Rational Resources 3.0.2 [Sep 24, 2024]

[Steigleder]

Hi,

Here's a warning for those of you who use RSS/RO/Real Fuels

I installed the mod RR RCS Family and all my RCS were stopped working, and I could only use liquid nitrogen because it was the only compatible fuel.

[moyashii]

I'm having a problem when the Companion module is enabled. It somehow breaks proc fuel tanks completely, and they hold no fuel or resources other than the ones added by the mod. 

[JadeOfMaar]

Hi @moyashii. Have you tried deleting GameData\RationalResourcesCompanion\CRPDefault\ProceduralTanks.cfg or the patch from other mods (namely CryoTanks) that may also affect proc tanks? My config should be error-free. It definitely doesn't try to subtract anything (which would be an easy cause of problems). If there's a mod other than CryoTanks that affects proc tanks then I'll need to know in order to troubleshoot it.

[moyashii]

6 hours ago, JadeOfMaar said:

Hi @moyashii. Have you tried deleting GameData\RationalResourcesCompanion\CRPDefault\ProceduralTanks.cfg or the patch from other mods (namely CryoTanks) that may also affect proc tanks? My config should be error-free. It definitely doesn't try to subtract anything (which would be an easy cause of problems). If there's a mod other than CryoTanks that affects proc tanks then I'll need to know in order to troubleshoot it.

Yeah, I eventually figured that out on my own after a couple painful hours of troubleshooting, lol (install takes forever to boot up with all the mods I have). I'm not really sure what in the .cfg is conflicting/causing it to happen, very weird. I do have 200+ mods installed, though. So I can't really expect smooth sailing.

EDIT: Here's the modlist, if you're interested. Maybe it's an easy spot if you're aware of any compatibility issues off the bat. 
https://pastebin.com/nAXm9LH4

Edited November 21, 2024 by moyashii

[Mitokandria]

On 9/21/2020 at 10:55 AM, EimajOzear said:

While this is relevant, I can't find any tanks which allow me to store any of the Lqd______ resources. I have CRP and B9 Part Switch installed.

Edit: Except for LqdHydrogen of course (due to having CryoEngines installed)

Edit 2: So the CryoTanks show up in the RR fuel tanks category, but are not configurable (in-game) to contain LqdNitrogen, LqdCO2, etc.

The RR Bread tanks are there but I would prefer cylindrical tanks to contain LqdNitrogen (and the others) - how would I go about configuring them to allow this?

 

On 9/21/2020 at 12:50 PM, JadeOfMaar said:

@EimajOzear Add Extras/RR_TankSwitchForSquad.cfg to your GameData, and have RationalResourcesParts installed if you don't already. This will enable all squad tanks and the CryoTanks to hold LqdXXX.

Is this still the case? I can't add RR_TankSwitchForSquad.cfg because of RealFuels. RR Parts extra seems to work, but I don't understand why RealFuels doesn't have LqdNitrogen for any of the tanks (I understand that part is a RealFuels issue/question).

Edit: Is there a way to harvest Nitrogen without Kerbalism?

Edited December 7, 2024 by Mitokandria
Extra question about Nitrogen

[StarDagger]

First off: O Glorious Jade!  Thank you for your amazing contributions to the modding community!  Your Sterling mods are mentioned any time someone asks about "Whut mods should I get?"

My question is this, is there a complete list of all the planet packs/celestial addition mod/etc that this hooks into, I have OPM (covered) and Minor Planets expansion.  My concern is this, going to various black hole systems and other planet packs, to be faced with just low ore blank templates. 

*Bows respectfully*

Yours in modding Plasma,

Star*Dagger

[JadeOfMaar]

On 12/1/2024 at 10:08 PM, Mitokandria said:

 

Is this still the case? I can't add RR_TankSwitchForSquad.cfg because of RealFuels. RR Parts extra seems to work, but I don't understand why RealFuels doesn't have LqdNitrogen for any of the tanks (I understand that part is a RealFuels issue/question).

Edit: Is there a way to harvest Nitrogen without Kerbalism?

Yes. RR Squad still fully works as intended. I had confirmed that but didn't post because I intended to test the RealFuels thing and report on that.

RealFuels doesn't concern itself with nuclear propulsion afaik and LqdNitrogen is among the poorest propellant choices for Isp. With all stock-ish nuke engine mods inheriting the weaknesses of the stock NERV no one is going to dare make LN2 an option.

Harvesting Nitrogen without Kerbalism is very much provided by RR Parts. The MISPLACED series ram intakes have you covered.

On 12/22/2024 at 11:17 PM, StarDagger said:

First off: O Glorious Jade!  Thank you for your amazing contributions to the modding community!  Your Sterling mods are mentioned any time someone asks about "Whut mods should I get?"

My question is this, is there a complete list of all the planet packs/celestial addition mod/etc that this hooks into, I have OPM (covered) and Minor Planets expansion.  My concern is this, going to various black hole systems and other planet packs, to be faced with just low ore blank templates. 

*Bows respectfully*

Yours in modding Plasma,

Star*Dagger

"Glorious?" Nah. I'm by no stretch a majestic being.

There is no such list but all planet packs that this mod contains support for have files and folders prefixed with "Pack_" within GameData/RationalResources/Deployment/ . Kcalbeloh is the only planet pack I know of which is RR-compatible but holds the configs for itself.