KSP 1.4.1 Performance

[sarbian]

28 minutes ago, Lisias said:

In the beginning of time, when ANSI C compilers were a lot dumber

Yes but we are talking about C# here. I asked for this specific case, not an history lesson on C. I was around back then and yet I did not bring bad coding practice just for old time sake.

 

[Lisias]

4 minutes ago, sarbian said:

Yes but we are talking about C# here. I asked for this specific case, not an history lesson on C. I was around back then and yet I did not bring bad coding practice just for old time sake.

And I explained why this is not needed nowadays, even on C#.

This is a public forum, you're not the only one reading. I tried to explain the issue in terms that everybody would understand, and not only you - to tell the true, I'm pretty sure that you are the one that can explain a lot of things to me, and not vice versa. :-)

I saw your interjection as a rhetoric, in the meaning "this is nuts". Experienced people like us would understand it promptly, because we have the technical and historical knowledge of the thing. Younger people rarely have the historic, and contextualization is a good way to help remembering things.

In time, this was not bad coding practice in the time. It was bad not to do it. It's a anti-pattern now, but not then. And this make a lot of difference: it's a lot easier to convince someone that he's only need to update this knowledge a bit, instead of saying "you are nuts" and that's it. :-)

And, by the way, there's a lot of old time coders around that did such coding in the past but are not professional developers since long time. They're also reading this.

[1990eam]

On 3/25/2018 at 9:11 AM, Warezcrawler said:

I have throughout KSP history ever since 1.0 had a performance issue in KSP. While performance on 1.4.1 is much better than it has been I still experience one specific thing which I think is related to a mod, but I have been unable to isolate the mod.

Every few seconds it's like the game freezes for just an instant and then continuing - making the experience just a little less smooth than I could wish for. As stated I think it's one of my mods, since I have not recreated it in KSP unmodded.

So my quetion to you (the community) is, does anyone else experience this, and have anybody been successful in isolating the mod causing it?

I remember having this issue at least since 1.1, and I do think it is because I keep installing many of the same mods.

My mod/dll list from my KSP log. I have highlighted some of the .dll's which I seem to recall having back in the day as well, however it is a little foggy.

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Environment Info
Win32NT 7FFFFFFFFFFFFFFF  Args: KSP_x64.exe 

Mod DLLs found:
Stock assembly: Assembly-CSharp v0.0.0.0
ModuleManager v3.0.6.0
MiniAVC v1.0.3.2
aaa_Toolbar v1.7.17.4
MiniAVC v1.0.3.2
USITools v1.0.0.0
MiniAVC v1.0.3.2
ToolbarControl v0.1.5.6 / v1.0.0.0
B9_Aerospace_WingStuff v1.0.0.0
MiniAVC v1.0.3.2
BetterTimeWarp v2.3.10.0
BonVoyage v0.13.2.1
Chatterer v0.9.94.2077
MiniAVC v1.0.3.2
MiniAVC v1.0.3.2
ClickThroughBlocker v0.1.6.0 / v1.0.0.0
CommNetVisualisation v1.0.0.0 / v1.0.2
CCK v2.0.2.0 / v2.0.2.0 for KSP 1.3
ContractConfigurator v1.0.0.0 / v1.24.0
MiniAVC v1.0.3.2
AGExt v2.3.3.0 / v1.0.0.0
TWR1 v1.0.0.0
DMagic v1.3.0.12 / vv1.3.12
ProgressParser v1.0.9.0 / vv9.0
ContractParser v1.0.8.0 / vv8.0
CapCom v1.0.2.8 / vv2.8
ContractsWindow v1.0.8.2 / vv8.2
ContractsWindow.Unity v1.0.8.2
MiniAVC v1.0.3.2
EditorExtensionsRedux v3.3.19.2
Atmosphere v1.4.0.1
CelestialShadows v1.4.0.1
CityLights v1.4.0.1
EVEManager v1.4.0.1
PartFX v1.4.0.1
PQSManager v1.4.0.1
ShaderLoader v1.4.0.1
Terrain v1.4.0.1
TextureConfig v1.4.0.1
Utils v1.4.0.1
_BuildManager v1.4.0.1
Firespitter v7.3.6652.37613
FlexoTubes v1.0.6.0 / v6.0
GTI_MultiModeConverter v2.6.0.0
GTI_MultiModeEngine v2.6.0.0
GTI_MultiModeHarvester v2.6.0.0
GTI_MultiModeIntake v2.6.0.0
GTI_Utilities v2.6.0.0
InterstellarFuelSwitch v2.11.1.0 / v2.11.1
MiniAVC v1.0.3.2
Scale_Redist v1.0.0.0
KAS v0.6.4.0 / v0.6.4 for KSP 1.4+
MiniAVC v1.0.3.1
KerbalEngineer v1.1.4.3
KerbalEngineer.Unity v1.0.0.0
KIS v1.10.6640.40620 / v1.10 for KSP 1.4
KSPDev_Utils.0.31 v0.31.6640.37756 / v0.31 for KSP v1.4
MiniAVC v1.0.3.0
MechJeb2 v2.5.1.0 / v / v2.7.1.0
MiniAVC v1.0.3.2
NavHud v1.3.5.0
MiniAVC v1.0.3.2
PreciseNode v1.2.9.0 / v1.2.4.0
ProjectManager v1.0.0.0
ProgressiveCBMaps v0.1.25.0
ResearchBodies v1.9.7.0
SCANsat v1.8.5.0 / vv18.5
SCANmechjeb v1.8.5.0 / vv18.5
SCANsat.Unity v1.8.5.0
CLSInterfaces v1.2.0.0
ShipManifest v5.2.1.0
SmokeScreen v2.8.0.0
Stock assembly: KSPSteamCtrlr v0.0.1.35
Stock assembly: Steamworks.NET v9.0.0.0 / v9.0.0
MiniAVC v1.0.3.2
TarsierSpaceTech v7.3.0.0
BetterTracking v1.0.2.0 / v2.0
BetterTracking.Unity v1.0.2.0
KerbalAlarmClock v3.9.0.0
TransferWindowPlanner v1.6.3.0
DynamicTanks v1.0.0.0
Konstruction v0.0.0.0
MiniAVC v1.0.3.2
MiniAVC v1.0.3.0
[x] Science! v5.13.6649.40338

Folders and files in GameData:
000_Toolbar
000_USITools
001_ToolbarControl
B9_Aerospace_ProceduralWings
BetterTimeWarp
BonVoyage
Chatterer
ClickThroughBlocker
CommNetVisualisation
CommunityCategoryKit
CommunityResourcePack
ContractConfigurator
ContractPacks
CrowdSourcedScience
Diazo
DMagicOrbitalScience
DMagicUtilities
EditorExtensionsRedux
EnvironmentalVisualEnhancements
Firespitter
FlexoDocking
GTIndustries
GTI_SimpleEPL
GTI_SimpleKarbonite
GTI_Utilities
InterstellarFuelSwitch
JoolBiomes
KAS
KerbalEngineer
Kerbalow
KIS
LETech
MechJeb2
Mk2Expansion
Mk3Expansion
ModRocketSys
NavHud
NearFutureProps
PreciseNode
ProjectManager
REPOSoftTech
SCANsat
ShipManifest
SmokeScreen
Solaris Hypernautics
SpaceY-Lifters
Stock folder: Squad

Stock folder: SquadExpansion

StationPartsExpansion
StockVisualEnhancements
TarsierSpaceTech
TrackingStationEvolved
TriggerTech
UmbraSpaceIndustries
UniversalStorage
[x] Science!
ModuleManager.3.0.6.dll
ModuleManager.ConfigCache
ModuleManager.ConfigSHA
ModuleManager.Physics
ModuleManager.TechTree
toolbar-settings.dat

Does anyone have a clue.

PS: I have tried installing them one by one, and somehow I missed when the problem started... Might be it is a combination thing.

Since 1.4.x my game freezes from time to time for like a milisecond. I've noticed through X Science (not sure if it's specifically this mod causing it) that when I switch from one area to another and a new science opportunity is available (providing you have the science tech required onboard).

Like I said I'm not sure it's X Science related but I do know each time it freezes like that then a new science experiment will pop up in the X Science window to perform.

[Warezcrawler]

14 hours ago, 1990eam said:

Since 1.4.x my game freezes from time to time for like a milisecond. I've noticed through X Science (not sure if it's specifically this mod causing it) that when I switch from one area to another and a new science opportunity is available (providing you have the science tech required onboard).

Like I said I'm not sure it's X Science related but I do know each time it freezes like that then a new science experiment will pop up in the X Science window to perform.

Thanks for your response.

X-Science does produce stutter on biome change. However, there is an unofficial build on the x-science thread which does reduce that stutter.

However, the biggest stutter problem in KSP comes from the garbage collector which runs from time to time. Some mods produce a lot of garbage.... It can be hard to identify exactly which ones though.

Stutter from X-Science is not (primarily) related to garbage, but rather heavy updates, not all of which are necessary all the time.