virtual Project Mercury

[NSEP]

14 minutes ago, PB666 said:

Sure, why not just bring  a trillion tons of carbon into venusian atmosphere to build the tower of babel, how well will that all go down.

Can't you pull out carbon from the Venusian atmosphere? Not saying that building a giant pyramid is a good idea.

[PB666]

how easy is it to start that building process at 17km up where the temperature can carbonize an egg (if the acid does not dissolve it first).

Easier, build a giant space film 50,000km in diameter, go place it at venusian L1. As the temperature drops the SO4 will begin to fall out leaving mostly CO2 and nitrogen, on the night side of the planet the air will cool and CO2 will sublimate and fall out. Of course if you have done all that you can use the same film at L1 to allow you to live on the surface . . . lol.

These are dreams of future futurism, at current these are all space fantasies, nothing more.

 

[DAL59]

7 hours ago, PB666 said:

how easy is it to start that building process at 17km up where the temperature can carbonize an egg (if the acid does not dissolve it first).

Easier, build a giant space film 50,000km in diameter, go place it at venusian L1. As the temperature drops the SO4 will begin to fall out leaving mostly CO2 and nitrogen, on the night side of the planet the air will cool and CO2 will sublimate and fall out. Of course if you have done all that you can use the same film at L1 to allow you to live on the surface . . . lol.

These are dreams of future futurism, at current these are all space fantasies, nothing more.

 

I never said you need to do that.  You can just build blimps in the upper atmosphere.  No need for gigantic pyramids.  

[PB666]

7 hours ago, DAL59 said:

I never said you need to do that.  You can just build blimps in the upper atmosphere.  No need for gigantic pyramids.  

Not everything is about you.

[kerbiloid]

(I just believe that blimp cities would finally take more efforts than building a pyramide.)

[PB666]

So my attempted landing on Mercury went well until I landed, lol . . . . . . .

Couple of problems now in the virtual journey. First we need to map (flag/satellite) a landing site. The lander ran out of fuel meters above landing site, survived the landing but then fell over on the steep terrain. Broke off the solar panel (which was useless because site was sunblocked) and broke off one of four engines (useless because there is no fuel). Poor Val.

Here is the basic problem, the great  place to land and get water (I nailed it) is actually a terrible place to land (you can't see . . . .) and its far from the source of power.

So this informs our mercurian travel. We need to take down a rover, filled with wire and some solar panels that can be layed out. And the rover needs to be positioned before. This means our  mercurial colony needs a robot.

The craft lands at a great spot for harvesting the sun all the (weird) mercurial year, once he establishes an energy site the robot needs carry/unwind the cable back to the where the future landing site is going to be.

See other thread. We want to use high tension wire and a step-up transformer to generate the voltage we need to because P = I^2*R and since the power may need to travel a couple of kilometers and we are not going to be using superconductors we need the amperage to be as low as possible. Thus in the colonization area we need a step-down transformer.

So our mercurial landing needs to be the following.
1st a remote controlled lander that can flag a good solar collection site (and prepare that site if necessary but can also find a good colony site.
2 a remote controlled builder that can establish a solar array and take the wire down to base. We do not need Megawatts of power, 10 to 50 kW should meet all the needs of the colony.

Also need to start thinking about a Mercurial launch vehicle for buildings. My lander at LMercO was 60T (40 times that of my satellite).[The apollo 11 lander was 20 ish) To get a 60T vehicle to mercury means I need a launch vehicle of 27.24 K tons.
Thats not the bad part (see your favorite launch vehicle), I have no way of building an end Transfer ION powered spacecraft that inserts a 60T payload into Mercurial orbit.