Ho Lam Kerman Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 1 hour ago, 050644zf said: So I think it may take a while for them to get out of this kind of "sensitive" state and provide more infomation. About how long does it normally take for them to be comfortable with releasing the data? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
050644zf Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Ho Lam Kerman said: About how long does it normally take for them to be comfortable with releasing the data? I have totally no idea : ( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xd the great Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 19 minutes ago, Ho Lam Kerman said: About how long does it normally take for them to be comfortable with releasing the data? Never. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDE Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ho Lam Kerman said: About how long does it normally take for them to be comfortable with releasing the data? If we go by Soviet analogy? Several months to never. 5 hours ago, 050644zf said: Here is! The first picture captured on the far side of the moon! Hey! That’s MY shade of blue! Edited January 3, 2019 by DDE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YNM Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ho Lam Kerman said: About how long does it normally take for them to be comfortable with releasing the data? Actually, this is common in every scientific mission : for NASA, normally the principal team (and whoever else is "interested", geddit) has an exclusive 1-year right to own & analyze the images. So stuff that you see right off the bat on those missions are still not the full capabilities of the instruments - those are only made public (at least) a year after. Sometimes there are images that is deemed to be of low scientific value for the team, these can be made public faster. Given the amount of collaboration they have with other parties they're probably on similar terms as well. Edited January 3, 2019 by YNM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatGuyWithALongUsername Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, Ho Lam Kerman said: For us here in China it's been 2019 for 3 days, but who cares? 6 hours ago, YNM said: It has been 3 for us as well... Gah, you're right, timezones- actually, now it's 3 days here too. Doesn't make it any less amazing, though. Edited January 3, 2019 by ThatGuyWithALongUsername Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ho Lam Kerman Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 We've had OSIRIS-REx orbit insertion in these 3 days too, so still a milestone a day! 5 hours ago, 050644zf said: I have totally no idea : ( Does anyone know when the corresponding data was released for Chang'e 3? Maybe we could base our predictions off that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
050644zf Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 (edited) Finally, the rover of the Chang'e-4 got her name: Yutu-2 (CNSA has collected lots of names before but I think Yutu, the name of last rover, is the best choice.) (Background: Chang'e is the goddess of moon, and her husband became Yutu(means Jade Rabbit). ) (So, I think if the rover got other name will sounds like Chang'e change her husband) 33 minutes ago, Ho Lam Kerman said: Does anyone know when the corresponding data was released for Chang'e 3? Maybe we could base our predictions off that. the data I found was CE2, publish on 2018-4-4. You can check it out here http://moon.bao.ac.cn/index_en.jsp OK I found the data from CE3 from above but it doesn't mention that when they upload it. Edited January 3, 2019 by 050644zf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
050644zf Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 (edited) The Rover Yutu-2 has successfully released from Chang'e-4 at 14:22 UTC. Here is the photo of the wheel of Yutu-2 before release. Maybe we will see them taking photo from each other tonight Edited January 3, 2019 by 050644zf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YNM Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 (edited) @050644zf where do you get the pics ? Would you be able to help finding the streams from CNSA in their instagram/twitter-like things ? I heard one of their youtube-like platform has recently implemented a livestream of sorts, if you found them would you be willing to share it here ? I know they haven't completely closed all doors - it's just now all the remaining doors are in Mandarin. Edited January 3, 2019 by YNM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
050644zf Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 1 minute ago, YNM said: @050644zf where do you get the pics ? Would you be able to help finding the streams from CNSA in their instagram/twitter-like things ? I heard one of their youtube-like platform has recently implemented a livestream of sorts, if you found them would you be willing to share it here ? I know they haven't completely closed all doors - it's just now all the remaining doors are in Mandarin. The picture I get is from weibo China Luna Exploration Project. Actually, we also can't see any live stream at all now. All the recorded video we get is from CCTV only. Indeed, we have far less doors than before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted January 3, 2019 Author Share Posted January 3, 2019 This guy tries to stay on top of their stuff: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YNM Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 11 minutes ago, 050644zf said: we also can't see any live stream at all now. I know they probably don't have a livestream right now (not very impressive watching people in a control room cheering at their personal screens I suppose, and I doubt they're cheering as those in SpX do, or even just claps as with ESA), but if they launch anything in the future, be it a new Shenzou, or another probe, or another new launch vehicle, would you be willing to share it with us ? Thanks for sharing the weibo ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
050644zf Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 1 minute ago, YNM said: I know they probably don't have a livestream right now (not very impressive watching people in a control room cheering at their personal screens I suppose, and I doubt they're cheering as those in SpX do, or even just claps as with ESA), but if they launch anything in the future, be it a new Shenzou, or another probe, or another new launch vehicle, would you be willing to share it with us ? Thanks for sharing the weibo ! I will, if I have time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
050644zf Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 (edited) Photo captured by Chang'e-4. Yutu-2 now start his journey! Edited January 3, 2019 by 050644zf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperFastJellyfish Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 2 hours ago, 050644zf said: Photo captured by Chang'e-4. Yutu-2 now start his journey! I ran out of likes for the day. Thank you for posting these pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mikegarrison Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 1 hour ago, NSEP said: This sort of anthropomorphism using cute characters seems particularly Asian (especially Japanese, but also seen in China and Korea). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moe_anthropomorphism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSEP Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 11 minutes ago, mikegarrison said: This sort of anthropomorphism using cute characters seems particularly Asian (especially Japanese, but also seen in China and Korea). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moe_anthropomorphism The rest of the Spaceflight community seems to have adopted in the past few years. Especially ESA, JAXA, and CNSA, im not sure about Roscosmos, NASA, and ISRO though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
050644zf Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 While I'm still waiting for the photo from Yutu-2, the development team of camera on the Relay Satellite Queqiao from Zhejiang University released some photo taken from Queqiao at L2 by its Double Resolution Camera. Introducing the Double Resolution Camera on Queqiao developed by Zhejiang Univeristy, which can capture two photos with different resolution at once. A wide-angle photo, you can see the satellite itself, the earth and moon. A close-up shot of moon. Finally, here is a group shot of earth-moon system taken at L2 on July 14,2018. The team is going to do some improvement of camera in the second half of 2019. Source:Zhejiang University BTW, according to the latest TV news, the estimated life of Queqiao will be up to 10 years, thanks to the improvement of usage of propellant. So it will support more lunar exploration mission in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
050644zf Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 (edited) New photo from Chang'e-4 shows that Yutu has driven away. To overcome the high temperature environment on the moon, Yutu-2 will "fall asleep" until Jan 10. As for Chang'e-4, three 5 meter antennas ,as part of the Netherlands-China Low-Frequency Explorer (NCLE), have deployed. And the Lunar Lander Neutrons and Dosimetry (LND), a neutron dosimeter developed by Kiel University in Germany, was boot up and started testing. Edited January 4, 2019 by 050644zf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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magnemoe Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, 050644zf said: New photo from Chang'e-4 shows that Yutu has driven away. To overcome the high temperature environment on the moon, Yutu-2 will "fall asleep" until Jan 10. As for Chang'e-4, three 5 meter antennas ,as part of the Netherlands-China Low-Frequency Explorer (NCLE), have deployed. And the Lunar Lander Neutrons and Dosimetry (LND), a neutron dosimeter developed by Kiel University in Germany, was boot up and started testing. Why temperature issues? Assumed moon had two settings, grill or cryogenic and no power to solar cells? On the other hand China tend to top load rovers on probes. It has worked twice. Think Soviet did with their lunar rovers, US tend to go for skycranes. Also tend to be an better idea in KSP because of parts. But with the new foldable wheels you could probably do top loaded. Edited January 4, 2019 by magnemoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaverickSawyer Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 14 minutes ago, magnemoe said: Why temperature issues? Assumed moon had two settings, grill or cryogenic and no power to solar cells? It's getting close to noon at that location, if I'm understanding things correctly, and that's the point at which it's hardest to reject heat from the rover's systems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinimumSky5 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 At midday on the Moon, temperatures can easily top 140C, and it lasts something like 60 hours. There's no atmosphere there, so rejecting heat is a serious issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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