror - and that the scrubs are not accidental.

What would be the purpose of an intentional scrub?

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On 12/16/2018 at 8:16 AM, Nightside said:

What would be the purpose of an intentional scrub?

Announce a time for a weird orbit (that you don't want anyway) to throw off the ones trying to figure out why in the world you wanted that orbit.  People couldn't figure out what the orbit was for, and scrubbing it made it even more suspicious.

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13 hours ago, wumpus said:

Announce a time for a weird orbit (that you don't want anyway) to throw off the ones trying to figure out why in the world you wanted that orbit.  People couldn't figure out what the orbit was for, and scrubbing it made it even more suspicious.

Yeah, orbit’s pretty weird. The drop zones make it look like another Misty rather than a KH-11.

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47 minutes ago, Nightside said:

My spy tech knowledge is lacking, i’ve read that the KH sats are basically a Hubble looking down, but what is a Misty?

Reportedly a KH-11 with some sort of stealth gear in the form of a radar and light deflecting shield balloon they can swing into place to make the satellite essentially untrackable from the ground. Great for allowing you to shift the orbital parameters without being spotted, eliminating the biggest problem with recon satellites: regularity.

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9 minutes ago, Scotius said:

Wait... so it means there is stealth in space? :ph34r: Hmph. All the threads we went through discussing this very thing... we collectively came to conclusion there is no such thing... it was all a LIE!!! :wacko:

I don‘t think a one directional form of stealth like this shield provides, was ever called into question. Whats impossible is be stealthy from all angles or during maneuvers.

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1 hour ago, Scotius said:

Wait... so it means there is stealth in space? :ph34r: Hmph. All the threads we went through discussing this very thing... we collectively came to conclusion there is no such thing... it was all a LIE!!! :wacko:

At the very least, they tried.

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@Nightside, ping.

They reportedly also used that reflector tech on something known only as the Prowler.

 

http://satobs.org/seesat_ref/STS_38/Unknown_GEO_Object_2000-653A_-_90007_Identified_as_Prowler.pdf

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9 hours ago, Canopus said:

I don‘t think a one directional form of stealth like this shield provides, was ever called into question. Whats impossible is be stealthy from all angles or during maneuvers.

So... what you're saying is we need a reconnaissance satellite reconnaissance satellite in a higher orbit to spy on the reconnaissance satellites? :confused:

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7 hours ago, ThatGuyWithALongUsername said:

So... what you're saying is we need a reconnaissance satellite reconnaissance satellite in a higher orbit to spy on the reconnaissance satellites? :confused:

The US has exactly that - a vast, multifaceted program for space-to-space reconnaissance.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Based_Space_Surveillance

http://www.thespacereview.com/article/2839/2 (skip a section)

http://www.thespacereview.com/article/3277/1

The fearmongering about the Chinese on the dark side of the Moon suggests the future Space Force wants a lot more space surveillance capabilities on top of that.

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