Gelled propellant components

[DDE]

Jeez, I've tried to load a bunch of giant quotes from Sutton and Clarke into the header, and instead the page just gobbled up the whole edit.

But getting back into Clarke has been quite... disillusioning. Turns out aluminum really resists NTO combustion, and only works well with fluorine-based oxidizers.

[kerbiloid]

1 hour ago, DDE said:

Turns out aluminum really resists NTO combustion, and only works well with fluorine-based oxidizers.

An hydrazine + liquid fluorine rocket with several nukes is exactly what one must have to TROLL the greenpeace.

Edited February 10, 2018 by kerbiloid

[magnemoe]

8 hours ago, YNM said:

They're among ones that needs to be so. You can't have liquid food, they'd be drinks 

Soup is liquid meals. 
You also has sauces and gravy. 
But yes food industry uses lots of gels and pastes to and probably has more experience than most. 

Think main issue is burning it, everything we burn on an scale larger than wood stoves is gas, liquid or powder/ grains. (exception is waste disposal but here the energy is an nice bonus getting rid of waste is primary)
 

[YNM]

24 minutes ago, magnemoe said:

Soup is liquid meals. 
You also has sauces and gravy. 

They're nearly gels (you know about "pouring" them off bottles XD)

 

Anyway, back on gel propellants...

6 hours ago, kerbiloid said:

An hydrazine + liquid fluorine rocket with several nukes is exactly what one must have to TROLL the greenpeace.

Well, I guess a way to TROLL greenpeace would be launching NTO/UDMH rocket off Svalbard or so 

[DDE]

16 hours ago, kerbiloid said:

An hydrazine + liquid fluorine rocket with several nukes is exactly what one must have to TROLL the greenpeace.

Careful, now you might tell me the Soviet Union had its own chlorine pentafluoride program in addition to Energomash RD-301...

Oh, someone on Novosti Kosmonavtiki is at it already! http://novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/forum13/topic10362/?PAGEN_1=2

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РД-503 (4Д75М)

Компоненты топлива окисл./гор.........Пентафторид хлора/АГ-25
Тяга, тс з/п.......................................80/85
Уд. импульс, с з/п.............................305/325
Давление в КС, кгс/см2.....................220
Масса, кг, сух./залитого.....................-/820
Габариты, мм, высота/диаметр............2728/1800
Годы разработки................................1970
Назначение........................................Проект для 1 ст. 4К75М

They were going to put a pentafluoride-ammonia-hydrazine motor onto the first stage of an upgraded R-29 SLBM... the nutters... Interestingly, they didn't get a higher ISP with it (per Glushko himself), so they canned the whole thing.

At which point the forum descended into finishing their bootleg translation of Ignition! 

Edited February 11, 2018 by DDE